fortunateone

very disturbing. there have been at least a half dozen articles in various places, including that paper, all commenting about her article. Not a peep from her tho. Even organizations typically at war with sex worker advocates all agree on how offensive and disgusting this article is.

ad content is also stolen - i have seen it multiple times. the owners need to contact bp directly, show proof of their ownership of the pics. bp doesn't take kindly to copyright infringement issues, it is against the law to use photos without owner's consent, whoever owns the copyright on those could go thru bp, so bp doesn't play, they will remove the photos. people who would not dip into someone's pocket and steal their money think nothing of stealing creative works, like pics, where that person should be getting paid for the use of their photos. so there is no situation where this is OK

i don't think you can use any sort of oil for condoms, i might be wrong about coconut oil, but i don't use it so not sure. The only lube i have ever been 1000% happy with i have to go to the US version of Dollar tree. when i am out of it, i have tried at least a half dozen other types and brands, and maybe the Life brand basic lube is the next best thing but I doubt it. http://www.dollartree.com/Natureplex-Warm-Touch-Warming-Jelly-2-oz-Tubes/p301218/index.pro

Fortunately, in Victoria & Vancouver, there isn't any plan to do any of this kind of enforcement, and especially regarding discussing services. Even the City of Vancouver recently came up with some policies, that included the fact that if it isn't a bylaw issue, then it isn't their issue lol, which means finding condoms in a massage parlour doesn't mean they will fine it for being a bawdy house or whatever. anyway harm reduction policies in both cities mean that there won't be stings like that, or enforcement of the new laws, and in addition VPD is no longer doing the public solicitation stings/sweeps after being involved in a study to see what the effects would be. it was decided in their policy the harms outweighed the benefits. there are at least 2 cities/areas that seem to plan or have done enforcement claiming it is the new laws, when we know for a fact they would have done the same thing using the old laws. Old laws new name I call it, and 99% of everything they do is put a female LE on the street and wait for someone to solicit. it is impossible for them to arrest that many people if they do this via a bp ad and a hotel room. To the OP, no one ever said that some places would not enforce the public solicitation type of sex work, in fact, especially after the changes, I think many who study the issue would be saying it would be even less desirable in some cities to try to see street workers, because now they have a fancy 'we are stopping exploitation' reason to use.

i was happy to see this followup article after the one that announced the arrests and crackdown the other day. Even in one of them they say there are maybe 3 dozen sps working in the area, it hardly seems reasonable to start the kind of crackdown that is going to push such a small number of survival sex workers further into the shadows, and make them even less likely to ask for help or take offers of help from authorities.

They just have a new name and anew law to make a new excuse for targeting street workers. The fact they cannot under c36 charge the SW with public solicitation doesn't make much difference, they will just set up the stings to snare the clients, which obviously affects the public nuisance of street work. There is a study done in Vancouver where the VPD focused only on clients, as a way to proceed with a new technique and the end result was pretty detrimental to the SWers, not the clients. LE has always had a tool for targeting clients and SWer, the public solicitation law, and they will continue to use the new laws to target the public display of sex work. Dressing it up as 'exploitative clients' is just a ploy to get public sympathy where none is needed, since NIMBY is what the public wants anyway. Anyway the research in Vancouver determined that it increased danger and made the lives of SWers much more difficult and dangerous when their clients are targeted deliberately. VPD & city of Vancouver, not fully based on that study but it did have influence, says there will be no outright enforcement of any c36 laws outside of the exploitation of say illegal or underage sex workers in order to follow their own policy of harm reduction.

they don't say how they found them, if it was fake ads luring them in, or just street sweeps. It is usually street sweeps, so in this case i wonder if they are trying to make it appear they are doing something new, but it is really just the same old thing. the difference, they aren't charging the sps. with the interviews, I know when they do the Northern Light one they contact sps ads, and fake book appts, then show up 2 to 4 of them and kind of intimidate their way in. after that, they do what they call interview & info thing, and what we call bullying and pressure tactics. :)

That's a scam. It's a new one tho. Housekeeping is never going to pound on the door and say 'open up', like that. they don't have to, they would knock, call out "housekeeping', wait a bit then let themselves in assuming no one was there. Always avoid 'hot blond' ads. From what i've read over the years, they are always some kind of scammer. but it is usually them doing an outcall, have to give $ to driver, and they all drive off.

There isn't anything in those charges to indicate these people were up to no good, At best, they could be facing charges because they were running an escort agency with an incall location, in a way that sps were benefiting from. Last week a woman was sentenced to 5.5 years in Alaska for 'trafficking' charges, a former sex worker herself, she ran a booking/screening service for sps, for their safety. No one coerced, forced, or threatened. If these charges are not accompanied by referenced to trafficking, coercion or references to underagers, chances are very high it is just a shut down of a safe working location for sps. maybe not, but these cases that are coercive the charge list is very long and specific.

Your ads are not getting deleted tho, that is what they are letting you know. Your ads are getting redirected into a different location. If you have not registered for an account, do that. then you can log into your account, and see all your ads, and their dates, and manage them from there. I never even look at my emails, they come in when i bump up or pay for a sponser or something, i guess. I just monitor and deal with my ads completely via my account and manage ad option. I have asked bp support about this redirecting ads. I think that a lot of infrequent users or those who have never had sponser ads are experiencing this. I have no idea how you are going to get out of the cycle HOWEVER, bp support's response to my query said that if someone wants more visibility to their ad, to buy a paid feature lol. my advice to a friend who was having issues was first, post in the less used bodyrub section. if there is only a single page of ads, even if the ad gets redirected to the special section, that section is just at the bottom of the page, i.e. still visible. bump it daily anyway. 2nd piece of advice is have more than just one ad, and rotate thru them, one a day on the free bumps. 3rd is buy a sponser ad, for one week, when that expires, buy sponser on one of your other ads. all of my ads show as sponser ads because i have in the past put up all of them as sponsers (i only have a total of 8 ads, 'all' sounds like alot). not one single ad of mine is ever redirected into the 'additional ads' section. Not one single ad of mine has ever been deleted or removed from the site. based on what bp support said, and my experience, i am suggesting that having paid for the sponsers, and been a regular user of bp, and not trying to do multiple ads daily on the free bumps, etc, all ad up to bp not messing or redirecting my ads. also as mentioned here, pay the 1.00 to bump up the ad will top post you again for a while. bp support never did give me a direct answer as to why new advertisers who have never purchased sponser ads, for example, couldn't get an ad to stay up on the first page in the regular listings.

Amnesty International folks have voted on this policy to support decriminalization of sex work. They used an evidence based approach, and also actually talked to sexworkers across the globe. As a result of their decision, they are now facing the backlash from the anti sex work powerful lobby groups. If you remember, the same kind of groups that Harper has decided get all the c36 20 million funding. They have started a campaign to encourage their supporters to stop donating to AI. So i would just say that if you never thought about AI before, please do so now and show them your appreciation for adding their voice to the promotion of human rights for sex workers (and by extension, their clients, their employers, their children, their landlords, their tax accountants :) ) This is the onslaught & type of harassment & abusive comments amnestyonline is going thru since the policy was adopted today. this is just one example on one conversation started by an abolitionist attacker. amnestyonline's patience dealing with each comment is impressive tho

I used to suggest clients look to ads that have age posted at 19 or 20, at minimum, to get the youth without running as high a risk as I was sure that any sp under 18, or as young as 15 or 16 was going to be using the age 18 in their ads. Then i have seen/heard of two examples, one 15 years old posting at 19, the other was 16-17, & her ads had her progressively showing younger ages as she crept up towards the legal age. She was posting at 20 & 21, when she was 16-17. however, she was also part of a gang/scam where they hid in the room, jump out and rob the client, or kick him out after payment, so not too sure legally what more someone could be charged with there. Now these are two example of willing underagers. there are also blackmailed underagers, coerced underagers, held against their will underagers. If you ever go to see someone who you think is underage, willing or not, report them to LE. let LE figure out if they are of age or not, willing or not.

This is true. And also, it doesn't matter that it is the CL client coming up with this, if you were posting on other sites you would get the same thing. if these guys are contacting you, to me it means possibly that they are finding (as suggested) that those lower rates don't end up being quite that low when they get there, or those lower rates don't get them what they hoped for lol. Show them that you have more to offer, so your expectations are higher. when i use CL, i expect that the majority are massage/hj only type of caller. i have a different, lower, rate for that kind of session. of course some are looking for more, but chances are also that some are looking for a legit massage, or their expectations are massage rates. if it is clear that you are giving them rates for fs for example, not massage/hj then it might be clear that your rate is not higher than everyone else? I'm not sure, it is difficult to say without knowing what it is your rates/services are that seem to be getting the reaction, or how it is presented. feel free to send me a pm if you want.

If you move, if you got a landline, the number would move with you, and you can start and stop it with very little notice. once you know you are moving in, for example would be your start date at the new location. If you are getting internet & cable from Shaw, you choose the bundle that will give you a free phone. I had a bundle set up temporarily at a different location for a friend, & now that a free cable promotion is coming to an end & it is going to be canceled, i find out that for the past 5.5 months, this deal also came with a landline phone, & a number. the cost for that line on the bill was 15/month. Telus also does a bundle similar to Shaw. I do not know how great a deal they do with the phones. If you already have internet and cable with either company, just call them up & say you want to bundle in a phone line and find out what they can do for you.

The S in NSA is strings. There are strings in any professional relationship: payment for time. It doesn't help your case to add some rather condescending comments, but that is exactly the way you have approached this. You have indicated there are 'good' sps (the ones who don't charge & gratefully accept the conditions of your idea of what is a vacation to them) and 'bad' ones who understand that it is professional to treat it exactly the way it is. You also assume that sps who treat it as work, do not enjoy their time or activities with the clients they go with. That would be a huge mistake. Paid professional companions know better than to go on a vacation date with someone that they do not like or enjoy being with. that is why a professional is unlikely to arrange such dates with new clients, and only do them with someone who has visited a number of times, and at least over night or weekend dates first. You mention 'she can leave anytime' which to me is the opposite of forgetting it is work lol anyways, i am done with this, never should have made the attempt, but i do not want others to read such comments and think they are doing something wrong because no one will agree to travel for free with them.

All medications come with risks and side effects, like many other things in life. The upside is what it prevents, of course.

backrubman, i understand that a very few clients prefer to preserve the illusion. that is fine, but never forget, it is NOT a vacation to the sp. A vacation is just that, time away from work. Time with clients, paid time with clients as you have just said is what you provide, is actually work. am i just talking to the air here, is there some kinds of jobs out there where going away to work is considered not work? when your company sends you to Bangkok to go to a conference, pays the entire trip and meals, & you are getting your salary is it not still considered work? It is warm there, and you could take an afternoon off to go ride elephants, but to the company, and you, you are getting paid to go to Bangkok to present at a conference. And I bet, that very few people who get sent to Bangkok by their company, with all expenses paid, are unable to enjoy the fact they are in Bangkok, riding elephants during their downtime, and eating exotic foods in the sunshine. They likely enjoy their coworkers, the people who are also getting paid to be presenters at this sunshiney conference. The people who sell the elephant rides may find it hard to imagine you see this trip as 'work' too, but that doesn't take away from the fact when the ride is over, you return to the reason you are there in the first place: work. It ain't a vacation unless you are taking the time off, away from work, i.e. away from clients, and spending your own money on yourself. I'm sure there is a wiki definition of 'vacation' that does not include getting paid by your companion to spend time with them &/or sexual services, in Jamaica Additional Comments: well said

Does she say in her ads phone call only? I do this, and if someone texts or emails, i only respond one time and let them know there will be no info given by email/text. plus of course I don't have text on my phone so i don't even know if any attempt to reply to them is received. if she isn't saying phone call only, i am at a loss as to how she thinks anyone is going to just magically appear with the right rate. does she have a site where this is posted and you haven't seen that page? if she is ok with text & email, see post #2 above. majority of sps do not reply to single word texts or one sentence emails, when the topic of that is 'rates?" if you do end up figuring out the right way to contact her, and it still doesn't get a result, then move on. It should never be so difficult to contact an sp that you get frustrated in the process.

I am sorry you feel that the only way a paid companion/escort can prove herself is by not taking her work, being a paid companion, seriously enough to actually call it work when she is fulfilling your needs in her capacity as a paid companion. EVEN when that means that she agrees to go on a vacation date with a client. You call it vacation, any escort calls it work, bottom line. the way escorts make money is to be paid for accompanying or spending time with you, it isn't how many hjs or bjs you get at the end of that time. The 10k a week, well if anyone did just a 10 hour overnight with someone for 1000-2500, wouldn't it automatically be a discounted very good deal to only spend 10k for 7 full days and nights? the difference is, instead of periods of time 24 hr or 72 hrs here and there, in this case it is worked out for the whole week. In fact, it is just under 60 bucks an hour. Pretty cheap if you ask me, and a fair compensation for the fact that she is not making an income while with you and for her this is work, not a vacation. You can spin it any direction you wish, but it will never be just a vacay for any paid companion going on any kind of trip with any kind of client. At the end of the day, you have to look at it from a business perspective because the ONLY reason you even know this person is because she put up ads and she provides services in exchange for monetary compensation. And the things she needs to pay for don't go away just because she happens to like you and agree to go on a vacation date with you, she still needs her compensation for potential and lost income that she incurs simply because she is spending her time with you, and not with people paying full rate. And not with people who are her actual family and friends. Don't you think that, in all seriousness, if she wanted a vacation to a sunny place, she would rather be with her SO, or children, or sisters, or mom & dad instead of a business acquaintence? But this time 'being pampered', is time away from her family, friends, and pets. If she lives alone, her pets need to be cared for, which will either inconvenience a friend or she will be paying someone to come in to look after her place while she is away. She will be informing potential clients of her inavailability, clients who may only be infrequent visitors and she will never be able to recoup that visit. She may end up turning away multiple people, only to find out 1 week before the vacation is to take place, her vacay client cancels, gets sick or otherwise bails on her. at this point, it is possible she has had no deposit, and she has turned away appts, so now it isn't just the lost income for being away, it is now costing her money to have agreed to go on a vacay play time pampering she is supposed to be grateful for. Let's just say i am not a fan of the expectations of clients for what they believe these vacation plans should be, on the part of the professional paid companion. somehow the word vacation seems to be applied to the person they want to hire to spend that time with them, and no real understanding that the very word 'hire' is a contradiction to that word vacation. these are not vacations for paid companions.

I don't think she was meant to be there for more than a weekend, so her 5000 plus wardrobe was adequate compensation for non GFE companionship in the 80s lol Good point about the gentlemen don't barter, plus any 10k a week companion is a skilled travel companion, imo, & her clientele is looking for what she is providing, and won't blink at the rate. or more. * the all caps there were not me, it seems to put an acronym thru a filter to come out that way.

I wouldn't bother. bp has a perfectly acceptable option using the paysafe card available at any Canada Post and used & purchased exactly like any gift card CC I don't see the point in wallets and secure sites and market rates on any bitcoin thing when bp is the only place it is necessary, and paysafe is just that much more convenient and simple and cost efficient to buy & use. the minimum is like any gift card cc as in 25-30 bucks, or even less. unlike bitcoin where they are saying a minimum of 10x that number to get you started. for one site? no thanks no way.

The 2nd is more likely than the first. Why are you concerned about LE doing bp stings online ads when that isn't and hasn't happened at all ever, and is less likely to happen via using a reviewed sp info to do it? That's taking the LE paranoia about stings, which do not happen here, to a whole new level lol If another sp was borrowing her ad info to pretend to be her, then it would make sense to me, to register on CAF, and contact her via her handle there, and verify she is actually she.

There are different levels of feminist, just as there are different levels of malism. on the one hand, oldblue at first glance I would consider you an MRA, nothing to do with equal rights for men and women, MRA are all 'blame the feminists', and keep them wimmen folk in the kitchens (kind of like the women in Thailand are. Or at least, how the western male mind stereotypes Asian women, because the reality of asian women is quite different). There is little difference, imo, between an MRAer and a radical feminist. Both use the excuse of being pro-their-gender in order to actually advocate hatred and hardship onto the other gender. Both, I am sure, will agree that transgenders are not real women, too. Both are probably also very anti sex workers. In the case of radfems, they even have a name for it: SWERF. oldblue, you seem to resent sps, as do the radfems. similar conclusion based on different idealogies. You resent them for being women who charge men for sexual pleasure, instead of just providing it for free, as if men are entitled to it and women are withoholding it. And radfems blame sps for providing sexual services to men, as tho they are entitled to it & women are withholding it from them, but sps make it easier for them to access it lol

The ottawa ad links to a CAF review, meaning to me that she is from Edmonton. so obviously finding Edmonton ads is not exactly a surprise, and definitely not sketchy. You don't link to a review if you are planning to be sketchy, i don't imagine.

I always have music going. It is also a time reminder, & i am familiar enough with the song lists that i know what is 1/3, 2/3, and final songs before music (i.e. time) is at an end. It is less intrusive way to monitor the time, and when the music ends, it is an easy way to refer to it for someone who seems to be planning to over stay their time.