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This is pretty darn great. Congrats for sure.

I deliberately leave out this info and require someone to phone (not text, not email, not pm) for rates/services. It's my way to screen. However, consider there are a lot of ad sites that do not allow advertisers to post rates and services, and they will only have that on their website or thru email. If you read the ad entirely, and there is no 2nd option, then they must be expecting rate enquiries. There are also some ad sites that don't allow links. It is confusing because some ads will have them but many will not, making you wonder what's going on lol. If they provide an email contact, try that because they are probably letting you know that they will send you a website link.

Oh my! That was sooo hilarious.

The biggest problem with the birthday discount expectation, is it often comes on the very first visit. Keep in mind that seeing sps/mps is a way clients treat themselves, and doing this is something many people do on special occasions.

Referring back to Vanguard's post where he actually asked about substance abuse and pimps, the key here if first contact or first visit, is refrain from questions that only have one answer, true or not true. If someone is indy, or they work in a hidden brothel and don't want you to know others will be there at the same time, or they do indeed have a pimp, the answer to the question is NO. True or not, no one is going to say yes, they have a pimp. If someone is using drugs, they will say no they don't if asked. One thing callers rarely ask me is if I drink excessively. To me a drunk is probably just as likely to make poor judgment calls, or flake out on appts, or any number of things. A drug addict might be a highly functioning one. Who knows. In any case, if asked the answer will be no, they don't do drugs, or get high or whatever. Don't ask "Are you clean?". I am not sure what that is supposed to even mean, and in any case, no matter who you talk to and what they do or do not have, the answer will always be "Yes". And if you call me, you will hear me ask you "Are you?" , and if your answer is 'yes', you'd best be prepared to tell me when you got tested, the test results, and be ready to bring them with you, because if you do start seeing sps, you need to be tested before you see your first one. :)

Awesome, I am really happy to see you. And love that avatar pic!!

I would say all of the above, plus "Do you live here?" "Can we do it without a condom?" "Is it ok if I _____ (smoke/do some kind of drug/get drunk)?" Some sps live at their incall, some do not, some rent a space from someone who does, etc. In any case, it is not something an sps wants to hear from a new client, as it is already somewhat of a trust issue just providing the incall location in the first place. re: #28, I don't mind if someone leaves their socks on when it's cold outside, but shoes?? ??

I would assume 250/160, because it looks like she is from BC, which is why the rates are lower there? (Can't think of any other reason, because for Vancouver, the rates shown for all the other cities would be perfectly reasonable) Since you are in MB, I'd just take the rates for all points east of BC, and assume that would be your rate. (And keep an extra 50 in smaller bills just in case)

Part of my 'thing' is to be wearing stockings and heels, normally thru beginning to end of an appt. (I do make exceptions for warmer weather, and for those clients who really don't want them, or those who prefer pantyhose... :) ) Mine aren't really fancy tho I do get fishnet for sure, and the main preference seems to be for black, not beige. Normally stayups, but more recently decided to go with garter and stockings, as the stayups have always been troublesome in their desire to not stay up. I like them. I think it is often what sets the sp (or mp) apart from the civilians (wherever they may be from) or the ones with a routine of accompanied shower which while it might be fun, jumps into the action far too quickly and without finesse. Stockings create that finesse, imo.

Because I don't care for confrontation, I always provide full info in the phone call about what I expect and the most they can expect. However, I am phone call only, and there will be no excuse tolerated for info given at 2pm, arrival at 2:30 pm, and arriving short of sufficient funds lol. What gets me is that the ads say location, age and stats, but one of those things is often the first question they ask. I prefer knowing that someone contacting a mature provider is very well aware of that before dialing the #, to save us both time if they are suddenly surprised I am not 25. Conversations are always good, and always legal, so rather than allow anyone to assume they know what my rates/services are, I will always tell them right up front. I don't want them mistaking those things for someone else's any more than I want them to mistake my mature ad for the 25 year old's ad.

I think this is a very good comment. A lot of sps are non confrontational, and possibly too polite and/or just find it awkward to have to say 'time's up", even if they would like to. What with reviews, and so on, they may have in the back of their mind 'what will happen if I say something, even if I am right", and then choose to not say anything. It is helpful to figure out the clues when the sp considers time is not just up, but even the allowed overtime is up. One clue is she is fully dressed, with coat and boots on and standing by the front door waiting for the client to get up off the bed, get dressed and get to the door too lol. (not all that in the summer time tho, just typing that makes me hot, and not in a good way) :)

I don't think, if the review is an attempt to mislead others, that ignorance is bliss at all. She might end up going home in tears night after night wondering why she is being propositioned, or worse, poked and prodded and intimidated to provide those extras. Allowing her to know about it, she was able to have it removed and hopefully spare her from these situations.

Anything latin, Ricky Martin's Pegate Romeo with Usher "Prometame" tho I would not say no to being able to "move like Jagger".

I didn't read back, but why don't you simply make it easy, and offer a non-FS session option all the time? You'd be surprised how many and how often people are not able to commit to FS, yet want to see sps as sps do tend to do more than massage only providers (by massage 'only" I mean the hj finish and often no nudity/touching included). There is quite a market for the GFE non-FS for those clients who are unable (or unwilling to try FS) yet enjoy many aspects of the GFE and/or sensual massage. If it was always on the menu, then on your 'off' days, all you have to say in your ads and phone calls to set up appts is that you are only offering Non-FS sessions today (and/or however many days). For myself if I only ever offered one type of service at that service rate, I wouldn't know at least 40% of my repeat clients because they never would have come to see me. Learn to do sensual massage and slow tease/denial/arousal, and you will gain clients for life, believe me.

I accept it because I handle it often, but for someone who does not, it could be hard for them to know how to spot the fakes. Always ask before arrival, in any case. Even tho you might lost a few points taking it back to the bank, I would give this piece of advice too. If the exchange rate is in our favour or not, I don't accept US at par. If we are even or even getting a little less Cdn back, I would expect to get more US than Cdn. If my rate for something were 120, and the bank rate is pretty much even, I would accept 125-130 US to be equivalent. I would not accept 120 US alone. But that's just because I am usually up on the rates, and the diff between buy and sell, and might be able to use it if I don't convert it. Sometimes I have no US trips, and would have to convert it and the bank rate swings against me, meaning when I take it in that 125 becomes 119 lol

Yes, I would be surprised if there is ever a time he is truly ready. For one thing, has he ever spoken directly with you, aubrey? Is it all via email and pms? Are we sure he is a real boy, in other words, or someone attempting to mess with your schedule for reasons of their own? After many years, I still get the same phone#s showing up from people who have never either booked or showed for appts with me. I have probably 30 (the limit on my blocking) blocked from reaching me ever. But their MO is just like this one, once they figure out that they are on 3 strikes, they commit. But they will ask for something ridiculous, that will result in you saying no so they can then start it all over again because it wasnt' them who no showed or canceled, it was you. For some I answered the phone with a short statement like "so are you calling to make that appt now? No? Ok, call me back when you are." pause while they try to ask something "No, I've given you that many times, it hasn't changed. bye now"

I don't think you need a monthly follow up. If you plan to use an sp as a reference, and your contact has been email, then save your confirmation/last date email exchange with that sp. Go find it when you need a reference, and send your request as a reply. All of the info about dates, times, who you are, etc will be within that email, which should serve as a reminder as to who you are (her own replies will show that she saw you). After an appt, you may wish to follow up with an email thanking her for her time and ask if she is reference friendly if needed. When you do contact her again, give her to time to reply to agree to serve as your reference. Keep in mind some won't reply or agree or may just not reply to the sp asking, for whatever reason, so it is a good idea to always have 2 prepared. Once you get that cleared up, provide her with the name of the escort (s) that you are planning to contact so she knows to expect request only from those sps.

I was getting thankyous in my profile, but never reciprocating with my own thank yous and started to kind of feel bad about that. But after a while, it would be super hard to keep up, and where would it end? Thank you for the rep and thank you for the thank you and so on and so forth. This would be a good thread to just send out the blanket thankyou for everyone who appreciates my posts enough to click nominate or rep me.

I can see they mentioned trafficking and exploitation, I do think there have been a number of cases where the European ladies come to Canada to work (domestic or similar) and find themselves either in a club or a illegal brothel. I guess if they eliminate the visa, then it can't be used for that reason. I wonder also how much of this is related to the change of laws? If someone is here on an adult entertainment visa, it would be hard to say they can't do sex work in a legal brothel.

There is something to be said for experience yes. Of course there are exceptions, but I think you may have the idea here. One thing at that age, they can't have been working independently for long, I imagine. Running this as a business professional is often learned by trial and error, and someone who starts off at an older age may have a better idea. I think, tho, that you could easily jump from considering only someone 20 and move to seeing someone 23 and up and that youthfulness is not going to be lost. The other thing is to find a plan B, not in setting up a 2nd appt in case the first one fails. More like finding out is there anyone else you can call if you get a no show that is available on short notice or appears to be agreeable to short notice appts. You won't have a lot of time to move to plan B, so you check shedules and contact methods about a handlful of 'alternatives'. If you rent a hotel room then most definitely you would want to consider this. I'm not saying that the next time it will be Strike 3, because it might all work out. For myself, I want everyone who sets up a time in advance to call to confirm when they are actually ready to head out. For you that would be a phone call 2 hours ahead of time. If you don't reach me, or I don't call you back within a half hour, you would assume from our prior conversations something came up and I am no longer available. For me, if I can't call back within that short time, I am most likely not here. something came up to take me away (usually my other work) (I don't do prebooked appts, so for me nothing is set up until the confirming call). Now if you have a plan B, then you may still be on your way but you would have called 3 other sps in my area with similar style to see if they will be around. YOu may even decide to call me again when closer, and this time reach me. In any case, you will have pre planned 4 options that you find agreeable, one will come thru I believe.

You can try flagging as prohibited as well as simply contact bp support dept directly. I have to say I am not sure that they prohibit these kind of ads the way CL used to. There seem to be no problem with other escort ad sites using links in their ads on bp as well, so not sure they have a problem with a non-escort ad in the escort section. Should be in the adult entertainment section, imo.

I put this in a rep, but this was what I was saying about this: It isn't necessarily a negotiation, but an assumption that the 15 minute rate (which I don't offer, or I would have mentioned it to the caller) should cost half of the half hour rate. Where does he get that idea, I wonder. The half hour rate is rarely half of the hourly rate, so why would a 15 minute session cost only half of that, remembering this is a FS session he is looking for. I pointed out to a recent caller that most of the 15 minute rates I have seen only deduct about 20-30 off the sp's half hour rate, depending on where that half hour rate starts at. If 120, a 15 might be 100. If 150, it might be 100. It will never be 60 if it starts at 120. > Most callers assume any advertised 15 minute session is for FS. I have seen in different cities where the sp's do not assume it will be for FS, and chaos and hard feelings abound lol. I don't offer it, tho I do have the rare client who can be in and out in 15 minutes. They don't expect or request a discount or a 15 minute rate. It is, in the end, their choice to leave early or to approach their session in a way that will have fast results.

I think I prefer it to the pursed lip pose (usually in celphone/bathroom mirror shots) maybe it is to make a change from that one?

So true. And just to be clear, my response about how I do things has nothing whatsoever to do with how other sps do things, only to point out to him that the comment that I do not screen is inaccurate. For me, what I do works for me. But this is testament to the very real fact that the majority of clients and callers are really terrific human beings. The fact that it is so easy, with just a phone call, to avoid the lowlifes and scammers and aggressively rude, among other things, is due to that fact. When you have spoken with and spent time with so many genuinely nice people, you get to know the difference when you are talking to someone who is none of those things. The other issue is someone who arrives and thinks the sp offers and charges something other than what she does. My simple phone call method assures both of us that he cannot have any misconceptions about any of that. This communication goes a long way to making a good match as well. But let's face it, I am not traveling to appointments, so if the person is sincere or not does not matter. I am not out of time or out of pocket to find out. I am not renting hotel rooms to do incalls. So if the person is not sincere, it does not matter because again I am not incurring expenses for someone who has no intention of showing up. If I did you bet the clients would be contacting me with one week notice and providing all kinds of references and information. But as for someone being a real danger? Not sure, because really, they don't make it past my lame screening I guess, so I have never dealt with someone like that. :D