Annessa

check out hintonburg (mechanicsVille) cheaper than Westboro ("the new Glebe" and where I reside) yet a stone'st-hrow from scott street ( another jugular-vein into downtown thats faster than the queensway)....cheaper rent from what I know......however I used to work there and while one street may vary in quality from the next.....there may be some used condoms in your backyard and the occasional Giant-Tiger carrying crack-head yelling down the street. in many ways, after seeing that on the ontario side i would much more favor just over the bridge in hull....even cheaper, less crack-heads (despite some stereotype) and better poutine :-)

i dont have a landline either and many people these days dont. however if the lady in question was walking to the bank with her supposed call yet received a msg from her initial caller, then why didnt she stop, and say "hold up, mister. who the heck are YOU? my date is calling me and here I am walking to the bank machine with you? whats going on here?" who knows, they may have not even been working together, the initial caller that she texted with may have just moved in and had given a wrong room number, perhaps he was on his balcony at the time he called getting some fresh air and saw the girl he was supposed to meet walking with another guy and assumed she had stood him up and decided to claim at the last minute that his sister was over to defend his pride......or did the same after she admitted she was downstairs. who knows, but there are many warning signs on this that say "get out, get out NOW!" which should have been done when the client only offered you a $15 deposit.....if you decided to stick with it because he went to the bank, him stopping to chat with some guy in a van parked (or ANYONE!!) should have clued into him either 1. being an informer or 2. not respecting your time-frame or discretion. (that would have been the absolute last straw for me personally) when you got the call from another place you should have said "I'll be right there, I had the wrong room number, can you give me the proper one?" at that point you lay the law down for the client you're walking with, perhaps even say that you have a driver parked closeby who is watching you (lie, yes, I know). it sounds like (due to the $15 deposit) this 2nd guy opened his door and was not expecting you and the initial caller gave you the wrong info....yet this 2nd guy tried to take advantage of your mis-fed info. He wasn't aware of your fee and idnt have a cell? this is definitely NOT who you were supposed to meet!...and that could end up dangerously believe me I'm relieved you got your agreed fee and left in tact, but also know that there is far more room for error and you were very lucky to arrive at the result you did. Upon reading this thread I dont thik that they were working together, if they were it was because initial buddy was trying to get his downstairs buddy laid, yet didnt inform him of the proper price...something that a good friend would probably do first...and a friend in that position probably wouldnt text asking where you were if he already knew

next date we have, KF we should strip wallpaper together...I guarantee it will leave you more giddy that your most recent experience. lol all joking aside, you guys, and gals are great, you all make me feel like I'm doing what i do right. And to me, thats the most important thing in this industry.....reassurance :-) however now I'm faced with a huge problem....my head has grown so big due to ego-inflation in this thread that i fear I may not be able to get through my front door for tomorrow's outcall! j/k ;-) :oops: *huggs to u all xoxoxo

I'm thinking this too....I always have my work phone off and say that I keep my personal phone on vibrate for emergencies....it rarely get ringed over and over tho, lol....unless its my babysitter stating a problem I believe theres an entire thread on this part of SP etiquette, however. BTW, requesting it does not mean its going to happen....if she confirms and agrees upon said attire then you definitely shouldnt feel any shame (just like politely requesting that her blackberry should be turned on vibrate or even off) in coyly saying "awww...so no "___whatever you requested__" for me tonight? I was so excited to see that" perhaps she forgot, (in which case she should have appologized and ran back and changed for you) but if she wasn't willing to fulfill a request that was agreed upon, and you were left with the awkwardness of having to ask for it again ...while her blackberry was ringing off the hook, then I dont think this is an SP who needs your business its funny, we talk a lot about bait and switch.....but if you agreed on something with an SP, yet they are only willing to meet u halfway or forget completely about your requests (and noted: personal requests for some clients are not easy to bring up...if hes done you a favor ladies in telling you whats turned you on and you 'forget'....excpect to not have him be a repeat!) its a bit of a no-brainer that they haven't put the time and effort and brains into *your* experience my two cents IMO

in regards to BBW Vero's post, I find its always a good practice to say the general area of the hotel. say you're staying at the Crowne Plaza, you'd say you're in the downtown core close to Queen, there are any number of hotels that could be, the Delta, the Crown Plaza, the Marriot, the Minto etc etc. ask him to call you 15 mins before your call to confirm and at that point tell him your hotel. ask him to call you again once he has parked "closeby" (also, ask him where he has parked so you get a general notion of how long it will take him to get to your room), once hes done that, tell him your room number. obviously if he has taken more than 15 mins (or however long it should take him) to get to your room, hes not there, nor does he plan to be...at that point you send him a message asking him if hes still coming....if you dont hear back 20 mins after your arranged call (5 mins after your last text), and you have others who are willing to book, text to say that you have to cancel unless he is willing to show up, as you have already given him well enough of your waiting time. I used to tell people the hotel I'm staying at in email conversations before having them call from the area, but have learned recently that it sometimes may not be the best move. I've received a lot of trouble at one hotel in particular when checking in in Ottawa sometimes and a late client who bombards me with texts from the lobby while their late-night staff that has nothing better to do then watch for "trouble" has made my stay....lets just say...a more surveyed one. Thats why I totally feel for your situation. however, as I said before, some new people just honestly dont know how to conduct themselves and dont realize the attention they're bringing onto us or themselves...hopefully however, they are willing to learn from their mistakes with the help of some polite proper guidance. I completely agree, I have had many instances of babysitters running late, not reliazing the client was a good $20+ minute drive away before I googled the address, my son coming down with a fever at the last minute etc etc... the list goes on and reality happens.....but we always call to inform the client of an unexpected change in plans, as I'm sure you did with your emergencies. Generally I always tell a client that unless I dont call you back and dont show up, it means I've gotten into a car-accident on the way to their place. I laugh but I'm serious. girls who dont call, dont answer the phone or even worse, turn their phones off and only give an explanation the next day are not worth anyone's time IMO. If an emergency arises, a good client will understand and appreciate the woman's honesty and respect in letting him know whats going on. I've had a client say I had "stood him up" because we had some very bad luck in booking...one afternoon we had planned, my son had to come home sick from school....we re-scheduled, then I had to cancel because I felt like I had perhaps caught what my son had and was feeling feverish. The client ended up holding a huge grudge and took it very personally.......I leveled with him saying if I really was going to leave him "stood up" I would not have called and just left him waiting. No shows mean you dont call, dont show up, and dont really offer an explanation when it would work in your benefit to do so. Generally the no-show clients I have (or havent had due to the fact) have guilted me after that they had something very important come up and I was being unreasonable for blacklisting them because they 1.have a very demanding job, 2. care about their family and needed to tend to an emergency or 3. "something" came up, and its apparently none of my business. a client who needs to make no excuses is just as bad as an SP who feels she needs to make no excuses. no shows=flakes people who inform you of an unpredicted change of plans at an appropriate time = worth a second chance IMO

awwww, thanks Mandalay and CowboyKenny, you're making me blush! :oops:

aww! I miss you already, lady! Give my best to the ladies! :-)

for proposals or whipped cream and banana lessons? lol, j/k

its funny, this convo has come up several times this week between me and some close friends who live on "the dark side" (ie. quebec lol) have you considered housing in Hull/Gatineau? its just over the bridge from downtown, rent is insanely cheaper for what you get...as for the language, totally bilingual and no one I know who has moved there has felt any difference than living downtown (cept for the price) taxes ARE different, however most housing inclides your water bill. this was pointed out to me by a friend that lives there...she said "why do you think so many ppl there have pools??" lol I do know some ppl who have gone around QC-billing etc using an ottawa address of a close friend or family member but if you're looking for more space for your buck, living just over the bridge might be something to look into. If I could I would, unfortunately I'd have to enroll my son in a new school if I did. But for anyone that doesnt have those ties, this is my two cents :-)

I would have to agree with this range. I find, the older the client, the more selfless the date is, I do find that older men past their 60s are more enamored with the courtship and tend to be more polite....generally i find clients under the 25-year mark as feeling entitled to great service because they think they are our "breath of fresh air" because they are young and generally pity us for "having" to see older clients. so many of us ladies receive emails like "so I'm 25, good looking, well endowed etc....what would you charge *ME*?" perhaps more!....kidding tho....although we always tend to squirm at a client who needs to vouch for themselves, be it age, looks or err...."member-size".....generally there is no pre-requisite to seeing us other than being polite, respectful and well......not having to "sell yourself" to us. It gets a little backwards in my mind when I see that. We are not here to judge your physical qualities....we are here to service your true self. Usually, your character and demeanor is more what we're excited to encounter. I digress, however, I have seen guys in their 20s who I didnt realize were that young until I met them due to their polite email/phone approach (and I give them points for not having to boast about their young age beforehand). And client over the age of 50 who I wanted to give a "time out" to or deny a "hall-pass" (i wont go into detail of the metaphor of what a 'hall' may be) to after rude and immature behavior.....there is always an exception to every rule....but generally if a client doesn't state his age yet exudes the most polite and respectful aparoach at first communication, Hes got my interest........even if I arrive and feel the need to card him at the door (you laugh but its happened! turned out he was older than me!...I was so embarassed!..he was absolutely adorable and polite in phone conversation tho, so he totally won me over. still, I just had to make sure, lol. That being said, he was just as polite as he was in email as he was in person :-))

agreed, tell us what you're looking for besides the wonderful GFEs available in Ottawa...looks, body-type, character etc.....dont be shy! Proper definition is your best friend on these boards! the recommendations-threads are a good tool as well :-)

not full anymore! its been a busy morning on here, lol

good points raised by wrinkled and mod. In a perfect world a system where the guys could report the gals would work....but alas, tis not, as some pointed out. however I see the act of compromise from that perspective now as beneficial for the site....i did not dismiss the benefits already available because of the already present system....but its interesting to think about how things would be different if the guys were allowed to talk about those experiences. however, having thought about it, I think I'm happy to say after some thought that the system we already have is better....plus modding all that stuff eventually would probably drive mod crazy, lol an improper business-woman will most likely see results in her not making any money eventually....and its more rare for a lady to join a site, make bookings with clients, and not show up to them only to get some kind of rise out of it then a male client who is bad news would do....good points everyone :-)

oh totally! like I said I was just throwing it out there that I find it funny that the girls can report no-shows but it almost seems acceptable for the ladies to pull them

agreed, and noted, but in the SP only section we're allowed to post No-shows and time-wasters. This gets the message across that its up to the other SPs whether they decide to book with this client or not. And a member who is a repeat no-show is generally looked into by the mod, perhaps given a warning or generally girls they try to book with after reading of their mishaps will hint that they are not comfortable booking with them because of their lack-lustre behavior with other SPs this in turn hopefully brings about an attitude adjustment from the client, letting them know that if they continue in the same way they have so far conducted themselves, things eventually wont wok out so well why should it be different for SPs who are no shows over and over? Do we not need our attitudes adjusted if we dont provide a call and ignore our clients and leave them hanging? In the same sense as we may still report no shows (with no vindiction other than to just say "they didnt show up/answer their phone etc) I think clients (if they're mature about it) should still be able to post ladies who disappear off the face of the earth at the moment of their scheduled appointment with no explanation and no follow-up. its only fair, but thats just my opinion. Granted there are emergencies etc, but a proper business woman will call and say shes running late, give *some* kind of explanation. in that case I dont think a grudge should be held or an instance reported. But if some SP is a repeat no-show how would any of the guys know and be able to make a future judgement call? its funny...I even call when I know ahead of time that things may not work out on time to allow my client to make other arrangements if its about a certain time-frame for them...most often tho, they appreciate the call and still hold the appointment. If I made no contact, I'd be a terrible SP and would need the same attitude adjustment if this was a repeat pattern. or , I digress, maybe this has just always how its been done and I have no clue what I'm talking about, (which I'm willing to offer as a possible option, lol) .....Just playing a little devil's advocate :-)

in a situation like this, what I've learned is always to remind the potential client that you "may" be available at that time, but unless they can confirm that they absolutely want that time-frame and provide you with a cell number for you to call them on at that exact hour (not "around") that they've requested in case of an emergency, then they do not have an appointment. Enforce that you need at LEAST an hour's notice and you as the SP, need to get that message and confirm it before he can even step a foot near your hotel. seriously tho...lingering in the lobby....while texting over and over...even if he DID go up, do you think the hotel lobby staff wouldn't have watched what floor the elevator stopped at? This shows a client who *ONE* isnt willing to make a solid booking....and *TWO* is not willing to consider their's or your discretion. granted, some people are new and dont understand that this is a business....but hopefully you sent him a polite email afterwards telling him the reasons wht his approach was not "how this works" ...- on the subject of CKs original problem, I have turned into the most anal businesswoman after going indi in this business...and for the better. I find in most cases if I'm dealing with someone (SP, or chick I'm trying to buy somenthing off of Usedottawa.ca etc) that the younger they are, the flakier their business ettiquette is. I have Blacklisted SPs that flake on duos and Blacklisted Graphic Design clients that are no-shows for meetings.....time is money, and I'm not going to let anyone waste my time. I had a Graphics client studder and wonder why I decided not to take on his project after he suggested we meet at a fancy restaurant where I drank for an hour by myself only to have him not show up coz he "forgot" he said "so thats it? you dont need my money? dont you know what I'm willing to pay you??" sound familiar girls? No-shows and flakes are unacceptable in ANY business...whether you're on the service end or on the client's receiving end...and a terrible businesswoman has just as much to lose as a no-show client. That being said, I know there is a warnings section for the gents, but are they allowed to post no-shows etc in that section. No-showing is ridiculous....sometimes a si ple call to say "I'll be 10 mins late" works wonders. commmonnnnnn!

as a note to a couple ppl and others who have msged me after my last post, another crucial point is that generally if I haven't met you, I'm not going to let you film me. filming for me takes a lot of trust and is not to be expected on a first-time encounter. put the effort into getting to know the SP you're interested in filming, and if she lets you eventually film, consider it a bonus, not an entitlement regardless of the dollar sign attached

These are the things I do with pretty much all of my clients. I take my purse with me into every room we both go into or I go into alone (i.e. the bathroom). I had a client ask why I was being so silly to bring most of my things with me everywhere I go. I tell him politely "this is simply a precaution I take with any situation, and i really need my eyedrops, lol"....and sometimes I do the playful thing when I bring my purse into the bedroom, saying,"just in case I have something in this we may need".....always want to have condoms close by but sometimes I also may have other fun things in my purse we may need....lube, massage oil....and oh, I dunno, the desire to keep my belongings in my view at all times :) if I have time enough between calls, I make sure I run money to a bank-machine or home or ask for a room with a safe if I'm doing ins. I rarely take call after call when I do hotel-incalls so the possibility of putting the money somewhere off-site is always a priority if the client I'm seeing next is brand new or isnt a trusted regular (and by trusted I mean, I know where he works, his home address etc, his full name etc... should he decide to rob me). I had a situation a year and a bit ago where a new client was apparently infatuated with how many people I had seen that day (incall). I politely said 'thats really none of your business, lets just focus on our time together right now". Truth be told, I had only seen two clients that day and it was already 10pm with this dude. a little red flag went up.....I thought to myself 'either this guy is seriously getting horny about all the people I've fu*ked today...OR hes trying to size up the amount of money I might have one me.......strangely he decided to cut his hour to a half hour....which I dont do. never saw someone get dressed so fast after not even getting a release yet never heard from him again as for safety calls, I dont say driver or "guy" or anything of the sort. I just say "theres a close friend that knows where I am and what I'm doing, and I always text her when I'm safe, where I am (exact details) and when I leave and arrive somewhere alone...."trusted friend" and "her" rings better than "driver" or industry related person or even "guy" (potential pimp in their minds....which could scare off anyone)....saying its just a friend who looks out for you sways the average joe not to worry too much.....if hes still concerned that someone knows where you are and makes a fuss out of it, then you have a problem....make it clear that they are potentially disrespecting your wishes or get out FAST

the sex scene in 'Boxing Helena' where he makes his amputated vixen, Helena, watch through closed closet doors while he adorns the escort shes hired for him. Helena claims she basically hates his guts but its clear when the depeche mode and candles are out shes wishing she had arms to masturbate during her voyeur moment

I advertise for couples as well as gents. I have a couple regular couples I see. but etasman is right, generally most ladies require communicating with the wife as well and setting everyone's honest boundaries beforehand....all cards on the table....that way theres no weirdness and no one feels like they're being disrespected or that choices are being made for them. In any situation like this, its very important for everyone to be comfortable.....setting ground rules that are tighter at first and perhaps eventually can be loosened is better that diving in head first and having a messy outcome :-)

convenient since this is the seasons most popular accessory according to fashion....well more like the suede boots than the latex ones, lol ;-)

hehehe, Valleyman and Angela, thanks for the BJ review, lol Nah I dont have one anymore, some clients are scared off by piercings so I stick with just my monroe piercing now. :-)

aww you are too sweet, Mandalay! as for the proposal prediction....i dunno man. I still have so much I want to experience with this proffession....its like quitting sports altogether after playin in your first year in the big-leagues....I still crave more....but ya never know. he'd have to be REAL special (like your guy!) for me to take that leap :-) and bananna and whipped cream lessons indeed were a hooot. I just wish I brought more! next time I'll bring some individually wrapped cucumbers too! LOL

buggernot, i once had a tongue ring and my ex couldnt tell the difference either, ....and I gave amazing blow jobs, haha

I agree with YoungStud in the "asking never hurt" department. however, with most filmed sessions, along with what YS mentioned to expect, also realize that a higher donation is generally expected. I for one now recently have aquired release forms for film and photos. That way, things can stay between the arrangement of your use and not stray beyond the lady's permission. you will find, as long as your intentions with the results and the communication with the SP are on the same page, you'll have no probs