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i dont like voluptuous personally... too often interpreted as equating to fat. not really specific enough to focus on breasts in particular. "well-endowed" however, as applied to a woman, equates to chestiness. "rubenesque" has an artistic flavour to it to be a little more blunt, my friends and i always referred to a well breasted woman as being "stacked".

well stated. classy as usual.

Do unto others as you'd have them do unto you. good karma for you.

surely you are not going to claim you have never terrorized/harassed/degraded/demeaned another human being in the past? ever? in any forum? if indeed you are guilty of doing so, (as we all know we are) what makes you think you automatically deserve the right not to receive the same at the hands of someone else? if we don't forgive , we are not worthy of forgiveness. the truth is really that simple. same goes for you, roaming guy.

jugheads comments were inappropraite, we all agree. this has been made perfectly clear, repeatedly, in a number of well written comments. even jughead agrees. he has deleted his comments and openly apologized several times. he has not made an effort to defend his actions. there is nothing to be gained by pursuing this further. if we are (appropriately) taking the position that the members of the board, particularly the ladies, are good people and deserve better, then it is time to do our part to prove we are worthy of this claim. this comes in the form of forgiveness. it is time to forgive. jughead.....please do not do such a thing again. words are powerful. your words can elevate the ladies or they can terrorize them. so choose your words carefully.

easy does it there malika... i get concerned when i hear things like this just live for one day at a time, just be thankful for your daily bread today, let tommorrow worry about itself, because tommorrow is just as uncertain for those that think they have it all together as for those that think they dont. nothing is ever as it seems right now, and all things in time shall pass.

don't disagree with anything you've said......except the part about giving. it's not giving if money is required. that's what's called selling. we can call it a donation if we like.... but it's not optional. and as soon as we dismiss that fact, we leave reality and enter fantasy. that's my point.

i read so many different variations on this theme in cerb. disappointments on both sides of the equation. in my opinion, the thing to always keep in mind is that the hobbiest/provider situation is an arrangement. it is a transaction. the only real truth, or common denominator to be expected each time, is that at the end of the day money will flow in one direction and sperm will flow in the other. everything else is fiction and as such, will be whatever the two parties make of it. to buy too far into the arrangement beyond this will inevitably only create difficulty....again on either side. individuals come into this transaction (from both sides) for a multitude of different reasons. some guys are cuddlers, some are not. some are looking for female warmth, others for a higher scale means of satisfying a more primitive urge. conversely, sometimes a provider is genuinely attracted to a client, sometimes they must deal with more repulsive emotions. the bottom line is this variety means, to a greater or lesser extent, all hobbiests are pretending to care for the ladies as more than a warm body, and the ladies are pretending that the hobbiests are performing well and satisfying them. the one thing that is always reasonable to expect at all times is respect. in my opinion, although this is an arrangement not a crime, it is not entirely "victimless". two human beings are involved in the transaction and they both have feelings, and as such both are vulnerable. this is what must be respected at all times. to return to alex's original question, were it i who had to depart prematurely (and this does happen legitimately), i would assure the lady she was attractive, and had done well, and that the loss was entirely mine, but that circumstances dictate i must leave. simply telling her you would like to return gives her the clear (albeit indirect) impression you were happy with her without actually saying as much.

well, you only have to have that experience once (mine was at the chaste, unsullied, and unsuspecting age of 15) and you will do the "scratch and sniff test" each and every time for the rest of your life.....regardless of their "credentials".

sorry to hear this. like etasman, i have taken to carrying on everything, every time i travel. been doing it for years. even if they dont lose it, they can damage it or soak it by leaving it out in the rain which happened to my fellow travellers recently. i wouldnt worry about being the lady who blocks the aisle. no one else worries, besides you're pretty good eye candy so i'm sure it'd be "ok". i wouldnt mind being the gut behind you being "forced" to watch you stretch up the pack the overhead, might even help out. ha ha ha . truthfully though if you have a bag a litttle too big for overhead you still dont have to check it as there is usually a rack right at the door before you board where you can place it and retrieve it upon exit. if the stewardwsses bitch, that is the time to tell them they can be trusted to check bags, and even have the 200 dollar cheque stub in your purse to prove it. anything i dont absolutely need to bring with me i have taken to buying once there. less to carry, and less pressure packing beforehand. and i never met a woman who didnt love any justification to shop. just about anywhere has a wallmart now. and the airlines think every toiletry is a bomb anyway. check it for the return trip if you like. less stressful if they lose it on the way back.

my fav is an hbo series called deadwood. i think anybody on this site would like that one.

cant beat mother nature outdoor encounter...northern lights and the midnight sun of the summer yukon is the ultimate... beyond comparison. so incredible is it that the japanese have built an entire tourist industry around it. indoors...and more achievable for almost anyone ...is a simple fireplace. amazing flickering light and shadow but also warmth on bare skin and charming crackling sounds are a bonus.

while novel to see, i'm not sure i'd like my epitaph reading "suffocated in an ass cheeck avalanche"

if any SP is wondering if they are too old, just take this short quiz... 1) do you dye your hair? 2) do you dye your hair blue? 3) do you dye your muff blue to match the hair? 4) do you wear a diaper? 5) do you have false teeth? 6) can you find your false teeth? 7) can you find your breasts? 8) did you find your breasts in your diaper? 9) can you tell the difference between your breasts and your false teeth? if i can be of any further assistance, feel free to ask. (note: 6 doesnt count if client hid them cuz he likes it better that way.)

actually (and respectfully) erin the combined breakage/ slippage rate is 9-12%. in an FHI study in 1993, almost 2000 encounters, resulted in a slip/break rate of 1 in 11. it is generally overestimated the efficacy of condoms especially as it pertains to pregnancy. people tend to forget that in order to get CONTRACEPTIVE rates comparable to the pill from condoms they need to be used in combo with spermicidal foams. sure the ladies can overcome this aspect by using another method too such as the pill, but of coarse foams and have no extra protection against std's. given the numbers of "encounters" some ladies can have, a failure rate of 10-12% becomes a legitimate threat. the ladies can improve their rate of success by applying the rubber themselves where they can, and so at least they know they are applied properly. however an overly "frisky", and / or an inexperienced guy have higher breakage slippage rates. so its quite possible that a knowlegable provider( perhaps the lady in question) sensing such an excited, or clumsy guy, might make a request not to cum deep, and this would be reasonable in my eyes, and the main concern would be std's.

i think if you're sweating the 300 bucks, you might need a new hobby... or at least a more economical fetish. i think it lacks class to put any of the burden for this on the ladies. going dutch on your fancy ? come on.

Emma, I think it's important to remember here, that often its not really the action that some one is purchasing, so much as the right to a clean departure. The timing of that departure is best left up to the guy. You need to be a little careful here. Not every guy can go MSOG, thus you could convert an otherwise satisfied sensation into a sensation of inadequacy. Preferable to part on a high note I think. Furthermore too much post coital attention might send the wrong guy the wrong message. I doubt very much these guys that get done in 30 mins , thank you, then leave, are feeling theyre not getting their moneys worth. Its much more likely that you're just that good.

1) Tightness....body type really doesnt have much correlation, but background of child bearing definitely does. also if you're pregnant and still sexual you can expect to be a little looser too, as the body circulates a hormone called relaxin (which gets the pelvis ready to pass the baby). however the truth of the matter is, a woman is as tight as she wants to be. the pelvic floor encompassing the anus and the opening of the vagina is really one big strap muscle. "tightness" is a function of the tone present in these strap muscles known collectively as the pubococcygeus. these muscles, like any other can be trained. Dr. Arnold Kegal came up with a series of extremely effective training excercises ( the "kegals") designed to strengthen these. ironically it is primarily the child bearing women that pay the most attention to these, and hence often end up being the tightest of all, provided they are diligent with them. some i know ( and the cerbite readers do too) can clamp onto a dick like a pit bull on a porkchop, even be lifted off the bed with nothing more than their pelvic muscles tightened around the retreating penis. and this is despite having had a few kids and falling into the "voluptuous" category. like anything else, tightness, just depends on how well a woman takes care of herself. for those of you who like exploring alternatives, a reflex contraction of these muscles can also be achieved through a reflex arc known as the bulbocavernosus reflex. this reflex tightening of the vagina is triggered by anal dilation. so the old thumb in the bum or the "shocker"will tighten her up a bit too, but dont expect it to last very long. 2) stinky snappers....any muff diver whose ever had the misfortune of stampeding too quickly for the Y, (without doing his due diligence), only to find he's trapped with a nose full of less than freshness, will forever more do the old "scratch and sniff" on each and every cunnilingual opportunity, regardless of SP status or not. investigative methods vary, i have my own preference. not surprisingly i dont know of any SP who didnt make the cut. i think these ladies are too wise to not know that no one likes a smelly honey pot, and if they allowed themselves to have one, they may as well just put a bullet in their career. 3-5) nothing to add.

i like this thread. i find it interesting that by and large the typical number of times that keeps popping up is around 3-5 per week, which is exactly what anthropologists would have predicted. it may interest some to know that as a species, human libido fall somewhere between gorillas and chimps. although these other species do not masturbate ( they do play with themselves but rarely to climax), their libido can be gauged by how often they engage in intercourse. Gorillas on average once a week, chimps once a day. of course you will always have the aberrations and outliers (like some of you horn dogs), but its no surprise that most people are typically reporting in the 3-5 range roughly. that being said, i personally feel i can outperform a chimp, and i side with those of you who need it at least once a day. besides, what the hell good is the development of an opposable thumb, if you can't spank the monkey....literally.

I agree wholeheartedly with Attilla, and the others. If it was an issue for some for the SP's to be involved, or for repeat awards to be won, the time to voice that was at the nomination. Everyone knew Emma was an SP, and a previous award winner then, but no one said anything at the time. Only after the fact was it brought up, and clearly it swayed the outcome because after that comment, the voting pattern changed substantially. Emma as a CERB member has proven herself extremely knowledgable and experienced, and she has given generously of both to hobbiest and SP's alike. The posts are only part of the story with her too. Her contributions continue in the PM's. She has assisted many members, freely giving advice and commentary on any number of topics of relevance. Particularly impressive in my opinion , is her ability to converse at any level, simplifying for the inexperienced, and rising to the more "advanced", as the occasion dictates with equal efficacy and dignity. That , people , is a sign of something special and certainly worthy of this award. But the thing that seals it for me is her retraction. I respect it , if that is her wish, but its a crime nevertheless. Rather than allow any further negativity to continue, she puts pride aside and merely points out what we all should have known in the first place. We members, whether they realize it or not, have all just been schooled on grace and class by this fine lady.

well said boner. and further to that the reader must remember that very few hobbiests have had the good fortune to sample everyone, so direct comparisons are difficult if not impossible. the best one can achieve in a situation such as this, is to collect some well deserved tributes and recognize those who have performed so well as to motivate a member to actually respond to a thread. it has been previously and quite correctly articulated that it is difficult to cum in someones mouth and not be having fun, however to that end any old spitoon will suffice. we are not talking about that. we are speaking on the "art of felatio", we are speaking of those who have elevated the encounter to a different level. If one is interested in experience , talent and a genuine enthusiasm for the physical act, and is discerning enough to appreciate the finer advantages of being with a more mature woman, then in this regard the queen must certainly be Emma Alexandra.

How does any discussion about "desirable duos" not include Emma A. versus Miss Chloe? If you can catch those two in town together, it would be entirely worthwhile.