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In use, as Whisper Jackie (edmonton I think). I think Gretchen could actually work, it was in that list of unlikely names. Also Ursula, as in Ursula Andress, former Sean Connery Bond Girl. On topic, I think any new sp using an in use name should appreciate a phone call about it. And it is annoying to see new sps not check current ads, to see if the name they would like to use is already being used in ads. It isn't the smartest business decision to go with a name that is very common, or where the only other one using it is your direct opposite. It is quite a bit worse if the person is similar in looks, but different services, rates and location. There used to be someone using the same name, who superficially had the same kind of hair etc, as me but she is a good 10 years younger and boobier than I am, so I was left wondering why she would set herself up to be confused with someone older and less fit, when with a different name no one would view her ad and think she was me? Not saying it is a bad thing to be confused as me, but for a guy who was looking for a younger, fitter, bustier version of me, they aren't going to call her up if they think they are looking at an ad for me, who they've already seen.

I always think writing a note (email or pm) is ok to get in touch with someone but just can't be suitable for a same day arrangement (if the sp has a phone #, the best way of finding out if it is possible or not is to talk to her asap, not hope she's checking and reading notes). If its for tomorrow, next week, next month, whatever it is always a good idea to include what day and time of day you are interested in in order to get an informed response. I know some sps log into their ad sites and forums in the morning and don't log out (might get timed out but they don't log out). Doesn't mean she's anywhere near her inbox, just because it shows her online. Personally I log into a local ad site at night to set up the morning ad, so I look like I'm online all night long. Believe me, try sending me amessage at 3AM and see how far you get with that lol.

This would be the number one drawback, and I would always imagine this would be one of a couple of reasons why they want to use a CC. If they need to use a CC to pay for this activity, I am thinking they shouldn't be doing it. I would simply advise them that if they need money from their CC to pay the donation, they should take a cash advance. There are dozens of good reasons this is a cash only biz lol. Another thing to consider is CC fraud. It is extremely common. In my other work, I process orders etc on an online shopping site as well as a wholesale site. The fraudsters (usually in Africa or the UK or similar) place orders using the CC. They beleive the processi s automatic, and that the CC will be charged and the item shipped out. for security reasons, and because we mostly do wholesale where it isn't guaranteed all items ordered are ready to ship, all processing is done off the site. So, it is possible to verify ownership of the CC. The one providing the #, has to be able to provide address, the 3 digit # on the back as well. The fraudster wants the item shipped to them, so the address doesn't match. They don't have the # on the back of the card, so that doesn't match. The truly dumb ones provide their own phone #s. MC and Visa have phone #s where you can verify and check the info given with the info on file. If it matches, you could process the payment. But I would say that still gives the legit carholder an out to chargeback, and chargebacks if you accept CCs are really prohibitive from CC companies. Plus there are fees to maintain the service, possibly around 50/month, and transaction fees (usally a percentage of the total). Plus, it is not available to everyone, you would need to be a registered business with a business account etc. There may be some online 3rd party processing companies that would provide protection for both parties, but yoiu know who wants to get into a he said she said with adult services, if he decides to try to get his money back then where are you.

^^ I kind see what you mean re: clutter. My best advice if the incall is personal space (or even just an incall apt apart from her residence), that the client is not looking at family photos, the dog dish, an assortment of shoes in the hallway, or anything of a personal non-decorative nature. My incall space is a separate area from living quarters, and is decorated with an interesting multicultural items that can on their own generate comments. Better that than having to discuss the number of syblings or the name of my cat (ok, I have not cat, but you know what I mean). Bathroom also is clutter free. Visitors have no need to see my hair products, makeup, toothbrush, or face creams. Nor do most men like clutter, or knocking stuff over on the bathroom counter, or in the shower. I think that is why many may prefer the anonymity of a hotel room as well.

Yep, and I'm white, blonde and english background, but discriminated thru life for being female. People are judgmental, make assumptions, and so on, and the best revenge is being happy with who you are and what you have achieved thru your own actions.

I agree. To the OP, I would say to all clients, if or when the idea ever crosses your mind, nip it in the bud and keep your mouth shut. The ones who ask make all kinds of assumptions about sps, including that she is single, that she is lonely, that she is doing this biz because she is looking for a new BF, that she is a nymphomaniac, etc etc. Puts her in an awkward spot of trying to diplomatically turn the guy down without offending or hurting his feelings, and in a way to keep him as a client. I think this is the worst possible way to try to meet women to date, fwiw lol.

I can't help feeling many sps agree to a drink or glass because they don't wish to offend the client. But consider, if each client brings a bottle and she has 1-2 with each, and sees 3 clients in the day, that is a lot of alcohol just to be polite and seem accomodating lol. If asked I say I don't drink to discourage them bringing anything. If they bring without asking, I will pour them a half glass if they say they do want one. I in no way will allow them to drink a full glass, or more, then leave my place to drive. imo, even one is one too many, for someone driving away within an hour of arrival! Also, there are a small number of guys who will mess with the drinks, that simply having one single policy of NO thanks covers every situation. That way no one will write a reco or review talking about sharing a glass of wine, which the next guy says hey, she refused to share one with me. One size fits all lol. To me (and numerous scientific studies) alcohol and sexual performance do NOT mix. It can lead to ED in fact, or situational ED, could result in no orgasm at all, bad bad idea for a sexy time encounter, isn't it? There are other ways to get relaxed, more in tune with the body and mind, imo, like sensual massage. And for sps, I think any alcohol can result in too much, and that could lead to making bad decisions. Not to say every time, but there are ways to make clients comfortable and happy without agreeing to drink. There aren't too many other jobs out there where drinking is expected and/or common, so I don't really see any reason why this one should automatically be assumed to be part of it. However, I would say that if someone is on a longer date, a dinner date, that a glass with a meal would not be out of the ordinary. I would expect, if others are like me, we don't chow down half hour before an appt, and it is very likely we meet people on a fairly empty stomache. Having even a half glass of wine on an empty stomache will go right to the head, clouding judgement and/or distracting. More than that might lead to a talk with the toilet lol.

I don't think that people you hang out with casually at a bar are necessarily friends. I also don't think that you necessarily should feel compelled to invite everyone over to your place to hang out either lol. I don't see anything wrong with you going to the pub, hangout and socialize just like any other working stiff, and go home on your own. Maybe you get invited to someone else's place, but I don't think you should overly worry about having people at your place if the phone rings. Just don't invite them!! And if you are out and want to be out for a rest from work, don't answer your phone when you are around people! Just leave a message on there that asks someone to call you back tomorrow, and give yourself a night off. If however you are trying to work and go out and socialize and do it all at once, then you will have to leave the (noisy) room to answer the phone. If you then come back to the bar and say you have to leave, I doubt if anyone is going to think twice about it since they know you just had a phone call. I don't see any good reason to tell anyone at this level of "friendship" anything about yourself. But also, it is always a danger of running into a client now and then, wherever you might end up. The trouble if you encounter them in a bar, where you might seem to be into having fun and hanging out, is they will want to go beyond client/sp status and be your BFF. And that could lead to trouble if you don't handle it right, and they get a little drunk into them then decide to tell everyone. Always best to hang out at a place you are unlikely to run into someone you know from "work" lol. I've run into someone I know at a flea market that is literally a 40 minute drive from my place, which is located about 8 blocks from that client's home. I have never run into him here, but managed to run into him there. What's the odds of that?

Soap and water. Rinse, repeat, rinse again. Never ever return from the bathroom after a pee, not using soap and water to even wash your hads, and expect any action whatsoever. Also, give and ye shall receive. What have you done, non-sexually speaking, for her lately? Do you clean up after yourself, make dinner, reduce her at home work load at all, are you more work than a kid? Do you ever just give her some affection without expecting or suggesting it lead to more right now? Date nights? Demands and expectations without reciprocation never go down well with women. They keep a list, and everytime you disrespect them, hurt their feelings, fail to deliver on a promise, a black mark is put down against you. If the marks against you outweigh the marks for you, you get nothing. If the marks of approval outbalance the marks against you, you get rewards. Women are very simple lol. Don't expect a bj if you smell stinky. Assume at all times that you smell stinky, and always wash, rinse and repeat until no one can ever say you smell stinky, and once she has the trust that you don't stink, she will be less reluctant to go there.

It usually would only get to a "demanding" stage if they guy is not respecting her policy of payment before the appt and is trying to argue the fact. Also your point about having seen the sp before, so she is ok with post payment doesn't fly if your point is that she required it on your first visits. It means your point that there is something wrong with sps who require it, but now that you've seen one two or three times, somehow there is suddenly nothing "wrong" with them? Also, I didn't hear your reply. Of those who do take payment after the fact, do you or do you not shortchange them on the agreed fee, when they do not perform to your satisfaction? And if each and everyone of them did provide what you expected, does that somehow confirm your accusation that they would not have if you had paid up front? Can you not just assume they would have done the same regardless? Just as the ones you prepay and revisit did, why assume the worst of each and everyone who requires prepayment? And, what doctor takes your payment after the visit? Do you not have a medical plan, that is guaranteed payment. sps have no such guarantee. I've been without insurance before, and I guarantee the office collects the appt fee before you get to see the doctor. Fill a prescription, they know what you are expecting, but won't give it to you until you pay. Your mechanic? I've bought cars from mechanics before, they kept them in lieu of payment by the person bringing it in for repair and sell them to recoup the repair costs. Lawyers bill you for what they do during and after you see them, they cannot possibly know what the rate will be before performance. I've seen numerous examples of hiring a lawyer, and the quick way is when they say "give me a dollar" and voila the person has a lawyer at their disposal. As mentioned above, lawyers require a retainer. Big or small, you pay a portion up front when they are not agreeing to a contingency type arrangement. You visit an sp for an hour, she has a rate for the hour, regardless of what does or does not happen, so you know going in what the final total is. And I still find it offensive when anyone lumps advertisers on CL, even with the caveat of "some". CL was an advertising site, not an agency with employees they represented. Neither CL nor any other advertising site has anything to do with who chooses to advertise on it. There are many many many examples of professionals and types of work out there where at the very least a deposit, usually non-refundable, is required. These are often cases where time or effort is expended in order for the "job" to be done, regardless of the result or if the client wants to cancel for some reason, they are still paid.

There are a lot of sps who don't want to deal with the advertising, the expense of incalls, maybe they don't have a place, maybe they only want to work 2 days a week, etc etc. It is a great option also for someone starting out, no seed money to set themselves up for sure. Also, as you say, no screening. A lot of sps who are not indy don't know how to screen, don't actually want to deal with that aspect of setting up calls. In a brothel (or massage parlour) setting, they also have the assurance of back up, that the clients know there are others around and the safety (often) of a nearby panic button if needed. They also don't have to deal with ending the appts, or a time check. That is also done for them.

But to me that sounds very manipulative. As in, if she doesnt deliver up to a perceived standard, what do you plan to do? Not pay the agreed upon amount? REally? Or is it simply a carrot on a stick, dangling with her uncertain as to whether you plan to pay or plan to create some kind of excuse for not paying? Do you prefer her to be worried and concerned about whether or not you plan to pay, or short change her now that the session is done and you no longer need her? The encounter was agreed upon for an agreed upon rate. What she does or does not provide, as in what you believed you should have gotten, has nothing to do with that. What you have the right to do at this point is to not repeat. You could also post a review on a review site. But to delay payment on this premise implies that you like to use it as a way to ensure you get what you came for, and the implication of that is very unpleasant.

That's the sort of reply I sometimes give callers, lol. Basically, it isn't up to them to decide what they want to pay, it is up to them to decide if they are willing to pay my rates (or any other sp they contact). It isn't part of my job to listen to their complaints about the rate, and can I do whatever for less. I have a variety of options, non-fs is different than fs, there is a hh, a 45 and an hour. If you can't afford the hour, well it isn't my job to provide the hour for the hh rate for that reason alone. Or because you can go see someone else for that. Go ahead, but remember you called me for a reason. It also isn't my fault that you might have to drive for half an hour to come and see me and need to know if I'm "worth it". Ask the guys who take a ferry to come see me, or drive for 1.5 hours that question, yet they don't expect a discount for their trouble. They simply choose the option that works for their budget, out of the 6 or 7 different rate, service and time combinations that are being offered. The rate negotiator fails to understand that we are not competing with other sps for his $, he is competing with other clients and potential clients for our time. And he is falling short. Why spend time with someone who wants to get a discount, when you can remain free to see someone who will pay the rate you charge.

The study is further flawed regarding age ranges, if you consider that the majority of reviewers will review sps in that age range simply because the majority of reviewers equate who they see with a perceived level of sexual attractiveness and stamina, etc on their own parts. I think you will find that the majority of 40+ sps, or even 35+, are rarely reviewed by anyone. When a reviewer "type" is trying to establish his own street cred, it won't be by showing everyone how he impressed a 40+ year old woman, but how studly he appeared and performed with a 25 year old. So rates as a reflection of age, not so much. This isn't to say that there are not more in that 25 ish age range. There are, oodles more. It just means tho that those who are in the higher age bracket are just as busy, if not more so, than the average 25 year old. There is less competition in that age group, and they do not need there to be as many clients vying for their attention as a 25 year old does. It is interesting as well that they assume that all sps are single, let alone that they have no children or even that they do not work while pregnant. While rare indeed, there always have been pregnant sps lol. And we have no way of telling solely based on a template style review (we will assume it is T E R, since they are the main ones with an imposed numbering system), which of the sps are single, divorced, married, engaged whatever whatever. You'd think part of their study might include actually discussing this with an actual live sp. Having said that, I think it is a fun study and certainly interesting conclusions. I think it would be a good rebuttal for anyone who thinks rates are too high for some sps lol. Now we can cite a study that proves that 25 ish year old sps must charge more, since they are giving up their child bearing years for the benefit of their clients.

No. Simply because it not just sets a paranoid tone to the session, but also what can you possibly expect the answer is going to be? True or false, all answers will be yes, she is sti free. It would be silly to expect any other answer. Also, completely irrelevant, provided you are engaging in protected activities, in any case she (and you) are only as sti free as whatever your last encounter may or may not have exposed you to. But if you are up to asking this question, then you really need to do some more research on health and sexual safety, choose low risk options like hj rather than fs, and if you do wish to go with a bj or fs, see only sps who offer cbj only and have a limited menu (up to and including no digits, no daty). To that extent, you will be more confident of her desire to lower her risk level, which lowers your risk levels.

Again, I'm with AofO, why put yourself (and her) into that position. You without cash, which would easily have been known had she had the very sound biz practise of pay before play. It is all very well to see the sps counter with how much they don't mind, or they are showing trust to their clients, or established rapport and trust, but that is just advertising diplomacy. As a client, you should be prepared, and mindful, and pay up front regardless of what you may or may not think her site says, or she even tells you to your face. She is being diplomatic, imo, not trying to appear stressed or concerned, to break the illusion or fantasy. But the reality is that is it regular and long time clients that most often "forget" to include the correct amount, or assume if they are short that paying a few days later should be "ok", as in they show up knowing they don't have the funds, and there are more examples to be sure. And, as with AofO, I have never once been short changed, paid later, or had the donation "forgotten" and/or had to ask for it at the end, because everything is taken care of before. Why would anyone think that having had a great and relaxing time, to hand over a bunch of cash in or out of an envelope, with that kiss at the end, isn't somehow wrecking the illusion. why not part without that image in your mind as you leave, with luck so much fun has been had that by the time you pay (at the beginning) to the time you leave, the whole concept of paying has left your mind altogether. To be rudely reminded of it at the end, that just seems awkward and obvious lol. But yes, given the examples of the ones who have been shortchanged, and the ones who rely on the client to pay afterward and they don't have the funds, well, yes, I have to stick to my claim that this is a foolish move. In this business. It may be ok or appropriate in other businesses. It may be ok or appropriate if the sp is working at an mp, where it is obvious they have backup, other employees or reception to help them out, but indy and on their own, no, it is imo actually an unprofessional way to deal with clients. It actually makes it more difficult for the pay before sps to deal with clients who get that sort of after play treatment. It allows the predators to seek out the pay after play sps, for the specific purpose of shorting them or leaving without payment. It might be difficult for some to bring up the topic but unless and until you do, and if the client can cooperate as well knowing that these things happen, and just do it that way 100% of the time for all sps, then perhaps she will learn from that and make it her policy. typically the sps who say things are "ok" when they are talking to clients, or publically like this, don't mean it is ok to not have the money on you, to not have come prepared lol. But what other sort of response do you expect? To have them freak out, swear at you, throw things at you, and kick you in the butt on your way out, then call you 15 times until you show up with the funds? I don't think so. Like other things, she will smile, say that's ok, and cross her fingers that you are not "one of those lessons" she had to learn.

I also don't call it money, but just taking care of business. I cannot think of any good reason to delay payment until the end of the session, you know what you are there for, she knows what you are there for, you've agreed on an amount, just pay it and it's done, and carry on. I can't think of anything that highlights more that this is a paid date encounter than after the fact having the guy leave the $$ on the dresser, or in hand lol. Also, to the guys who realize after the fact they arrived without the $$, are you kidding me? And to go thru the entire appt without having checked that you are prepared to pay? Really? Those are the kind of guys that sour sps to this biz, because they get lumped in with the guys who do actually try to take advantage, and do not return with the $$. To me, if you show up and having checked your pocket, the only way to address that is to prepay, and then there are no awkward moments, she doesn't have to worry about getting ripped off after the event, and you don't have to prove you're a good guy by being one of the guys who has full payment on him paid up after the session. In conclusion, the sp who typically accepts payment after the fact is a fool.

Right now the massage parlours have that brothel effect, i.e. the clients come and go, maybe meeting or crossing paths, the sps share their space and workspace, and clients for that matter, and may or may not be in a place that requires them to do a line up (or at least meet the potential client) due to the fact that is pretty much the only way clients can find out anything about them. It is not like seekng an indy, where they connect one to one, and many many workers prefer that set up of going to a 9-5 workplace, and keep these appt setups in the hands of someone else. It isn't unlike any other kind of biz, really. There are some who want to be their own boss, have their own "shop", and there are others who simply want to clock in and out, leave it all behind them when they drive out of the parking lot at the end of the day. In other words, a very few massage parlours are already brothels, as they have the necessary license for sexual activity, even if that activity is limited to hand release. The workers have to get a license, issued by the city, to work there, as well. I think the nice thing about NZ is they have created the options for working for yourself in your own space and working for someone else in a brothel setup. There is a show called "Satisfaction", set in an Australian brothel. Gives you a pretty good idea of the sort of thing described. The clients hang out there, sps wander around in a state of undress to meet and greet. Clients may prebook appts, but showup earlier to have a drink or hang out to meet others, then go to the appt. Or they might show up to meet whoever is there, and decide from there. It looks very open and natural, actually, but both client and sex worker need to be completely comfortable with that level of exposure. This goes hand in hand with it being both legal and regulated tho, that sps can be comfortable in that situation.

Escorts are not necessarily independent, may work for agencies. Courtesans would always be independent, advertising for a specific higher end clientele, looking for longer visits, possibly starting off with dinner dates, weekends, etc, as opposed to the half hour or hour options. In fact, a courtesan probably has a minimum of 3 hours, and also would be unlikely to have a list of services available. Being independent, she is picking and choosing who she sees. An escort may be sent out on a call by an agent, having no part in who she sees or doesn't see. A courtesan would be expected to be a brilliant conversationalist, will most likely be older (at least 25, probably late 20's MINIMUM), and either well educated or able to talk on a variety of subjects at an intellectual level. Also be discrete, well groomed, sophisticated in looks and dress and able to spend time in public without everyone looking at her and saying "yup, that's an sp". An escort may be able to hold a conversation, but typically she doesn't need to be able to do more than speak on more superficial level to be an escort, pass the time, etc. Doesn't mean an escort/sp isn't capable of that level of conversation, stimulation, but primarily she isn't banking nm attracting that wealthy client who is looking for all that. I think the distinctions are subtle, because at the end of the day most everyone says a provider is a provider and that means sexual services, but some of the time the higher end (to use a phrase) are attracting clients that are looking for more companionship than sexual menu items, and it is not unusual for them to only spend social time with sps providing this level. I think Samantha Evans is a good example of a courtesan style provider, for my opinion lol.

It could also be a legal issue. Agencies shouldn't be offering information about sexual services on behalf of an employee, as that leads into the legal area of procuring, living off the avails, etc etc. A smart booker won't give out details like this, making it clear that they are providing you with an sp and sexual services, when it is or should be only within the ability of the sp herself to make that negotiation with you directly. I had actually heard of the unusual practise of one TO agency that took the client call, then contacted the sps directly, who would then call the client back rather than making all the arrangement thru a 3rd party. That was very unusual but brilliant, imo, and imo more agencies should offer that process.

Yes, congrats, and celebrate that so many of them are on point, informative, and illuminating about this business. Thumbs up, and keep it up. ;-)

I guess the main thing is they have to try to defend those specific laws. And you know, if you think about, the laws were put in place at a different time, when basic sex work could be advertised in only a few different ways, and most of that meant going outside. Whether that is advertising thru street work or doing outcalls due to being with an agency, it left little option to advertise to a client who would come to your location. With the advanced technology, ladies need not leave their home, even to place ad ad. If they do, they are linked via celphone for safety, so the comment they go into it knowing it might put them in danger is crapola, since these are the kinds of things that reduce that danger. Even not working for someone else, as in agency work, helps reduce their personal danger, since an independent can control who they see. If their options, as they were in the mid 80s, are work the street or go on calls set up by a 3rd party. Having control over who you see and where you see them is huge for safety reasons. Their argument fails, since it only confirms what is being said. The laws prevent sps from working from home, or in a shared controlled environment. The laws force street and outcall work, and keeps the sps work in the hands of a 3rd party, like an agency as well, since doing that may help keep some security and safety as opposed to outcalls arranged and screened by themselves on their own. Alot of what they say, and how they say, it makes me think they are deliberately trying to lose. They just don't want to back down, as that might look bad for the anti-crowd, but going in with such ludicrous claims makes me think they want to lose the argument. That takes it out of their hands, out of their control for a law change they know is bad news lol.

If you are planning to see the lady at your hotel room, there is no reason to get a cel phone as well. You simply call from the hotel, arrange the appt, she calls you back thru the hotel # to verify you are there anyway. You would always be accessible by the hotel phone so there should be no problem. I can't see you going to the expense of getting a cel phone you can't use (I don't have a cel phone either, doesn't worry me when others don't have one). If you are planning to go to visit her wherever she is, having a cel phone is more convenient, easier if you get lost or need directions along the way. If you don't have references, most sps do have some kind of alternative method to screen you. YOu should be contacting them before your arrival date, in any case, to make sure they are available, have time to screen you to their own satisfaction, and can give you a schedule of their times. Then you call from your hotel room for the confirmation, and by this time you have explained the cel phone situation and between the two of you come up with some kind of alternative plan.

I find it pretty simple to accomodate someone without a cel phone. Being someone who might see a fair number of older fellas, who do not make a hobby of this, but do it more infrequently, if they don't have a cel phone, that is fine. On a first time visit, they will have to call from a nearby payphone for the street address, buzzer and directiions. The apt # they get when they buzz. They can make the appt from the home phone, but I won't give out an address based on that unless their number and they indicate they are already in my neighbourhood. At that point, they could get the address, directions, and buzz#. No one gets the whole enchilada until they are already here. The only reason a cel phone is preferred is because many first time visitors to me get lost for some reason, if they don't follow the directions. There are fewer payphones, but anyone who doesn't have a cel phone is going to be ok with using them. A call an hour or even a half hour ahead from the home phone is also fine, for confirmation. I just don't like someone disappearing for over an hour, not knowing if they are lost, not going to show up, or whatever. Having them call from the payphone works to confirm and not give out the address before you waste too much time. A reasonable amount of time is given for the person to find the payphone,make the call, etc, get stuck in traffic, but realistically if someone estimates they are 20 minutes away from making that call, and 45 minutes pass, no one is waiting for them anymore lol. In the meantime, that person doesn't have my address anyway. The call from the payphone (as shown in the example) used to be the traditional way sps would verify the guy was actually in their area. Some know of a payphone they could see from their window, again to verify the guy showed up. Those were the days when there were payphones aplenty lol. YOu can't fake a known payphone # lol. But celphone guys, they'll set up an appt, then 20-30 minutes later call to say they are at the cross streets, get the address and buzzer, and that's the last you ever hear from them. They aren;t lost, just having a cel phone makes it easier for them to do the address grab, for whatever thrill getting an address gives these dudes. I have yet to figure that one out.

I didn't use to like Sean Connery and at the time preferred Roger Moore, because I'd seen some very old reruns of The Saint and thought he would have been a great Bond, then he was. I'd read a lot of the books by that time, rather than going by the movies. Later I grew to like SC, and he's actually a favourite, in that I'll watch just about anything he appears in now. My all time favorite was Pierce Brosnan. Like him, I was disappointed that he wasn't JB when the idea first came up, but since he was filming the TV show whatever it was he couldn't do the movies. Altho I have to say seeing him as Bond when older in the 90's actually was better than had he done it earlier. He just looked great, enough age to be interesting, enough youth to be charming.