Andee

I agree with Grasshopper. There are legitimate SPs like us who advertise on CL but we are also members of CERB and as everyone knows, if you are a scammer, you will eventually get found out, end up on CK's blog and banned from CERB. So, I suggest, check CERB or Escorts-Canada first.

I have to admit, in 15 years, never seen an ad like this one.

It doesn't really matter what city you went to, but in terms of safety for example, there is a big difference between someone talking off on you in Albany New York, versus say a place like Las Vegas, New York or Chicago.. I think we all agree your travelling companion's behaviour was unprofessional and tacky. I appreciate you needing to get this off your chest, but really as I said before, there are probably some real nice ladies out there in cerb-land who would be honoured and grateful to accompany you on a get-away. Good luck next time.:roll:

Sorry to hear this happened to you. Some guy posted an ad on with her address MacLaren St. and Apt. number on CL saying he was ripped off as well, so now at least her address is public. I wouldn't want to be her, I tell yah. It's girls like that that give the industry a bad name...I then I wonder why my family worries about me doing th:evil:is job, geesh!

Yeah, she definitely set that up ahead of time and played you. Just because she did that to you, doesn't mean all of us are like that. Also, if you were footing the bill, I don't believe you deserved to be treated to what is basically a sneaky, underhanded move. I would never in a million years entertain the thought of doing something like that to someone being so gracious to me. That to me is not only unprofessional, it's mean. As for us being "phony", sorry, I don't buy that. I don't do anything I don't want to do. If I have to "fake it" it that bad to be around you for a half hour session, then I have no business accepting a trip. Yeah, maybe you don't own her 24/7, but surely there was some kind of an agreement as to what was going to transpire on the trip. If she wanted to "double dip", she should have told you, and then let you decide if that was cool, or arrange it so that your time would be with her for such and such period of time for whatever compensation you agreed to. I personally think it would be tacky to do that to someone. It would kind of spoil the mood so to speak. Unless that's how the client wanted it, which was not your case. For example, I do have a client that gets off hearing stories about me and other men and has suggested a trip to Toronto, where he books the hotel and I can see other men and then tell him about it. But that is totally a different scenario than what you were talking about. To take off for five hours...I would had a note on the door saying, "pick up your bags at the front desk". I agree that the other guy is not your problem. Since, she's off your dance card as you put, it, I suggest you just let it go. You an always find another sweet girl to take a trip with next time. Maybe ask the guys for a recommendation if you're afraid of getting burned again.

Those damn RCMP...always seem to show up at the most inopportune times. Something similar happened to me on a trip out west. It wasn't sex, but I got literally got caught with my pants down while taking a pee beside my car on the side of the road. It was pitch black and no other cars around and go figure, a Mountie had to show up. We all got a bit of a laugh out of it afterwards, but my travelling buddy said I did indeed looked like the deer caught in the headlights. It's good we weren't doing what we did hours earlier off the side of the road near Kenora, when he bent me over that Grand Am and we....now that would have been embarassing to get caught for sure.. :boobies:

Even if I pull the drapes, the lights are on so-to-speak and since it's the client paying, I don't object to the lights being on, it's just subdued lighting is my preference. I had one client who wanted a hood over his face, because his thing was to be given head in total darkness. Go figure...

I like subdued lighting and/or candles, lava lamps, that sort of thing. In the dark is no fun, because you can't see anything.:lol:

Joe Blow: I am trying for the life of me to figure out what the picture on your profile is. First I thought it was a chimp, then a hand, then a pair of spread legs and even a seashell. Am I blind, or just missing something? Apparently I understand that Japanese game shows are geared to making fun of the person who dares to express their individuality which is not encouraged in Japanese culture. That is why if a person agrees to go on one of these shows they are basically inviting themselves to be ridiculed and made fun of by the audienc. That way the barriers to "politeness" are lifted. It's almost like the wackier, the better. I always envision some guy wearing a helmet and goofy coloured suit get dunk tanked or dropped off something, :twisted:in the end!

I do! I find it to be a turn on, but for oral only. But you have to pick your places to park wisely. I live in Orleans and there are some nice dark spots around here. (Yes, I have done this once or twice, but very selective with who, where and when). Just remember, though you're asking for trouble if you go park in city parks after dark. A friend of mine was barely finishing zipping up his pants when a cop on a bicycle came up right beside his window. He was in a high school parking lot though around midnight. Dum dum. It turned out okay, but very embarassing for him and the young lady. Why do you ask?:?:

Just got into a conversation with a friend who's an SP who believes her barrier to finding true love has to do with her chosen profession. I am not suggesting she try to date a client, but I told her I believed there are more open-minded men out there than we think. The problem is finding the right connection.

I have a few friends who are SPs who are married to wonderful, understanding men who support their decision to work. I know a few others who "retired" at the request of their spouses because of whatever reasons. Personally, I have never found a man (other than some good male friends) who would have been open to me continuing to work if we got involved. Although they claimed to be "open minded", they still regarded my "work" as cheating. The ones which appeared okay and in even some cases enthusiastic (yes I have been approached many times) were either extremely submissive or "sissy boys" or domineering "pimp" types, none of which I would ever want to be in a relationship with it, working or not. I am just wondering how many of you would actually be comfortable dating an SP (who continues to work) and even live with, or marry her. Or, would you want her stop working if you got involved? How open-minded are you really. Oh, and here's another zinger, how would you feel if your daughter or sister started working as an SP. Sometimes we say it's okay for others, but "not in my backyard".

My favs: Royal Oak (Orleans): chicken wings. $5.99 for 10, Mon/Tues nites - a great deal. Very plump. Apparently imported from Brazil of all places. Also have a great burger, if you don't want anything overly fancy. The Works: Burgers, and those sweet potato fries....yes! No McDonald's for this girl. House of Pizza (Orleans - Convent Glen): The owners make their own dough and sauce from scratch and use the "good cheese" that doesn't look like oil floating on top of rubber when it's cooked. Pilos (Montreal Road): for Greek...reasonably priced and always delicious. St. Hubert: For chicken. Plumper and moister than Swiss Chalet. I like the sauce better too. But having first sampled the original when I lived in Montreal as a kid, I'm kind of partial to it. Believe it or not they also make a pretty good steak according to a few family members who have tried them more than once. I like the St. Laurent location the best.:mrgreen:

Me too! My desire was always to find a man who could cook. I'm still looking (he he). Interesting that you mention DiRienzo's for sandwiches. I met Paul DiRienzo when I was 16 years old. He was 24. He was my "first". That was "many many moons ago" when disco was big. He used to sport a long shag haircut and mustache, wear open shirts with gold chairs and platform shoes and drive a yellow Firebird. Paul is definitely greyer than those days, but still flashes a sexy smile for me and I believe loads my sandwich bigger (so my girlfriend claims when she's with me). So if you ever wanna go grab a sandwich there, I'll go with you anytime, girl! It's provolone picante cheese and 3 kinds of meat for me! Now I'm hungry reading all these posts...

How did this thread go from chips to coffee? Anyways, it's true, most black coffee drinkers I know do not fancy Tim's at all. I heard a rumour they put nicotine in their coffee to make it more addictive. Not sure if that's urban folklore or the truth...too lazy to research it. Anyone else ever heard of this? As for Pepsi, or Coca-Cola, I thought bottlers used whatever water was available locally to put in their drinks. I found the the Pepsi from California tastes different than in does in Calgary, New York City, Ottawa, or Amsterdam Although in Europe, like some other parts of the world, it's the same price or cheaper just to buy a beer. I found that out in Germany and Holland. The beer in Germany had no preservatives, hence no hangover the next day. Honest! BTW, Lucky Lager is the run-off from Blue. I have a friend who works at Labatts who told me this. :boobies:

I know Cherry Kiss is in Belleville.:boobies:

Where all the other ladies who usually speak out...like Erin etc.? I'm sure they'd be more than happy to help you. :lol:

I'd rather have crisp chips, intact, than crumbs any day...

Fountain drinks eh? Syrup and club soda, often not proper mix, so you end up with like what you had. :oops:Yucch! Yes, better off grabbing your pop in a bottle at the corner store.

Hi Mandalay: Before I answer these questions, I just want to say that I read the article about the young girl and feel bad for her family. But as I have always said, the sex trade is diverse and to compare girls working "on the street" to escorts like ourselves is pretty much like comparing apples and oranges - at least when it comes to safety concerns, which I think this journalist is getting at. I have been an escort since 1995. I can count on one hand the number of "bad" calls I have had and even those, you can't really use the word "bad" in comparison to what women on the street face. One guy was "really" drunk, picked me up and I fell against a table resulting in a cut/bruise. A few have tried to pay me in dope or other things and one tried to give me a cheque. Another one wanted some of his money back because he didn't come and he seemed a bit sketchy, so in that case I did because my vibe told me there was no use arguing and in that case I did feel my safety might have been jeopardized. In retrospect, I believe the client was high on something. I am much better in screening my potential clients and I must say have been incident-free for quite awhile. I also believe pressure by municipalities, such as Ottawa where the mayor has pressured to Police to crack down on street prostitution has done nothing more than to drive it onto the chat line and free boards like CL, leaving us with more undesirables as I would put it...the scammers looking to fulfill their means to the end - the quick fix (usually drugs). I have known girls who were hooked on drugs and they ALWAYS ultimately ran into some kind of problems, mostly because of how and where they conducted their business. I know of one who recently got evicted from her apartment because her landlord found out due to complaints due to high traffic of guys and drug dealers to her place). In the past 3 years, she has called me from time to time to cry about various things that in my 15 years of working, I have NEVER encountered. So I think there's something to be said for running a "clean" business. So, here are my answers: QUESTION #1 How do you feel about licensing? Does it enhance safety for women? Having worked as a "licensed" escort in Calgary, Grande Prairie and Ft. McMurray, NO, it does not. I think it is nothing but a tax grab for municipalities. An escort license in Calgary was $100 in 1995. All that meant was I had to show it when I went advertise in the Sun and my name and the phone number I was using had to match a list of Agencies since you were not allowed to work independently which meant the City and the Agencies were nothing but "legal pimps", in my opinion. QUESTION #2 With the advent of the Internet, how has the escort biz changed? Better? Worse? Added safety? Less safety? The "escort" business has gotten better in some ways because we have more options for advertising and exposure which newspaper advertise did not afford us. Men can access our e-mail, stats (sites) within minutes and make a more informed decision as to whether they want to see us. As for safety, cannot really say because again, clients can e-mail from anonymous accounts and on public computers if they really want to "hide". In other ways it has gotten "worse" because providers and their clients who once roamed the streets are now online thus "mixing" in with legitimate providers and giving newbies a real headache trying to sort it all out. Free boards like CL have proven that. In the Ottawa region, we fortunately have cowboysdiary.blogspot.com a site specifically aimed at identifying scammers. In one way that is good, but there are so many scammers now, it is hard to get on top of them all, and again, it gives legitimate providers a challenge in "standing apart from the crowd" if we choose to advertise on those free sites as well. Scammers = trouble = potential trouble (for both parties, actually). QUESTION #3 I hear there are less licensed escorts now. How does this affect the city industry? Relationships with police if there's a problem to report? It just means the City is getting less tax revenue. As for relationships with Police, what exactly is being reported and when. So the Police have access to a list of people's names holding "licenses". I'm not sure how helpful that is when most problems are kind of after the fact. Safety-wise, what good is that if an SP is lying in a hospital bed or morgue. I doubt a would-be predator would use his real name if details were recorded with agencies. Also, I think stats prove that the percentage of escorts (who run a clean business) being killed compared to street workers is so low...or non-existent in some communities. And when I lived in Calgary, I don't know of any street girls who went and got licenses and they were the ones at high risk for safety concerns. Although I got a little long-winded, I hope my answers help. Although I must tell you, I'm not sure how useful the questions really are in determining safety factors.

Anita, I think your breasts look pretty nice to me. As a bi-curious female, I can appreciate a "nice rack", but I generally do not like anything bigger than a C cup. I think it's because my mother was a double-DD (hence, the "motherly" thing). Which is probably why my friend Carrie Moon who is an all natural triple EEE does so well as a MILF. She calls it "booby power". Not to hijack the thread, but it would be interesting to compare men's tastes in breasts with that their own mothers, to see if there's a correlation.

Did you notice the actual "weight" is less than it used to be, but yet the bag it comes in is the same size. Or sometimes they make the bag bigger to give you the illusion you're actually getting more. There is a conspiracy, I tell you. Toilet tissue does not last as long as it used to and I am not going to the loo any more often. You have to buy "double rolls" to get the same mileage you used to out of "single rolls". My grandmother told me that originally the Lowney's Cherry Blossom chocolate bar, was in a box that was a perfect square shape. Slowly over time, same box has shrunk down to a more rectangular looking thing. Finally, when you buy "whipped" butter or cream cheese, these products are more spreadable but pumped up with air, but at the same price. Whoever thought of that, was a genius. But like you, I don't like anyone messing with my snack foods, but the question remains Homer, what can we do about it? Just keep consuming and bitching....:lol:

I knew a Shemale from Toronto, who when travelling to Ottawa was so busy, she had to shut her phone off at times because it rang non-stop. "She" did better than any female escort I have ever known. You figure it out...

[ Toronto is different...they are bolder...sometimes they'll have one "RMT" on staff so they can have the location without having to apply for body rub parlour license. (so I've been told). You just never know now days, I guess....

Ah, so if she is indeed an RMT (registered massage therapist) then she most probably is NOT an MA, because she could risk losing her license. I have a friend who's an RMTs who finds it humourous when newbies call to book and she has to gently to inform them that she doesn't do "that kind of massage".