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Is using BP a good way to find escorts?
fortunateone replied to websurfer's topic in General Discussion Area - all of Canada
This is only for SWs afaik. So they target both clients and sps in their efforts. Edmonton prefers to have the sps indoors, so makes it less comfortable for them to work outdoors. They promote city bylaw mp licenses so sps tend to work in mps more so than even independently. If they are indy, they (still no risk to you) can face fines for working without a license (unless they buy an indy license). -
When you go all bald, it means you control the look, not your hair. I think amongst women, we can respect that. So you don't appear like a balding guy unhappy with the fact, you look like a take charge owning it kind of guy who won't let that look (bare on top with hair on the sides) define you. That's projects a sexy attitude. :)
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Questions to SP/MA, real life?
fortunateone replied to Frank7's topic in General Discussion Area - all of Canada
And yet, it goes on and on and on lol. To the OP, I think it is clear that you are trying to dismiss the reaction your original post, and subsequent ones, set off lol. Please don't do that, because it makes the first set of questions even more offensive! People have pointed out respectfully it is inappropriate, and we see a justification People have become a bit more forceful in pointing it out again, and we see even more in the way of an excuse. Finally a few people have said 'don't do it, it's rude' and more, and we get an example of how much information one poor sp gave out accidentally and your assurance (Thankfully!) that you aren't planning to share that info here! Ack! What were you thinking!? You may not have a problem being asked personal questions, but believe me a good number of clients really do have a problem with that. They find that sps who ask where they work, if they are married, how many kids, and so on are sps they will neither answer nor repeat with. These sps did not understand the first rule of sp/client relations: do not pry because it ain't your business. -
Yes, they put a stay on the law, for a year, and that doesn't expire until March 2013 I believe. So the laws are still the laws. I think one of the laws (affecting non-exploitive paid relationships ?) has expired so it may be legal to pay security/drivers. I can't imagine why the police officer would say go read the laws, when they are clearly giving out wrong information. But it doesn't surprise me. The whole point of the challenge was that there was absolutely NO way for any sp to work out of any location where she was the one in it and clients come to her. Even in a hotel room. Heck if a client sees multiple sps in his own residence, there is a chance he too could face charges of bawdy house. (habitual use? lol ) IT doesn't even make sense that LE advice would even suggest that providing multiple appts (and far more likely to see far more appts) in a hotel room wouldn't make that room a bawdy house under the law. It isn't any different at all for an sp to provide at an mp (place of business in private rooms) than a hotel room (private rooms) But if that is the sort of advice the police give out, then definitely carry on because at least you know they won't investigate and lay charges. It goes a long way to helping me understand why so many sps in Ontario think that it is OK to rent hotel rooms rather than use their own residence or rent an actual apartment (far less costly, and far easier to work more efficiently and safely). It's practically unheard of here for indy sps to run around booking hotel rooms to the extent they do in say Toronto, which often makes it sound like at some hotels there could be 2 dozen different sps in there lol
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How to post a lukewarm review
fortunateone replied to stand on guard's topic in Ottawa Discussion - Escorts
Maybe shortening the word to reco makes people forget what the word is: recommendation. If you are posting something it means you are recommending her based on your own criteria, whatever it is. If by 'lukewarm' you mean you would not recommend her based on that criteria, then you shouldn't post anything at all. Isn't it awkward when the sp asks for a recommendation (before or after, btw?), and the client feels obligated, or 'deer in headlights' response? What does she do if he says yes, but it is never posted? What if he says no? Please don't feel forced or obligated to write something for anyone if you aren't feeling the love lol :) -
I would say the risks are minimal compared to the number of sps who do outcalls and get ripped off in some way, or assaulted. The examples you give are really isolated incidents. Reminds me of those Urban Legends, everyone knows a story like this. Does it happen? Not nearly as often as some would believe, or spread the rumours. In over a decade, I've met only two people who have had something like this happen. One of those guys has seen literally hundreds of different sps, all of whom advertise on CL or BP or other free ad sites. Oh wait, I'm one of those terrible awful rip off high risk bp advertisers who will only offer private incalls, never at a hotel/motel. So maybe don't listen to a word I say on this matter. :D
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Questions to SP/MA, real life?
fortunateone replied to Frank7's topic in General Discussion Area - all of Canada
At your job, your clients know your real name and where you work, and possibly assume the area you live in, and if they see you at the mall with your kids, they know they can come up to you and say hello. Completely different. It's ok, but if you cannot see this difference, I cannot help you see it. -
Questions to SP/MA, real life?
fortunateone replied to Frank7's topic in General Discussion Area - all of Canada
^^ but unlike whether or not I like Italian food, you are actually asking me how many kids I have and if I am single or not. I would suggest that these are not 'broad' questions, they are very specific questions, with very specific answers that reveal a lot about sps, who are here with a lot of other info about themselves. If you asked the same kind of questions to the guys, instead of the sps, it would be different. It may be hard to explain to someone if they don't already understand this difference tho lol -
Questions to SP/MA, real life?
fortunateone replied to Frank7's topic in General Discussion Area - all of Canada
I'm going to have to say, OP, that for a guy who thinks the client needs to tell an sp to not contact him first, these questions seem also a bit out of touch. I hope that you understand that we expect you respect her private life by simply not asking, nor asking other sps about their lives. In fact we shouldn't have to ask you not to. When it comes to privacy and discretion, the requirement goes both ways. Don't ask, and she won't have to come up with some kind of cover story to protect her own privacy.. -
I would say he shouldn't have to do anything like this. The sp is already supposed to know all this. Barring any technological delay in her sending the text and it being received, the OP's privacy here has been seriously violated. The sp has proven herself to be seriously indiscreet, and probably just lost a repeat client. She has shown herself to be a bit clueless as well as to how to be a professional. I hope she does read this and knows that it is about her. In fact, I hope that other sps who think this is a normal or OK thing to do read it and believe it is about them. The only way any sp can send out random texts or emails is ONLY with the client's prior permission, or in reply (within a reasonable amount of time with text or phone calls, more flexible with emails) to first contact.
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Me too lol. Out here people can watch on local cable or go to WHL games. Not sure how far out east that kind of league goes, but usually these guys are younger players possible NHL future players. http://www.whl.ca/
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They could actually be independent yet work out of a spa. I've known a couple who offered incalls by renting space at an mp and paying the management their standard room fee. I kind of assume if the individual is posting ads for herself, that is still a level of independence, versus the business posting ads for their spa. It still gives you the client the opportunity to deal directly with the MA. I would assume she would be up front about her incall arrangements knowing she isn't offering a private location?
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Q about Ottawa mongering culture
fortunateone replied to sn69's topic in Ottawa Discussion - Escorts
I'd recommend half hour sessions, if available, rather than the hour. Sometimes it is better to establish the ground rules with the specific sp, not what someone else is promising on her behalf, and also, find out if she is even interested in that style of service. There are many different styles, and you sound like you want PSE (little or no breaks in the action) not GFE (slower paced, less likely to be genital focused non-stop activity). You have to decide what you are looking for, and then make sure you don't end up booking an appt with someone who doesn't provide it lol. The best way to get a good match is to not go thru a 3rd party booking system, but deal directly with the sps themselves. Because agencies are not legally permitted to offer the services of sps, they shouldn't be discussing or advertising actual sexual services with anyone. -
Can You Be Friends With A SP/Client
fortunateone replied to roamingguy's topic in General Discussion Area - all of Canada
Now that is a good point. I often say you can be friendly, and be on great terms with someone, but they aren't necessarily your 'friends' by standard thick or thin definition. It is at heart a business relationship, and even in other businesses people may chat about a bunch of different things, or even have coffee and lunch, at the end of the day it is about maintaining the business relatioship even if you do have a lot in common. My friends know where I was born, where I grew up, the schools I attended, my real name, met my parents, met my syblings or other relatives (not all the time, but when it is possible), know where I live, and so on. They can see me without hair/makeup done, and without expectations of sexual favours being included with any meetings. They will continue to see me after I quit being an sp. Sometimes the mention of money is said like it is a bad thing. Without that exchange, keep in mind you never would have met in the first place. It shouldn't be the thing that measures if a friend is a friend or not, but rather the other things that really define what a real friendship is. -
what to do with my Sooks
fortunateone replied to Serena Blake's topic in General Discussion Area - all of Canada
I think a number of sps have pets in their hotel room or incall. You only have to be sure that you are in a pet friendly hotel and that you tell the clients so they have the choice if they are allergic. -
I love anklets, and still wear one from time to time. I used to have a few, but those seem to be lost but I do have one in silver with abalone which I like to put on in the summer time to make up for it being too hot for stockings. I also used to wear toe rings quite often, but those I definitely cannot find now. My reasoning was more to do with free spirit Celtic hippy vibe.
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Have you considered a day rate, rather than a full day rate? If you are not going to be there overnight, check out what they offer for part of the day. It isn't that unusual.
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You may find them available at an std clinic, along with free condoms and lube. You can also use a condom by cutting it in half (lengthwise). (using the lube first actually helps the thing stay in place and if it is a warming lube, it adds more sensations).
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Gifts for those who have everything.
fortunateone replied to Meg O'Ryan's topic in General Discussion Area - all of Canada
I think this is a good idea. I always cut off buying gifts for the kids at a certain age, and haven't bought anything for my brothers since they started having kids. I don't need anything, and they don't need anything. I don't see anything wrong with folks just getting together for the Xmas dinner and leave it at that. Maybe it is more fun to open presents, but if instead everyone brings something different for the dinner, that could also be fun. -
You just have to go and claim the profile, and then you can change it to be correct. Or contact by email (address might be support @ NR, but it is on the site), provide a link to the profile and tell them you want it removed. Although they are very quick to remove these things, they have zero intention of stopping it from happening. Normally, the profiles that are not created by the sps themselves are posted by reviewers who are required to create a profile in order to post a review. As far as reposting your pics, etc, which happens, it isn't even a grey area legally they have no rights to publish your photos without your consent, but again, they have no intention of changing this on what otherwise is a half decent site. Obviously, since you are getting contacted because of the profile on it lol
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Exclusivity and Jealousy?
fortunateone replied to JennDDD's topic in General Discussion Area - all of Canada
I only provide my kind of session, and it makes sense that clients who are interested in other styles are going to see other sps. Sometimes (with regulars) they will only see me, because I provide exactly what they want (and they don't want the uncertainty of visiting other sps that might give the results described above. There is a bit of trial and error in finding sps, you can't possibly expect each and every one of them to be right for you. Even when they are doing their best, they still might not be your cup of tea. Even if I haven't met someone, if they approached me in the right way, and were looking for something I didn't feel was available from me, I'd recommend someone else. I'm not going to throw out a name tho if I didn't think he would be someone I would see. -
I think the further point is that he isn't looking for someone who provides bbbjs, etc, and will put a condom on it and give him a cbj. He is just looking for someone who is ALWAYS safe, which in this biz refers to risk reduction, and possibly that more than just safe GFE (cbjs, with kissing and daty), she actually doesn't kiss and doesn't do uncovered oral (including does not do uncovered daty) Let's try to find him someone who is actually non-GFE, rather than debate about how healthy bbbjs really are or what she may or may not do in her private life. We are, at this time, only interested in what she is providing in her business life lol
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Is using BP a good way to find escorts?
fortunateone replied to websurfer's topic in General Discussion Area - all of Canada
I think it's been discussed before, and very recently. bp is like any other ad site. You can't automatically assume all ads are fake, or that all rates are cheap. Any savvy business minded sp is going to use any and all advertising sites that work, and bp is known by far more people and covers far more territory (and countries) than many other sites. It is a paid site, not free, so keep in mind also that the person choosing to advertise there has spent money to do it. Even so, you don't assume the advertising site itself is vetting or checking the sps for your safety, or even being a good match. If rates are the issue, believe me there are sps advertising on this site who have rates in all ranges as well. We don't assume that the lower rate advertisers here are scammers, but we assume that and worse about bp advertisers. Even when many of the advertisers here (or similar sites) use bp to advertise on a regular basis, we are still all lumped together by both clients and sps who are too good for it I guess. And yet everyone seems to know what quality of advertiser is on it, and how risky it must be to use it, even tho no one actually uses it? But check this out: two years (or so ago), all of these kinds of comments and threads discussed CL (erotic services ads). At that time, bp was never mentioned as such a lowbrow advertising site. You'd think if it was a bad site for ads, that it would have always been a bad site for ads. But it wasn't, it's only since there's been no CL that all the advertisers are bad? Doesn't make sense to me. -
Help...vegetarians who eat fish
fortunateone replied to Meg O'Ryan's topic in General Discussion Area - all of Canada
I don't think you have to get too fancy when it comes to fish. Stuff it with butter, wrap in foil, and put on a pan in the oven with the turkey or after the turkey is out. It will just be a smaller piece. Fish to me is best when just natural. I think it is nice that you are making an effort to provide something for her. I kind of get tired of that vegetarians can just 'load up' on veggies lol.