Ariane Valmont

Narman, sorry things didn't work out for you guys but at least, it turned into what seems like a great friendship. Your experience is quite interesting but there is a big difference between dating an SP and wanting to date SPs in general. ;)

Narman, some women definitely hope to date a Doctor or a lawyer, etc. But the key word is "hope". In the vast majority, I don't think they go looking specifically for that. Or at least, I hope not because it would be so shallow. T'storm, those are certainly questions that an SP has to ask herself before getting involved with someone. I know that personaly, I could not deal with being in the sex trade while I would be in love.

Well, I certainly try to be all of those things. :) As for the rest of your post, I agree with everything you said. You have convinced me: if, at first, someone in my personal life is interested in me because I am an SP, I will give them the benefit of the doubt. ;)

etasman, you make some very good points. But wouldn't you say that if someone actually believed SPs are necessarily understanding, caring and good sex partners, they would be very naive? And they would probably set themselves up for a disappointment because SPs are just like any women, some of them do have those qualities but others don't. Don't get me wrong, I much prefer someone who generalize by thinking SPs are wonderful human beings than people who say the contrary. ;) ... I would still prefer to attract men for me than because of my occupation. That being said, of course, what you do in life IS part of who you are since you have made that choice based on your values and aspirations. But only a small part. In my personal life, when I meet men, I usually don't tell them right away that I am an escort, especially because I don't want them to have preconceived ideas (whether positive or negative) about who I am. If I were to meet someone who wants to date me mainly because I am an SP, I would tend to run away because I would feel this person wants to be with me for the wrong reasons.

emma, I am sure it does happen. I think you can find love (or love can find you) in any situation, at any time of your life. That's the beauty of it! etasman, well, I can understand if it is a fantasy. But dating is not just about sex, there is an emotional aspect to it. To me, it seems wrong to be interested in someone because of what they do rather than who they are as a person. But hey, I am a romantic so... ;)

Great initiative! :)

I personally would not trust someone who is specifically looking to date an SP. First, it seems weird to me to pick someone mainly because of their work, whatever that work may be. Second, dating an SP can be quite difficult (obviously, it's not easy to share the woman you love) so I can't really understand why someone would be looking on purpose to go through that. Now, if you fall in love with an SP by coincidence, that is a whole other story.

I second that! :grin: Come on Athana, share your new kinky discovery with us. ;)

Absolutely. Although we, the women and men involved in some way in this business, did not learn much, the documentary was certainly very information for people who do not know the sex trade. And even if I already knew most of what was said, I still enjoyed watching "The Business of Sex" because in a way, it made me feel less isolated. I think that being an escort (or being a client) can be very lonely at times. You try to keep a positive view on things but with society constantly sending you the message that what you are doing is wrong, it can be difficult to remain strong and convinced of your perspective. Listening to all those people (providers, hobbyists, lawyers) explaning how the sex trade can be healthy and should indeed have a place in today's society was reassuring to me.

I don't agree with you. :) I thought it was very interesting. And for once, it was nice to see an objective analysis of the sex trade.

Nice thread! :-o I have phases. I can do it twice a day or once a week. It all depends how my sex drive is doing!

No children yet and I don't plan on having any before the end of my thirties. You can say I am a late bloomer. ;)

I am indeed relatively new. But what I meant (and maybe I wasn't clear - sorry for the limited English!) is that I am not GFE to obey any sort of "norm" and I never was. When I started working as an escort, I had never been in contact with the business, never knew anyone in the sex trade. All I had was my common sense, my own goals (which was to have fun + make money) and a vague idea of how things worked because of what I had read on the Internet. So I didn't know if you were supposed to be GFE or not. I don't think I even know what GFE was at that point! Which means I didn't feel any pressure to offer a specific kind of services. I just did what seemed right according to me.

buggernot, I can't tell you how things were 10-20 years ago since I have been in and out of the sex trade only for two years and a half. One thing I can tell you though is that some of us are definitely GFE by choice and not by obligation. When I meet a client, I want to enjoy myself too. Kissing, oral, etc, it is all part of what good sex is, isn't it? As a courtesan, I want to feel just as much as my partner that I am on a date, not a business transaction. Yes, there is money involved but once that is taken care of at the beginning of the rendezvous, what I am looking for is to connect with my partner and make sure we simply go with the flow. When that's your goal, GFE just seems natural.

My pleasure. ;) If you have not tried it yet, you should! hihi

Yes, Daniel Day Lewis is amazing. My favourite movie with him is In the name of the father. It's very moving and thought-provoking. Two very good quotes from this film : (DDL plays Gerry and Pete Postlethewaite plays Giuseppe, his father) Giuseppe Conlon: I want you to have some respect. Gerry Conlon: Respect for who? Giuseppe Conlon: For yourself. Gerry Conlon: Was I always bad, was I? Giuseppe Conlon: Not always. Gerry Conlon: I don't deserve to spend the rest of my life in here do I? Giuseppe Conlon: All they done was block out the light. [points to his head] Giuseppe Conlon: They can't block out the light in here.

Is it possible that THE line from There will be blood was not brought up?? :) Ok, I'll admit that you have to see the movie to really appreciate this one but still, it's great. Daniel Day Lewis delivers it so well : "If you have a milkshake and I have a milkshake and I have a straw and my straw reaches across the room and starts to drink your milkshake. I drink your milkshake! I drink it up!"

Last summer, I met a gentleman who wanted to experience some role play. I had never done this before but since I love trying new things and had a good vibe from him, I said yes! He asked me to play the sweet and shy secretary who is about to lose her job unless she does everything her nasty boss tells her to do... So poor little me, what other choice did I have than obey to every dirty, kinky demand he had? ;) My partner happened to have great acting skills and I really got into it! I was super turned on and to this day, this remains one of my sexiest encounter.