Annessa

I think you're confusing my opinion as an attack on *your* writting style. You certainly have written a very god reco of me without having to get too much into detail so I'm confudes as to why you would think I lack appreciation of your recos or anyone's for that matter. when a gent asks if he can write a reco I always give him permission but I say to leave the details of our encounter out. The graphic one you referred to on page three was actually on the third editing by my request....it used to be a lot more indiscreet and had a lot of back and forths of our private conversation, there were some definite worse graphic parts that I asked the posted to delete. He appologized and did so, maybe not entirely to my liking but I'm not going to control entirely how someone's review on me should go....but I will say that I did not entirely approve of the final posting and have comtemplated having deleted altogether as the clients that are going to book me based on a raunchily written recommendation are not exactly the type of men I want to attract.

i respect your opinion Erin, I just find that most of those recos sound boast-ful....and not really written with the interest of how another man may appreciate her, but rather detail his experience in a show-off-y kinda way. The initial reco has the member tick off services provided by the provider, some may not be included in following recos after the OP but I definitely stand by the fact that too heavy detail could lead to distaste for another curious member. For example i would never want a more conservaive client to hear about all my "wild happenings" with other men....I feel it takes away from any class i try to hold myself to....whether in the business of being erotic or not. I remember being part of Poly party and all members wanted to give a play by play of how the whole event went down in a joined-reco...I know that some mat not be comfortable with that image of me if they were more tame in their requests. There are many ways to convey how a girl made you feel without having to go into graphic detail as to what you did with her or what services she provided to you.

some food for thought: perhaps a gent giving his "thumbs up" to a girl and saying "what happend between us sexually will remain between us both" should translate as repsectful....not a shill. my goodness. If anything this doesnt put a man's reputation on the line for being discrete....quite the opposite. he is respecting an intimate encounter but willing to give his recommendation of that lady.....and the YMMV will always serve what may "creep you out" as being out of the writen picture For example, if you are looking for *exactly* what to expect and email a lady about her services offered, you will rarely receive an email back saying "well first we'll talk over wine, then when the energy gets too much for me, I'll throw my leg over you and whisper in your ear for you to fuck me, then...after that, I'll mount you and grind over your jeans and then begg you to take them off...then I'll rip your pants off and tease your penis-head until I give you the best blowjob you've ever...." wake the hell up! if you want detail, take the chance and book the girl. One man's experience may not be your own, especially if you want your experience played out to make sure you get the exact same treatment as the man before you....after your post I will warn that you might not get what you're looking for if you are too picky about how your experience may compare to other's. Your above-all chemistry will win over a lady....not saying "well i read in a recommendation that you did *this and that* for *so and so* and you both had a great time. YOU are not HIM and a reco should not tell you what kind of amazing bond you are going to have with that woman....thats up to you. It is definitely a two way street and not one based on a menu of services...Your Millage May Vary (YMMV). This website says "if you dont have anything nice to say, dont say it at all"...if you are worried about what to expect, rickoshadows, or are worried you might be "creeped out" in person, there is no harm in putting the big-boy pants on and asking the lady in question yourself. jus saying :roll:

woah...regular girls, versus 'scammer girls" are not to be confused....the subject is about people we see often and how important they are to us....not about being ripped off by flakes and learning a hard lesson. believe me, I have had my share of gents i deemed as 'regulars" who took advantage of me...many people know that while I *saw them regularily* (until the point the didnt't cough up the cash) that didnt land them in my books as trusted regulars. I think everyone needs to forget the money paid per X amount of days reference as being considered a 'regular'...if in the end you are a client who ripps off a gal or a girl who scams a guy it doesnt matter how often you see them........this is not a subject of quantity, yet one of quality. The true regulars are those that hobby with good intentions, not a false sense of security for writing an I.Owe.U. due to their "status" Lets get real here. This thread is titled "do regulars matter?"...NOT "how much do you feel wronged after being scammed?"

I completely feel for you situation. and much as "life happens" on our side, many gals definitely offer the promise to make it up to the gent...and follow through. I will be amazingly honest here...on the flipside i have had 6 same-day cancellations before last night...and two last night being the bulk. personally i find it disrespectful to cancel less that 24 hours in advance. i almways ask for a client to donate a small fee for a cancellation fee should he really feel remorse about cutting off a meeting. Many gentlemen have abidided sendinga $50 or so EMT to my email in remorse....the ones who were ready to book a 2-hour apt yet felt they weren't feeling well an hour before the call yet didnt't respond to the cancellation fee request......i will most likely not hear from them again. I had a morning client yesterday that cancelled (after making a confirmed date the night before) this morning say 'I just scheduled myself for too many meetings this morning...so I'm sorry i wont be able to fit you in after all" this client has made my telephone blacklist without even knowing so. I'd rather keep it that way. Very much the same I wonder about a girl who chooses to accept another gent and keep another waiting when she should be makig her appointment up to the initial gent...after reading your story i wonder if the gal in question was even expecting to actually hear from you again? I'm very sorry you had to play the waiting game...but i would not have done so myself, and rather implimented that if you had played her "waiting game" and were now subject to favouratism, that it wasn't fair and that you would not be promoting her business any furthur to anyone who asked....mainly to give the gentle notion that if she took her job seriously, she would treat her clients with more respect. emails amd phonecalls can be sent on both ends but if you are emailing mainly with a lady it is best if you find her working number and try to contact her on that basis...as many ladies will not always be at their computers on their off time. however if you have agreed on a certain time and she is not responding or bothering to check her work-messages or answer her phone, i would waive this girl off and know that there are many other gals out there that take their jobs seriously enough not to sent such a horrible first, second and third (etc...) impression of themselves in this industry. you are not an idiot....but I would have not given her so many chances...in the end, she treated your appointment in question as a back-burner-date for some reason and chose to see other clients before you...this is WRONG WRONG WRONG. A learning experience for you but still wrong on her end to take advantage. I wish you happy hunting from this point on and I hope this experience does not spoil you from encounters in the future. :-)

haha, I'd need a pretty large bucket beside me for all the hurling I'd have to do in-between typing tho, lol :roll:

I think a good reco has to leave *something* up to the imagination of the reader, lol. I mean if the reader already knows what to expect to a tee and has got the thirp party experience, why would he need to book now? its like your buddy is gonna do the same girl you did...and you go out for a beer and he asks you eagerly "so man, how was she?" generally any guy would probably say "She's really beautiful and makes you feel so relaxed...totally got me off" or at the very worst "She was awesome...what an ass on that one! and gorgeous tits and man can that girl give a good BJ!" you *wont* however hear his friend start into a graphic play by play where he uses phrases like "I slipped inside her with my love-stick and instantly felt her warmth" or "she cooed under my massive manly weight while she grinded on me later tossing her hair around screaming 'oh YES!!!'" face it, its kinda tacky.....if your buddy wanted to read a romance novel I'm sure he could have gone to Chapters.

ah ok, you didnt mention that she knew what you did for a living. in a similar instance tho I had a bartender friend who knows what I do give me a sly grin when an older male friend came and said hi to me at the bar...he walked away and my bar-girlfriend said "one of your CLIENTS? hmmmm?" and I turned to her appauled and said (which was true) "Thats one of the karaoke hosts that I know from another bar! jeezus!" I was a little annoyed that she thought that any older man saying hi to me MUST be a client. Your mother can probably read you well enough to know its a client or not tho...but hopefully if its just someone whos a gentleman outside of work she doesnt make assumptions like my friend did

that was my point as well

I Get this, Since you mentioned "just conversations and personal stuff".....this is a separate but somewhat similar situation that might bring our approach on our proffession to light: My Friend who is married decided to see a Therapist. Chose to not tell his wife but he felt he had issues that he needed to talk to someone about...most were surrounding his wife and their relationship and how after 4 years he was trying to understand changes that were happening that were drawing them apart. He told me that hw would leave every session feeling a sense of relief...he got it off his chest and he knew this Therapist was not going to go tell anyone about what he had divulged to her....yes HER and she was not that bad a looking Therapist either from what he said, lol He went home being a better husband with this relief...took some advice to use and was a better husband because of it...but not only from the advice...from the fact that he could reply on this therapist and utilise her discretion in her proffession to ease a lot of built up tension that may have eventually ruined his relationship with his wife due to the spite he felt towards her of not having that outlet. When things were back to what he deemed as normal he confided in his wife that he was seeing a therapist and had discussed some of the issues but now felt much better. His wife was furious for "sneaking around" saying he was at the gym when he was seeing this therapist and spilling the beans about their relationship. She felt like she was being ganged-up on even tho everything was even better than it was before....and you can bet she was right pissed off when she found out the therapist was female. She felt Betrayed....but when you hear the story like I just told, who do you feel is the one overreacting? Granted maybe he should have told her he wanted to better their mariage and was deciding to see a therapist...but what if she grilled him every night he came home as to what they discussed about her? Or what if she found out the therapist was female and while sitting at home alone waiting for him to return felt as tho he would rather talk to the therapist than her? In the end she felt so lied to that she almost wanted to seek out the Therapist and find out exactly what was said and give her side etc, she threatened to leave my friend on a couple occasions...all her friends sided with her story that he was a prick for doing what he did........I couldn't help but feel sorry for the guy. Can you? When I think about the men who approach us proffesional ladies for our services (even if its just for a chat...or more) and go home being better husbands because they've acheived that relief they were beating themselves up about pressuring their wives for, I cant help but think about that situation and how similar it seems to me. He took a situation and found his own solution and didnt tell anyone till he felt comfortable and took built up tension and let it go, making all other small problems that much more bearable...and sometimes not even non-existent. Hire a proffessional...know that when your time of "therapy" is up, its up...and be a better person because of it....If thats how it goes and you play things safe and respectful, you're not cheating........thats all I'm sayin :-)

I'd have to disagree. Sexually perhaps not but so long as the client doesnt get emotionally involved to the point of forgetting about his SO I dont consider it cheating. Some men are in situations where their SO cant provide for them sexually or are too busy...it doesnt mean that because he sees an escort for a sexual release that he doesnt care about his SO in my opinion...sometimes its quite the opposite. If I quit escorting and decided to be in a relationship (ha..at this point I'm so happily single as well that I cant even dream of the day coming tho! lol) I'd almost rather my SO turn to an escort instead of picking up some girl at the bar ans sneak around with her on the side....somehow seeing this side of the fence I'd be way less threatened by it as I know this isnt a girl thats going to be calling at odd hours of the night wanting him to leave me for her. lol

I remember that vaguely...I think I was really young tho, heard about it on the radio...yes yes evenh tho it was a newspaper contest, lol

lol..I like the Robin Williams quote...i can just picture him saying that :-)

*crumples up a paper ball and throws it at Angela* lol our winters here in Ottawa are brutal....can't blame us for gettin a weeee bit excited, lol ;-)

I'll admit, a sick part of me almost wants to win the contest and spend the money getting their show off the air....maybe start up a Jazz station in it's place, lol

And that is the way it definitely should be done, it keeps things professional and sets limits. personally my social fee is about half of my bedroom fee. I've made mistakes in the past not offering a social fee and its always brought about drama in one way or another. So many escorts including myself say "I'm dont charge by the service, just for my time" When we fuzz the lines between business and friendship (often viewed eventually as relationship) people get hurt. About first timers or non-repeat clients: true, everyone starts somewhere and some people dont call on a lady for their needs as often as others, however it doesnt mean that even if they dont come back for a year thay aren't considered a regular or trusted. To me, regular means "I have seen you before, I like your company and would recomend you and I trust you enough to put myself in your company again" not "I see you X amount of times a month/year" Additional Comments: oh dear! I should have clarified that i wasn't disagreeing with your statement, as I thought it was wonderfully worded....just adding to it for the readers that are clients that "priceless" doesn't mean that our company goes without compensation. Hope that clears things up? sorry for the misinderstanding :-)

I'm with ya on that one! vrooom! /drool ;-)

crowne is very discreet as well because they have the bottom floor that you can enter to without having to pass by the front lobby. only in the case where you get (I believe its..) floor 22 or higher, y9ou have to use a key card entry after 9. great hotel tho....be specific if you want a mini-fridge tho....I was told once I would have one and then the cubby was empty :-S

I had some guy call once from work...sounded like he worked in a warehouse or garage, people yelling around him etc too....I commented halfway through that it sounded very echo-y on the line and he said "oh I'm multi-tasking so I have you on speakerphone." ????????!!!!!! instant hang-up on my end

Ahhhh.....Spring is in the air!...even tho in the capital its cooled down a liiiiitle bit. I was filled with happiness strangely enough at our first thundershower last night. my favorite part about spring is the smell of rain. I let my windows open and huddle under covers if its cool and take a nice deep breath through my nose...I jus love it! whats your favorite part about Spring?

from what I've learned however...regardless of regular visits or a great relationship with a client one MUST put a price to that. In this month alone I have put the halt on seeing regulars on social outings "off the clock". This is hard because I still appreciate their company yet still must take my business seriously. I know this may not be what you are getting at Bailey I just thought that the subject should be addressed. I have lost a few clients recently who have talked about "so-and-so" going out with them for dinner etc with no fee attached or who have invited them out for drinks. while I love spending time with my regulars the unfortunate thing is that while money is aside most of the time for us, we can't make our rent by going for drinks off the clock....and once the price is set some will abide if they enjoy our company....and others will be more than happy to take advantage of an invitation to hang out from someone else for free. its like I said before....money is aside, however, its still a business. Priceless is not a term I use with regulars....I am delighted more than any client to see them, but I know that if i'm going to give a freebie of social time I'm going to hurt another girl's business potentially...or even my own thus welcoming drama.

bodily fluids are bodily fluids..no one is at less risk than the other. also, as the receiver, we are not only exposed to saliva but exposed to open cuts (as minimal as flossing too hard, giving off bleeding gums or open cavities for infection) giving off any other fluids saliva may decide to bring along with it. if you are concearned about risk, dont weigh who is more at risk to decide you answer...in the end, everyone is. The only thing that will make you feel better is taking every precaution (ie. dental dams/female condoms etc). being informed and taking the right steps (while getting tested often) is the only thing that will ease your conscience.....not the belief that either end has the raw end of the stick STI-wise of DATY the reality is, both sides are equally vulnerable

I understand the view here but I just want to offer another...what makes it obvious that a man is being seen with an escort? good looking girl saying hi to an older man etc...it happens! no one is ever going to assume you're an escort because of it. And its something that gals shouldnt be paranoid about...you will not "out" yourself if you smile and nod to a gentleman.....you might if you decide to walk down the grocery isle holding hands and swinging them giddily....but thats not what we're talking about here. personally if i was with my mom and i said hi to a karaoke friend...who may be in his 50s and totally akward...she may say "umm...how do you know that man?" I wouold tell her that karaoke brings about all types and ages of people and she would buy it....thats the exuse i would use if my mother grilled me when bumping into anyone she deemed "not worthy" of my age-range. And if she pushed further, i'd say.."mom, I'm friendly to anyone even if I've met them with my friends only once....would you rather I be mean? c'mon..." walking up to a guy and saying hi...not cool.....walking up to an SP and saying hi...also not cool, but I think everyone needs to ditch the paranoia of thinking that just because a client says hi it outs you as an escort...or if an SP says hi it outs you as a hobbiest. there are probably a million other situations a bystander will consider before saying "oh wow...shes saying hi to him...he's obviously paid her for sex" lol....jus sayin

just to be sure you know the diference between outcall and incall.... Outcall: The lady visits YOU Incall: YOU visit the lady at her residence, hotel etc

I dont see it as money (keep in mind I still see it as BUSINESS...just to keep in line..) My regulars are what make my day in this business...My relief from the BS I have to deal with on a daily basis. Sadly I've lost a couple in the following months for different reasons or reasons unknown and it has definitely left me a tad depressed. It is a very big compliment to have someone want to see you again...and again for that matter. Never hearing back from a regular is kind of like losing touch with an old friend...who you may feel akward by shooting off an email to asking how he's doing for fear of him thinking you were only contacting him for business means. The ones who I see again and again are indeed outstretching their hand to build a solid client-SP relationship (not to be confused with an actual relationship) but it makes conversation easier, catching up fun, and more than often the big hug at the door after reuniting after a few weeks that much more enjoyable. Money aside, The regulars are the ones that are the gems inbetween the rude customers and harsh phonecalls and degrading texts from would-be clients. They are the ones that at the end of the night, we walk to our cars with a smile on our faces. To the "collector hobbiests" I have no quams with wanting to try everything once, but in the end I will say that finding the right person (or two) and becoming a regular of theirs is the biggest honour a girl can give you, and if shes appreciative, a great compliment should you be a gentleman to her for her business and are a noble client...repeat business will definitely earn you a girl's trust and have her earn your's....from that point on it's all YMMV