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Heart meds, like diabetes meds, definitely affect your body. First talk to the doctor about getting checked with these meds in the system to determine if you need the current strength. If possible to get the right results with less medication, that would be the ideal solution. so don't try to self medicate, even tho there are natural products out there, talk to the natural health expert, tell them what you are on, don't just buy off the shelf. if there is no solution to the strength, there are going to be body changes, your body is not going to react in the way you are accustomed to. It will be necessary for you to be able to move past the idea that it will, and be at ease with what you may end up doing instead of what you planned to do. This is the best way to continue to have fun, is to accept the limitations of what the medication is doing, and carry on in spite of it. if you plan to see an escort, plan your appt so that you are approaching taking your next pill, not that you have just taken it. this is my theory, not sure if it is accurate, but it will be in the body full power after taking it, and will be waning 2 hours before you are due to take the next one, so choose your play time in that 2 hours :) i am not a doctor and don't pretend to be one, but any experienced escort accustomed to seeing older men with a variety of health concerns are able to figure out a way to resolve any issues. It may not be what you did 2 years ago, but it can still be fun.
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new prostitution bill
fortunateone replied to VedaSloan's topic in Legal discussion, cases & questions
If you are referring to client charges, apparently not. There was a recent article on the subject, not sure if it is in the In the News section. Some PDs have made a big show out of laying charges under the new laws regarding the advertising laws but i think they will find the courts throw that out, due to misapplication of the charge imo. -
I would say i would be happy to negotiate with someone who actually understands what negotiation is: it means you offer me a lower rate and I offer you less time/services. All too often the haggler is only interested in getting a lower rate, and offers absolutely nothing in exchange to get a lower rate. Some do not have a 45 minute rate, I do, however if I did not and someone thought the hour rate too high, then a proper negotiation would be to ask me can i do 45 minutes at a rate lower than the hour, and more than the half hour. Of course, why not, you are attempting to actually compromise and come up with a solution agreeable to both of us. however if i have found the majority of hagglers want to get the hour session at the half hour rate, and make sure that not only do they get what is normally offered, but additional services as well. The first thing I think of when someone is about to offer me less than what I quote, is that he will be one of those. If you want to negotiate go ahead, but keep in mind that negotiators and hagglers are never considered good clients, or valued regulars. If you do not mind being on their short list of people they would automatically choose not to see if anyone else contacts them in the meantime, then go ahead and dicker down the rate. If you think you are going to be welcome for repeat visits at the haggled down rate, you will be sadly mistaken Expect to be shuffled out the door without a end of session shower. Expect to see yourself going in for the hour, but door to door you are at 45 mnutes. Expect that, because that is actually what you paid her for, a lower rate = 45 minutes of her time. or 20 minutes if paying a reduced rate on a half hour session. escorts have ways of making sure you get what you pay for, one way or the other. Be wary of the ones who agree to a lower rate, it is extremely likely they are agreeing because the main thing some want from a haggler is to separate him from his money for his disrespect. if he feels shortchanged by the experience, that is entirely on him. Hopefully he will have learned his lesson by his own mistakes.
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Ode to the Regular Client
fortunateone replied to Cara Silver's topic in General Discussion Area - all of Canada
I don't get paranoid, I simply assume they are like 99% of the population and have no idea about either the new laws or the old ones. plus what is there to get paranoid about, you are perfectly and legally free to say anything you wish about your own rates/services/specialties/specifics. -
new member introduction
fortunateone replied to jennytor's topic in General Discussion Area - all of Canada
i don't think there is any one particular spot. Welcome to the site, you can continue to post in this thread to get your 5 post minimum covered. Many new to the site start a new thread just like this. -
Thank You Thread!!
fortunateone replied to vader75's topic in General Discussion Area - all of Canada
it is like a breath of fresh air on this site, isn't it vader? cheers and have a happy February. :) -
If you are asking is this a common thing, the answer would be no. It is not unusual for a newbie escort to ask for this, because she may be coming at if from a dating/hookup experience, and think it is a perfectly reasonable request in a commercial setting. it would not be, and as mentioned, you should take care that you are not sending personal info to a scammer/blackmailer/non escort. Legit escorts have a body of evidence to show they are legit. if you don't get a legit vibe off an ad that is making this pic request, then do not send it.
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new prostitution bill
fortunateone replied to VedaSloan's topic in Legal discussion, cases & questions
As has probably been said before, there are some cities that will not enforce especially situations (like agencies) that have stuck with the time/companionship legal clause disclaimer so that the courts can't pin anything on them. there are some cities that want to enforce the new laws, but the new laws they will enforce are just reworded old laws, meaning only interested in the street workers, so now it means only interested in the street worker clients. As for agencies, just because you enjoyed their very detailed online ads and websites for the past few years, doesn't mean that at any time or in any way was that actually legal. It has never been legal for any agency to 'procure' for clients, that is why in the past no information was ever given to clients by ads, websites, phone calls or emails, no booker would ever tell you what the escort's menu was. Everyone knew you book an agency, you discuss face to face and hope for the best. The concept of full lists and pricing and menus that was illegal before, so no real difference. The agencies that make a big deal out of making the changes just seemed clueless about the laws. There are laws that get enforced, and those that do not. Just because they weren't being enforced, doesn't mean that it ever was legal for agencies or mps for that matter to tell you the client what she the attendant/escort would provide and for how much. So basically, you will have to deal with it and live with it. I think you can be assured that behind closed doors and face to face the agency is still going to hire people who provide the same types of services as they always hired before, and that if you are unsatisfied with someone who arrives, that they will see it right. Even if neither of you can be that specific about what you missed out on or what they can promise. -
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If you just go to an sti clinic, which will also give you anonymity if you wish, they will not be as squeamish about agreeing to all tests. Also, even the one near me with limited open times has the rapid on the spot test available when they are open. I find that regular clinics/doctors act like they are paying for the tests out of their own pockets. i don't feel they are even worth bothering with when i want a full work up.
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It is not OK, but that is more about proper protocol rather than legality. Solicitation laws have only ever been in relation to outdoor work/workers because it had only ever been about public solicitation. In fact, isn't that one of the laws the SCC overturned, so in fact this is actually now legal for the sp? But in general, it isn't really considered a good business practise to contact clients, or potential clients. If they are interested, if they have the time, if they have the $$ at that time, that is when they contact sps.
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evidence-based approach
fortunateone replied to GeorgeH's topic in Legal discussion, cases & questions
I believe there is a Liberal statement that specifically says that C36 is not supported, i.e. so that does tell you what Trudeau/Liberals think about C36. Many people are saying that NDP and Libs "must' come up with an alternative, or some such nonsense. They do not. Not doing any new laws is taking a stand, that these parties accept the SCC ruling that overturned those 3 clauses in the existing laws, and also means that they accept that the remaining laws are more than sufficient to deal with the issue of prostitution. The point of the SCC ruling wasn't to bring in replacement laws, it was to remove damaging laws. The rest of the laws cover all of the issues the Cons, the antis, and C36 supporters say were lacking in the existing laws. In other words, the govmint lied to you. :) -
Locker room type behaviour?
fortunateone replied to a topic in General Discussion Area - all of Canada
The class itself is 26 people i think? And they know some details about the guy who exposed the page, and they can probably guess the guys who were never invited. This is not a class of 700 where people really have anonymity. The women have to sit side by side, they have to interact with, and they may have to share practical time with these guys who they are going to be either 100% sure did it, or only 50% sure, meaning they will have high level of distrust towards all of them. It poisons the entire learning experience for all of the women students, and some of the male students. None of them are going to be able to focus on their work, that is, unless the ones involved happen to get expelled or redirected out of the main classes. While banning a word may seem extreme, it almost sounds as those who object object on the basis of free speech as opposed to WHAT DOES THAT WORD REALLY MEAN. The word 'y o u n g' is censored from this site, there is a sticky list of censored words. this is a recent event, the censoring of certain words that may be considered problematic. I didn't think it would be a huge stretch to include that particular word when it has been so misused and inappropriately used in this thread. That i came back yesterday and read it being used again, and completely out of context for its origin, made me include that info. It is my firm belief that neither of the parties who like to use the word bothered to research the youtube song and the meaning behind it. it is a strong visual image that would have stopped them from reusing that word to describe young men who are being held accountable for their actions. Not one of these young men are being rounded up by people in white sheets, they have not been chained to the back of a truck and dragged thru town, no one has burned a cross on their front lawns, no one spray painted swastikas on their front doors, and no, not a single one of them was dragged out of their homes and strung up by a rope on a nearby tree while people took photos and drank and made obscene comments. So no, none of them have been lynched, and not a single person has even remotely come close to suggesting that they would be. -
Locker room type behaviour?
fortunateone replied to a topic in General Discussion Area - all of Canada
I propose, on this day of ALL days, that mod go in and make 'lynch' a forbidden word on this site. I find the continued use of it highly offensive, especially after it's origins were discussed fully. Misuse and over use of the word lynch really got to me today. this is Martin Luther KING day in the US, is there any way we can NOT misuse the word to describe stupid dental students? For anyone who wants to use it again, look up what this song is REALLY about. ( i was about to swear, i rarely do that, but this is the kind of thing that really offends me). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4ZyuULy9zs -
evidence-based approach
fortunateone replied to GeorgeH's topic in Legal discussion, cases & questions
The footnotes in his brief are also very informational, and if you go search out those reports as well, like Estes and Weiner. The researchers there are also very firm about the results: they only talked to those under 18, their whole study was about kids in the street sex trade. Also, they were looking for those pimps. They discovered that not more than 10% of all these teens working on the streets had any one exploiting/pimping/forcing them. Even young, they were well aware this was an exchange, more so they would not be in a group home, not be at home being abused, not being exploited by the system or adults or parents against their own will. This they felt they had control of, and this provided them for what they need. Lowman's work is a good source for anyone who wants to argue that minimum age and abusive childhood angle used to excuse these draconian laws. just wanted to say draconian, not sure if it is used correctly lol Basically, if you never study anyone over the age of 18, then what results are you likely to get? That they started when under 18. I once did polls on at least 3 or 4 sites, so all indoor, former mp and agency types, independent, etc asking how old were you when you started. The average age of entry was at least 23. there were not more than 10% who started under 18, and many of those were just shy of being 18. There were an equal number (10%) who didn't start until after 35. -
Unauthorized Email List Sharing
fortunateone replied to a topic in General Discussion Area - all of Canada
I would just suggest you visit the escort sites you are on, check your settings and switch off the email contact if there is one on each site. i am on SEA and it is an older site, and people can send me emails via that site if they are logged in and visit my profile. send pm or send email options are there. -
I have a couple of regulars who come in from Chilliwack, which is probably the furthest driving distance. I used to see someone out of Hope who did his banking in the GVRD so would come in once a month or so. Other than that, a couple of people get on ferries to come to town, as well as cross the USA/Canada border of course, which probably takes longer than some ferry or driving times.
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I am also just going to throw out there that some of the ads you are going to see that use face pics, well the face is not the face of the escort you meet. There are some shady dealers out there, and they know that there are guys like the OP who say face pic or not appt, and they do accomodate. Like Lily's agency, whatever you ask for, that is what we say we are sending but when the lady arrives at the door, she will more likely be completely different. In my area there is a flood of ads daily, spam really, the vast majority for micros, which are like mini massage parlours with illegal workers and locations. Every one has face pics, everyone is slim, everyone is between 21 and 23, every single one. And yet, at the door, no one you will ever meet will actually be the one in the photo. or 21 to 23 lol. So. some advertisers give what clients are demanding: face pics, full menus, low rates, but when you arrive it is a different story. Sometimes going with an ad that does none of that, you have a better chance of success.
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what are you doing at this very minute?
fortunateone replied to Exotic Touch Danielle's topic in Fun Threads
I just made bread! In bread machine, but that counts too! -
Unauthorized Email List Sharing
fortunateone replied to a topic in General Discussion Area - all of Canada
i don't think you necessarily have to give consent to a first email, but when the sender is contacted by you saying stop, then they have to stop. it is like the telemarketers -
Unauthorized Email List Sharing
fortunateone replied to a topic in General Discussion Area - all of Canada
You are on forums like this tho? I know I don't usually try to contact forum members by email, but on the first one i joined, it did have the option unless you turn off the setting. So I would be able to go to a person's profile and choose to contact them by email or pm. It is entirely possible as well that you are in an escort's email history when she worked under a different name, which she failed to put into her message. I can't think of any situations where escorts who know each other have the time or desire to share email client lists with each other for any reason. -
I don't blame them so much as the people who continuously offer to pay them to show up to something and be photographed lol. If you were offered 10s of thousands of dollars just to show up, get a photo, speak into a microphone to say welcome to the club, or happy birthday gary, would ya turn it down? :)
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[url]http://www.fairobserver.com/region/asia_pacific/legalizing-prostitution-new-zealands-example/[/url] [QUOTE]Should prostitution be legalized? It has been ten years since New Zealand parliamentarians, after considerable debate and encouragement from sex workers, mainstream womenâ??s organizations, and public health advocates, voted for changes to the laws governing prostitution. The Prostitution Reform Act 2003 (PRA) heralded a significant turnaround in approach, repealing laws that had been used to criminalize sex workers and created circumstances that contributed to their vulnerability. Rather, the aim of the PRA is to decriminalize prostitution and safeguard the human rights of sex workers, while protecting them from exploitation. The law also states the importance of promoting sex workersâ?? welfare and occupational safety and health, and that the law be conducive to public health. In addition, it prohibits the â??use in prostitutionâ? of people who are under 18. â??Low-Keyâ? Decriminalization Today, as it was before the change in law, sex work is widespread, and mostly occurs in a low-key way in minor towns and in every major city throughout New Zealand. Yet the industry has not grown in the last ten years. It's not obvious that the sex trade has been decriminalized: brothels are not on every corner, nor are â??sex for saleâ? signs flashing at the unsuspecting. However, inside, brothels now display safer-sex information prominently. Sex workers are allowed to work in managed brothels with no size restrictions, or to collectivize and work as equals with colleagues, or to work alone. Home occupation and standard business zoning laws generally apply â?? although there have been some city councils who have been successfully challenged in court for the development of unreasonable bylaws restricting the location of brothels. Street-based sex work is allowed and there is no regime of licensing or mandatory testing of individual sex workers. Sex worker registers are a thing of the past, in recognition that it is not sex workers who need monitoring as criminals. However, operators of brothels, and anyone involved in directing sex workers for profit, are required to have an operatorâ??s certificate. These certificates are issued by the District Court and withheld from people with specific convictions, including those for violence. The PRA enables sex workers to reach out for help and access justice if necessary. While the police were previously the enforcers of anti-prostitution laws, they are now widely regarded by sex workers as their allies in the prevention of violence. The police, too, report the effectiveness of decriminalization in building non-coercive relationships with sex workers as a violence prevention strategy. While decriminalization has not stopped all violence â?? as no law alone could achieve this in any context â?? there is overwhelming evidence that decriminalization has enabled sex workers to decline contact with people they perceive to be potentially dangerous clients. The law also explicitly reinforces the right of sex workers to refuse to continue providing services to any client, to prevent the confusion that sex workers give away this right as contractors to brothel operators. The government has published guidelines with input from sex workers that expands on this, and which address issues of security and safety in the context of sex work. Anti-Trafficking Tool Decriminalization of sex work creates many opportunities to head off exploitation, and is significant as an anti-trafficking tool â?? Immigration New Zealand continues to report that they have found no instances of sex trafficking in New Zealand, despite their determined forays into the migrant sector of the sex industry. Reports that large numbers of youth are now trafficked by gangs into prostitution are not backed up by police evidence. Government and community-based agencies, including peer-based sex worker groups, collaborate to assist youth who are involved in sex work. This collaboration would not have occurred prior to decriminalization due to mistrust of the police. Decriminalization has also created higher standards and expectations in relation to occupational safety and health. Sex workers, and even their clients, will blow the whistle if they suspect something in the work place that doesnâ??t look quite right. There have been mundane complaints about withheld money by clients or brothel operators, which have been resolved in an easy to access Disputes Tribunal setting in the local district court (though there is an arbitrator rather than a judge, and no lawyers are present), to more serious reports of underage sex workers being illegally hired, resulting in jail time for brothel operators. Sex workers have utilized their right to combat workplace sexual harassment from their bosses using human rights legislation; a right unimaginable prior to decriminalization and probably unobtainable while brothel-keeping was illegal. Better Communication There is also a freeing up of communication. Prior to the law change, the sex industry was hidden under a range of misleading identities, such as escort agencies and massage parlors, which had to pretend that commercial sex was not their main purpose. This distancing inhibited the health promotion strategies that sex workers and brothel operators now use to build a strong culture of safer sex. Today, people who are considering sex work are unlikely to arrive at a business with the promise of â??Earn $$$ Nowâ? and â??onsite training availableâ? and be unaware that its real purpose is to provide commercial sex services. Instead, they are legally able to seek practical and realistic information to inform their decision to become a sex worker. Of course, negotiations between sex workers and their clients can be more focused on the things that matter. Sex workers can negotiate more carefully without the pressure of wondering if their next client is an undercover cop who is about to arrest them and count their condoms, or someone who may cause them other kinds of harm. Corruption has also been nipped in the bud, with the police recently prosecuting one of their own for unlawfully trying to extort sexual favors from a sex worker with traffic offences. The Department of Labour has produced guidelines after consulting with sex workers and brothel operators, which expand on issues of security and describe safe ways in which to provide services such as â??outcallsâ? to the homes of clients. They also address sexual and reproductive health themes and promote the importance of regular, but non-mandatory, testing, in recognition that it is condom use and other safer sex practices, and not testing, that most effectively prevents the spread of sexually transmitted infections (STIs). The law forbids brothel operators promoting or implying that their staff are free from STIs, but requires them to explicitly promote safer sex. The prevalence of sexually transmissible infections for the countryâ??s estimated 5,000 sex workers is in line with other general populations, with HIV remaining negligible. Medical Officers of Health, under the auspices of the Ministry of Health, have the power to inspect brothels and check compliance with health and safety requirements. The police only routinely visit to inspect liquor licenses. The approach to allow sex work to occur, supported by labor and other mainstream laws, is now accepted by most people in New Zealand. There are local controversies, such as the lack of zoning for street-based sex workers, which ignite debate, with a bill before the parliament to give councils the power to do so. Interestingly, the police have backed the New Zealand Prostitutes Collective in opposing this bill, recognizing that informal agreements are more effective than imposed legal regimes. Decriminalization of prostitution is being called for by sex workers in many countries, including India, Fiji, Scotland and, of course, the United States. For sex workers, it goes much deeper than repealing key parts of legislation that criminalize their work. Like others, they want the rights and responsibilities to participate in society without discrimination. The New Zealand model of law reform is a step to creating conditions that allow this to happen.[/QUOTE]
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Locker room type behaviour?
fortunateone replied to a topic in General Discussion Area - all of Canada
There wouldn't even be a debate if this groups were talking about violent actions against a particular race. Because it is gender based we are supposed to excuse the content of the matter because it was supposed to be a private group and/or private joke. However, sharing this info undermines the women and other students in this class. Now the 'boyz' are snickering at them behind the scenes, and every time one interacts with a female student, he is reminded of Guy#2's rape jokes or accusations of her using her wiles to get better grades or perks. Whether or not she knows about this stuff is irrelevant, her interactions with these male students is still affected by their socalled private activities. And saying it was supposed to be private, and we'll blame whoever leaked it out? Ok, so someone actually does the right thing after how many months or years, but he's the problem here because he won't stand for it happening. He's ashamed or outraged or bothered or whatever, gives the info outing this hate group, embarassed as well because those creeps decided he was also a creep, based on his gender and nothing else. I don't accept the excuse of a private FB group (an oxymoron at best), because if any of those same guys started email campaign or texting to each other, these interactions between each other would be considered, according to the law. 'private' because they are just between friends. However, that 'assumption of privacy' can still be exposed. No one who exposes wrong doing should be blamed for sharing presumed private info. There are a lot of things that go on in the world that if someone didn't expose the wrong doing would still be happening. Additional Comments: It's not so much that a private group should not expect privacy, it is that a private group that is set up to express hate towards a particular group, not to mention a little slander here and there, should not expect protection. The slander I refer to the accusations that the (or some) female students were using their gender-specific-qualities to get better grades, additional time, and/or special attention from the instructors. In this case, the contents of that private group were breaking the university code of conduct, as well as common decency, according to whoever gained access and exposed it all. You only have to read the excerpts to realize that they did the right thing. Saying there is something wrong with doing that, is like saying it would be wrong for an actual rape victim to report the rape, cuz the perp had a reasonable expectation of privacy. Or that threats sent via text or email shouldn't be reported because the person sending it thought the conversation was a private one. Additional Comments: In which case, you seem to agree both that the 'private' FB should have been exposed (as in should not have been left private) and that the contents of the FB page were in violation of code of conduct at the very least. In order to have rehabilitation, there is first the fact they did something wrong and it was a good thing they were exposed for it. If that is what you are saying I agree. I think they should bear the consequences of their actions. It is the only way they will learn. Clearly they did not learn anything along the way to their mid 20s manhoods to not have done this in the first place. It is also clear they do not want the women in the class, resent them and are somewhat fearful of their presence. They want to 'knock them down a peg', get them beneath their feet at least in their minds, and diminish them in some way. And that is the heart of this, bitter resentment and lashing out, and if they do this online, it still begs the question, they think this is OK online, it means they will always think it is OK online. But maybe also going further. If they are not faced with real and serious consequences, whatever it may be it isn't just a suspension and not having to deal with their vicitms, then this as a learning lesson will be lost. not just for themselves, but for other uni students, the general public, and the women