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I don't believe in Ghosts, I think once you Die your Soul, Mind and Spirit go to Heaven or Hell Case closed. No purgatory. (Just basing this on scripture) But I believe that demons do exist, and are around us at all times and they know us and everything about our lives. When ppl have hauntings, its most likely a demon pretending to be a loved one. Reason for this is to confuse you and send you down the wrong path. This is my theory and explaination for chanellers and true psychics as well. I think that many people are able to be more open to certain things, but their abilities or "gifts" if you will, are not of God. I know I know, probably a little too deep for cerb forum.. LOL

Thanks for the glowning Recomendation on Katrina.. She is really amazing for sure.. Im sure we will be hearing alot about her in the next while

Kegals Kegals Kegals! LOL

There have been some problems lately with LE and Security staff at that hotel.. We stopped working there because of that.

I agree. And just to add to that point. There are many ladies that are afraid to go to the police about a pimp that is forcing them to work in this industry for fear of getting into legal trouble. Now they would be able to and not have to sweat it at all. And for agencies that are playing by the rules, they would have less to worry about. They would never have to worry about ladies that could use the law to extort agencies by threatening to try and get them busted to gain leverage. (this can be a problem that happens from time to time). One question.. Does anyone know if all of the parts of the section 212 was scheduled to be removed as something I havent heard much about was the subsection involving exercising direction and control and the procuring.

We have always been offering Incall it represents about 95 percent of our business..

As of yesterday's ruling. What kind of changes are actually in place as we speak? I really think it is an awesome step in the right direction, but does it now open the door to a new law to pass that might be even more prohibitive to our industry? I also think that if this is going to sit well with the public at large, there has to be some effort on our part (ppl in the sex industry) in some way to assure the average individual that this isnt going to affect their lives or society in a negative manner so that there won;t be a huge uproar that will come back to bite us in the ass.

Well if it was self-promotion, it wouldnt be benefitting me much would it? LOL I like the idea of a classier look on advertisments. But at the moment its what the ladies want and its what is working for them. I'm not going to get into a debate about it with them. When things change in the market, and I can put classy back into the mainstream I most certainly will do that. Right now I am about to start on an Advertisement Campaign on EC, and of course that will be kept more upscale. And we can see if that might work better. And no I don't think this should be about agency.. v.s... Indy.. The market is better to have both. Give clients options and keeps the market strong. Whether you all agree with me or not, that is your opinion and I respect it. Respect mine too. The mainstream market isnt in the 300+ range, that is a fringe market. And a relatively exclusive market. If you can command a 300+ range more power to you.

Here's the position that I hold in this situation. I work for these ladies, so the ultimate decision is theirs how they wish to be represented. Its not that I am trying to absolve responsibility, its that you are not used to having an agency actually BEING an agency and not an employer. The minute I start controlling the ladies and telling them what to do it becomes a different ball-game. And I don't play that way. Now if I am being honest, the advertising that is being used IS actually very effective. I may not totally agree with the methods, but the end result is there. They are busy and making very good money. If things were to change, and CL was to close the erotic section they would be forced to change their methods. And it would clean up the market dramatically. Remember a few years back before CL was being used. Newspaper ads were tame and it had a different level of class attached to things.

I actually agree with what you are saying. What you have to realize in our advertising.. What is being written is what the ladies that work with us want us to write. The ladies that work with us are almost independants. So as their agents, not their employers I am doing what they ask. If it was up to me, I would keep it much more classy and subdued. What is happening in the CL world is that everyone is trying to one-up each other and the ladies that are working with us are following suit. I actually wish they would shut down CL and keep things more classy and upscale. And have paid advertising on EC and moderated advertising on places like Cerb.

Amelia, I am happy you can get that price I honestly am. My business is great, this wasnt a a rant about my business at all. . I can assure you we are happy with where we are business wise. Not sure if you actually read my posts but it had to do with Visiting SPs that were complaining they DIDN;T do well. I merely suggested it might of had something to do with the rates. And the avg rate range in Ottawa. I get this feeling like the Indies in this thread aren;t happy that this subject is even talked about. But why is it so touchy? You choose what you want to charge, and its not something you should be shy about. We are all in business here. Our service is different than your service. And the market is big enough for all of us. Hey if you guys could charge 1000 an hr and get it, I would be all for it. Honestly I would think that would be great for you.

I will say this only one time, this has nothing to do with a shameless self promo.. I was stating a fact that the avg hourly rate that the vast majority of ladies charge is below 300 dollars. Whether they are touring girls or not and whether they have extra costs incurred or not isnt really relevant to many clients. (not saying it isnt valid to the ladies, because it is) Something Annessa, and others have to realize is we take an enormous amount of phone calls a day because we represent many ppl so I get to speak to alot of different types of clientel. We dont advertise our rates on purpose so that we get everyone calling and we screen from that point. The wealthy, no so wealthy and everyone in between. I talk to hundreds of ppl a day, and I can only imagine the very small market share a lady charging 300+ an hr would have. Ottawa isnt Calgary. The market isnt the same at all, and my point in all of this was I have noticed many western escorts coming to town that have higher expectations than I think they will accomplish based on what I have experienced. Another thing that I keep seeing is ladies comparing themselves to a fine wine, or an expensive pair of sunglasses or a 5 star restaurant. You are People, not a luxury Item. And that is objectifying yourself and I don;t believe in that. And by doing that you are also comparing yourself to others that may charge less and it devalues their service which I dont think is right either. There are many ladies charging 200 an hour or even less that can give equal or better service than someone charging much more. And this is MY point of view. Its not a dig at any ladies. Its not saying we or any other agency sets the price standards. Its Not saying you aren't worth it. I honestly think you all are worth more than you are charging. I was stating an observation from my point of view. And its coming from a different angle than an Independants but its not more or less valid than yours.

Well as long as its done in a respectful way, which so far I think it is.. whats the harm in having a lively and slightly controversial thread? It was sort of meant as a mini rant. I do respect the ladies in this city and on this board very much. I hope that this much isnt miscommunicated. Posted via Mobile Device

Posted via Mobile Device Additional Comments: I think everyone in this thread has a valid point of view and is showing respect for the ladies. They have alot to put up with sometimes and it can be an expensive business to work in. I just wanted to share my experience in the Ottawa market. And I think that the ladies deserve to make even more than the current market will bear. I do get clients haggling on prices and I end up hanging up on them. Posted via Mobile Device

And This is what I was trying to say here. I do agree ladies can and do charge what they want. Just to clarify, I never said 300+ an hour is out of line, (by no means do I believe that at all) but it is above average in Ottawa. And maybe again to clarify, by saying keeping the flow steady, I meant to keep you as busy as you want to be. (Isnt that how all business' work?) I guess my point is Ottawa is becoming an increasingly competitive place to do business and I get alot of ladies wanting to work with us that are from out of town. When I tell them the avg price in Ottawa alot of them get a bit freaked out. And I do understand there are costs incurred for doing business out of town, but at the same time hotels do cost the same for a lady that lives in town too. The difference is the cost of travel I suppose. Again, this wasnt to step on anybodys toes. To be honest I think the average cost of service in Ottawa is actually on the Low side. My question I am submitting here is what price can the Ottawa market handle? I hope I am not rustling any feathers here, I think its good to have this kind of dialogue to all clients and SPs talk about this, as its good info to have on both ends. At the end of the day, we all want to be happy. SPs want to earn a good living, and clients want to feel good about things on their end.

So I have had this come up fairly often when ladies come into Ottawa from Out of Town. Especially from the Western provinces. Often their expectations on rates and services expected seem a bit off from my experience in the Ottawa market. I have found that Ottawa is a very competitive market and many ladies from the west come in expecting 300+ and hour. When I explain to them its above the average here in Ottawa they get offended. Here's my point, I think that ladies have the right to charge whatever they want. But the business is what it is, and there are many great ladies in Ottawa that offer amazing services at very reasonable rates. The market is what it is, we try to keep our rates reasonable and keep the flow of business steady. The long term business is what this is all about. And I think some SPs lose track of that. Just wanted some feedback.. Jason

This link to a Reco should be included in her thread.. Its shows that her service has always been outstanding. http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=3241

Thanks for sorting things out Seymour, what a coincidence that both Katrinas would choose Nikki as their new names.. LOL But at least now "our" Katrina is back to Katrina and T2T is still Nikki.. No more confusion.. :)

Great well written review!

Angelina is for sure a great time had. Many guys had commented they loved her, when she worked with us.

I think the blonde on her looks great.. Again, Like Alex/vayda a great east coast girl!

I will Vouch for her and say she really is a great girl.. No questions!

100% not the Brianna that works with us occasionally..

The Ramada in Hull has nice fireplace and Jacuzzi in every room.. If you want to go more high end, the Hilton has some pretty sweet er...suites..LOL especially on the 17th floor and up.. AS well there is the swiss inn gasthouse downtown has theme rooms.. And the brookstreet Hotel in Kanata has a fairly nice Presidental suite which again has a rockin look to it..

I think the reasons to go wherever has to do with the expectations and the experience that the client is looking for. MP is someone who is, (or should be) skilled in massage. Physical stress relief and tension. The happy ending is the end of the journey, but its about the experience as a whole not just getting off. With an Escort, many times its mainly about the release.. Much less likely the SP is as skilled in massage as its not her field of expertise. However the options are much more for the actual sexual part of the encounter. This isnt to say that Sps cant give an amazing massage or an MP cant give a wicked BJ.. Its just not each other usual strong suit. All of this said, Both can be amazing experiences and really depend on the mood of the individual. Sometimes I'm in the mood for Italian, sometimes Steak.