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I always thought it was 'code' for a blow&go session, nonFS, just a bj kind of thing. Here there are some who are non-GFE 15 minute FS sessions, but it seems like a waste of time and energy promoting that as an option. For something lower rate and low risk, as in for clients who aren't sure they want more on a first visit, why not offer that non-FS thing, which might take about 15 minutes, and everyone is on their way. To me the 15 minute for a FS session kind of degrades the experience down to nothing, almost a waste of money might as well throw it away, or get someone in the car for a car date. Save time and money lol.

cc. I hope no advertiser is dim enough to actually put in their real address, but it is a good warning to put out there in case they do. The feature allows you to put in just the city and then click on the pointer or whatever it is at some random cross street for the purpose of the map. I don't even give out my actual address to someone who is traveling from a far distance, I have the address of a building that is near the cross streets I provide for anyone who wants to google map to get directions and driving times, or to use for GPS.

Wasn't that long ago I logged in a few times and it was telling me the server was too busy for me to get on right then. Ack That was not fun. :)

If she is on here, and posts in discussion topics, take the time to read her posts. You will get a very good impression of what she is like and what she thinks. If you are contacting by phone or email, keep to a no-more-than-3 rule. First email, then reply to her reply, then on the 3rd you are commiting to an appt booking or thanking her for her time and stop. With phone calls you are making them only if that is how she prefers to be contacted. Let her know the approx date and time you are interested in, and don't expect to stay on the phone for more than 5 minutes. Don't make a habit of calling several times prior to booking an actual appt, but it is possible to go thru the rates/services and availability while getting a sense of her personality and attitude while talking. In other words stay on topic, let her know you are new, and that you haven't fully decided yet, but will confirm closer to that date/time you suggested. Stay on her good side by not contacting her again until or unless it is to make an appt, and if you make the appointment and can't make it, that you contact her with lots of notice to cancel. You've already narrowed it down to one particular one. I have to say a lot of times new clients, or long time fence sitters, spend a lot of time on forums like this, and yet never seem to be able to avoid even the basic pitfalls of their first selection going really wrong. In spite of the information in front of them, time after time the new guy makes a seriously bad decision. So just take care that considering you have the option to see established, experienced, reputable and highly recommended sps by using this site, don't let anything dissuade you from choosing one of them lol

If you are farther away, I would do what some of my faraway regs do, they call the day before to assure that I am actually available the day and time they hope to be able to make a visit. nothing is written in stone, tho, as they may not be able to get here anyway, which is fine. Then closer to the time on the day, they do their confirmation call. Simplifies things. I don't think I would take for granted someone's website calendar. 6 is a lot, which might be why we are asking a few questions and making a few suggestions. Besides confirming schedule the day before (and keep in mind if some of these sps did not hear from anyone the day before, maybe they decided to take the whole day off? But they wouldn't have, had you checked in with them the day before. Of any of the 6, besides leaving a message, did you make a 2nd or 3rd call, speced out within a reasonable time frame? Sometimes someone has called me, left a message but no call back number, and their number to call back either doesn't show or doesn't work. Calling back until you reach them doesn't have to mean as shown every 5 minutes for an hour, but I don't mind someone calling within reason until they reach me. I always return calls within a reasonable time period, but I do know some sps who won't. I don't think it is a good business practise to ignore messages, if they want to ignore messages they should just disable the voicemail feature, or at the very least put that in their own message. Hi, you've reached Lady X, don't leave a message I won't return it, just keep calling until you reach me, OR, call back after 2pm. I play with my message all the time, either I'm available, not available, call back in 20 minutes, call back in 5 minutes, or call back after 5pm, whatever the circumstances. Most frustrating to me is someone who calls, does not leave a message and does not call back within the time I suggest in my voice mail. It's like they say to themselves I tried, and failed, moving on. One phone call no message is not trying at all lol. And that's probably why you see those sps who return calls 15 minutes later, if everyone just left a message and messages were listened to and returned, it would run a lot smoother.

I think it will be helpful but when I tried to use it today it messed up the rest of my ad badly, so I disabled it. I would have thought that just posting in my city section would be enough of a hint as to my location, but judging from the many calls asking where am I and following my reply with a 'that's too far for me' I guess most do not lol. visual aids may be the next best step.

There is a section of the Criminal Code which deals with this.

I agree. I think most regular clients repeat because of the lack of surprises in the encounter, as opposed to always wanting something new and strange happening. Altho they are not necessarily opposed to a new outfit from time to time, it is the person they come back to see, as well as what that person provides. There is usually little need to 'mix it up' for real regulars. They are usually rebooking in order to repeat that same experience, not get a new and different one. This isn't like other service businesses. I don't think specials, gimmicks and promotions work as well as consistently providing a memorable experience. And the key to repeat business is to make sure the first and second and third visits are good ones.

I like both actually. what I am not that fond of is the hairier guy who shaves his body hair. That stubble is actually can be very uncomfortable. :( The thing with body hair is that it is as soft and smooth as the very bare type of body (usually asian guys have little or baby fine body hair, and their skin is smooth as satin), but a very very furry body is as the poll suggests -- fuzzy bear. :)

You can cover the name and address info with masking tape or easy to remove label paper.

I have found the most durable stayup stockings I have found came from the dollarama or a similar discount store. I highly recommend getting them there if you can, and especially as a client who is asking and sometimes been disappointed to find the sp is not wearing them on arrival. For about 1.50, you just hand them over. And if she is wearing them, then you know you have a keeper and she can have the stockings as a tip, pretty much knowing that wearing them at all means they will have a run at the end of the session lol. If someone asks, or they are a regular and I know that they want the stockings, i take the time to put them on. Because they do take extra time to get on, and if it is super hot, and it is a new client expected, I too will hesitate to put them on for all the reasons mentioned above. If the client no shows on me, I'll have taken the time and discomfort to accomodate (discomfort due to heat lol). The shoes are not optional, i always wear them to and during appts. In fact, tho some clients will request stockings be taken off, and for me to also take the shoes off. I do promote myself as a stockings and heels sp, tho, so my default is always to be wearing both, especially for new clients, provided they have given me more than 10 minutes notice and it isn't super hot outside, because it will be super hot inside :)

I kind of have a feeling the sp who said she stocked anitibiotics was lying. Not to be rude, but where would she get them unless she had a diagnosis, in which case she is meant to be taking all of them per the perscription instructions. The alternative is she stole them from somewhere? In which case, have they expired, and what is she self diagnosing in herself to start taking them. You can get tested at std clinics under an anonymous name, so altho the info is tracked it doesn't mean the government has your true identity. Sometimes this kind of topic makes people nervous. I am not sure what in the US they would inject for, but I assume it would be penicillin for gonorrhea or syphillis? Not sure, I think the reason we have the pills, used over the course of a week, a couple of times a day, is to ensure the dosage fights the infection over time. it is possible the injection in the US was because you were not from the country, or staying in it, and you can't transport medications across the border without a prescription, so maybe getting oral meds with a prescription was just going to be that much more complicated as a tourist in the US?

I disagree. If the sp is of age, LE will find that out. If she isn't, then they will shut down her advertising. LE isn't looking for someone working legally as in of legal age, and is she can prove she is 18 or older, they will leave her alone. Additional Comments: I think you are absolutely right. It isn't your job to figure out if an ID is fake or real, lol, But it is to check it and be able to say you did check it. LE is not going to fault you for having checked ID and not be able to see it is faked. Additional Comments: I don't think that making LE wait is the way to go here lol. If you contacted them why not send a link to the ad itself, and/or profile if the sp is on here. I gather from this post that there might be an 'agency' involved, or it might be a couple of underagers working together. I wouldn't lose sleep over a couple of teenagers making anonymous threats over the internet, but include that in your LE report. When LE gives them a lecture, they will include harrassment etc. A 14 year old in BC was charged with pimping out another 14 year old over a year ago. I fully believe that under 18 year olds can start this kind of work fully independent of any overt pressure and coercian, but it doesn't mean it is OK or legal. So a message to the sps who are reading this and know they are underage, it is only a matter of time. time you need to wait until 18 to start working legally, in other words. And for these people contacting FF, knock off the harrassment, threats and bullying tactics. It will only work against you. These are adults here, and they will take the appropriate steps to protect themselves, thru legal means.

I totally agree. It doesn't matter if you are not 100% sure she is underage, but if you are 100% sure, then you contact the correct department of LE or find the number to whoever is more easy to deal with and report the ad. If you want to remain more anonymous, then you find out what email address to use and send the ad links to that address. If you don't know for sure if the links will stay active, as in the poster may delete and repost often, then make sure you copy the ad content when sending the email. There is no grey area. If you know this is an underage worker, you report her immediately. I have zero concern for the clients in this instance, they should be reporting her as well if they go to see her and don't ask for ID for proof of age if they even have a hint of a doubt. Chances are many clients go to see someone advertising as 18 and looking younger because they want her to be underage. Additional Comments: If the sp advertises as 18, and looks younger or older than that, it is his responsibility to check her ID and verify her age. It doesn't matter if he does it knowingly or unknowingly, the law is the law and doesn't care if he knew her age or not. It was his responsibility to find out., not hers to volunteer it. We already know the underagers are lying about their age, it is up to him to verify it before proceeding. Additional Comments: If you won't do it, then give the information to someone who will. It is turning a blind eye and not wanting to get involved that is a problem, imo, not whether she is willing or unwillingly working. She is underage. Enough said.

Very nice to see you here. This site is ideal for what you are seeking.

Fully legal in New Zealand, with laws that were similar to Canada, but they decriminalized all but the minimum age requirement. I think Australia has some legal cities, and some not legal. i do know of an sp in Australia who is very sweet, and will pm you her site.

I don't like when sps are trying to solicit business with randomly sending out texts and it is hard to imagine there is any other reason for them to do it. I think we are limited to placing our ads and REPLYING to queries, whether by text, email, pm, chat or phone, and not to initiate any kind of contact. Always excepting the client who has made it clear he wants that sort of connection of course. I think of it this way, texts are more like making phone calls than they are like sending an email. I know that a client keeps his emails private and is only going to read them when he is alone. Texts are not private, they just spring up on the phone. Anyone is able to read that, a co worker, a family member, or a stranger is they were in the right place at the right time. Not only that, but the texts hang around forever until deleted. Something that can be checked and read by anyone anytime, hours or days later. I think that someone who would say they wouldn't dream of phoning a client out of the blue two weeks after having met them for the first time, would think nothing of sending a text. But they should think of the text in exactly the same way as they think of making a voice call. Or even more like, walking up to him while he is sitting in a cafe with other people and saying hello, when are you coming to see me again. In many ways, sending a text is exactly like that.

Because I cannot ever consider living anywhere with extreme weather, I have to say Vancouver. But also because visually it is stunning, even if you are not just downtown Vancouver, but in the burbs. There is a road that has a straight view to the mountains that can't be beat. I can see Mt. Baker on a very clear day from my balcony, but if it isn't clear, I still see the mountains, and the Fraser river, especially in the winter because in the spring the really fantastic trees are filled with leaves and can block my view. But if you did live downtown, and I did for several years, you would have the ocean, the mountains, and Stanley park with the seawall. And one of the most interesting pools perched on the edge of the beach almost, so full the water almost seems to overlap the edge of it. If you were born in such a place, or close to it, i don't think you could possibly live bound by land or not shadowed by mountains. I agree tho that this is a place for people who enjoy a laid back kind of life, but also something outdoorsy more than a cultured urban jazzy thing. But multi culturally speaking, I don't think there are many places that can beat the very diverse neighbourhoods.

You would first book an appt with a well reviewed and reputable sp. Then once you are assured of that, the very simplest thing is to stay in the same room as your belongings. If you shower, take them with you, and close the door behind you. I don't have a problem with someone taking their stuff with them from room to room, I usually suggest it. In the case of larger items, like a laptop or bag, then you probably won't do that lol. but taking your pants that hold your keys, phone and wallet, why not. It isn't a big deal if you do, and saves a lot of hassle if you misplaced a 20, and then later realize that you are 20 short, and decide to blame the blameless sp for taking it.

Clients who are on the verge of going overtime, and we know they don't plan to compensate for, who then get annoyed if we check the clock lol. Clients who assume they know what's going on in the other room. Clients who are so rough and aggressive that the sp has to back away and ask them to stop touching them at all. Clients who talk badly about cbj providers in general or dismiss the real risks of bbbjs to make the cbj provider look like an OCD freak. Clients who demand face pics, or don't quite 'get' that sps might want their privacy rather than be approached in public by a complete stranger who saw their online ads. And people who complain about everything. Hopefully this entire thread is either closed or deleted. I don't care for the negative stereotypes on cerb and think there are places where this sort of thing would be better received, and encouraged.

And that is where you will be absolutely and completely wrong. It is far harder for a young 20's guy to get an appt with a higher rate escort (who are actually usually mid 20's and up, i think) than it is for a guy 35 and up. i could probably provide links to a half dozen sps thinking off the top of my head with minimum age requirements that you don't meet. You are falling into that 'I'm young therefore I'm more desireable' trap that affects many of the younger guys. In fact it is such a syndrome that even lower rate sps have minimum age requirements, lol. I think maybe read in the general area the section "New to This" and you will get a pretty great idea about what is and is not attractive to sps. In the US, many escorts charge higher rates, sometimes because they are out of an agency, and often because it is just so highly illegal sometimes just having a super high rate helps reduce the chance they will see LE. And even then, they are more likely to need references and have minimum age requirements lol. You can definitely try Toronto, but you can't just wait until you are in Toronto, you have to do some searching now, contact the sps, provide the information they want from you to screen you, and then wait to be selected (or not). This is not a pickup joint or bar, and what works for someone in that situation is quite different. It is a fairly common misconception that the clients only have to show up with cash to get whatever they want. Read the recommendation section, and the advertisements, and the websites, and especially the Etiquette pages on websites. You are a university student so I expect you to know how to do proper research and studying before you 'take a test' of contacting an sp lol.

Doesn't the word cheat imply that there is deception? In that case, if you are deceiving your SO in order to see an escort, then it is cheating. Remember also you are spending shared income on an sp. I know people have their own money, etc etc, and one is not necessarily dependent on the other, but if the sex part doesn't matter then lying about where the money is going could be considered another way of cheating. There may be different moralities involved, which I agree with another poster, don't bother me, nor do they concern me. I don't put that same requirement on people, in other words to stay faithful sexually. There are many ways to stay faithful, just as there are many ways to be unfaithful. You can neglect your SO in ways that cause far more damage to their self esteem and happiness than just not having sex with them. It is quite a cycle.

I guess re: exclusivity, then I do think that higher rate does equate to more exclusive. Higher rates tend to be used by someone with the 2 hour minimum, and she will likely see one client a day, and beyond that a handful of clients, if that, in a week. maybe a few clients per month, even. I mean if someone does charge 500/hr with a 2 hour minimum, chances are she doesn't need many clients to do very well. And to be honest the ladies who do charge more, tend to attract the clients who are not booking half hours, but more often 3 hour, 6 hour, over nighters, etc, many thousands of dollars from one client for one appt, and that same client may see her a few times a month. Getting an appt with such an sp has to be very very difficult. For one thing, can he provide 2 references? And is part of that 1000-2000 going to have to go towards seeing two other sps so that he can get the required references lol So if the OP wants "exclusive' I think what he is going to encounter is someone who he may not ever actually qualify to get an appt with. He is probably going to be too young for the minimum age that so many less available escorts have. He may have expectations that she is not actually offering. someone mentioned PSE, which is in other words the sps who do offer the non stop sexual activity for the duration of a session. An exclusive high rate courtesan type can probably do that, but I'd think the majority of her clientele is not looking for that. They are looking to show her off at dinner, and while there will be fun time, that isn't what the majority of the time with her is going to be about.