urbankid

All -- I saw a fantastic lady from Montreal a month ago (Jan 22nd to be precise). She was scouting Ottawa, and I don't believe she's been back since. She went by the name Charlie and appeared well-established as an indie provider and massage artist in Mtl. Her ad is no longer on BP. Anybody has a phone number or a link to her practice in Mtl? Please PM me if so. Thanks :) UK

Hello - any intel appreciated on the gorgeous Maelie, who is advertising on BP. http://ottawa.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/in-kanata-only-16feb-from-mtl-andgt-maelie-hot-frenchgirl-34dd-blonde-till-23h-incall-250h/26336050 UK

Thanks Hunter. Your post gives me great confidence in 'hunting' on BP in the region. Where I currently live, the ratio of bait n switch and straight scam is very high on BP, so TOFTT is quite risky. I like your nbr 3. I never thought of doing that, but it seems like a good idea. I asked about BP in this thread because I remembered making some fun, unexpected encounters using CL, a few years ago in Ottawa. All the best to cerbites UK

I'm always amazed at how closely knit this community is. Warm bday wishes, Gina - I hope w get to meet. UK

I certainly remember Cowboy Kenny - and I'm glad to know he is still kicking dirt at the impostors! UK

Hello - I'm moving back in the area after a long absence. I've grown to be very wary of BP ads, based on where I spent the last few years, but I know some reputable Ottawa providers advertise on BP. Visually, the offering seems quite good! I'm curious for what tools and rules of thumb Ottawa gents use when surfing BP. Ladies will also have insight, of course. Thanks for any help Urbankid

I think Samantha hit the nail on the head by declaring: "But I am a whore and sometimes I love feeling like it, too." The question is whether a fair range of SPs feel that way. Collectively, we've created an imagined reality that is not transactional. Our joint narrative, if you look at what is written on these boards, the way ads are framed, hell even the way reviews are written - the locus is almost never "I need sex / I need money". The LHE transgresses this narrative. Does it hurt (and who does it hurt) to shine a direct, uncompromising light on a bare reality? Sam, you made me laugh when you referred to guys fumbling and apologizing, but I confess that I can absolutely relate! Especially now, as I get in the mental space to open my next meeting with "I have a fantasy for you and I today: I want to fuck a prostitute." I'll let you know how that brick flies... UK

I came across a strange site yesterday: an SP who did not offer FS. She offered fantasies. Judging from her website, she was a pro at costumes and RP. Releases? CBJ and HJ: a far cry from the no-holes barred experience. And still, I was tempted. I go for FS in less than half my encounters because - it has started to dawn on me - that's not why I hobby. I'm lucky in that I get FS and kindness from my adorable gf. But still I hobby, to get a glimpse into another world, to see new ladies wearing sexy outfit. And really, I hobby because I like the "dirty" side of it - the amoral, anonymous, quick, transactional. I was surprised to discover, in the review section of that SP's site, that *several* suitors have asked her to play the role of a prostitute (we really gotta be living in a post-modern age - but I disgress). The descriptions of such fantasies seem to zoom in on three things. First is the outfit - because of the visual impact and because that is something we in this community talk about. Second was sex & cash. Or rather, sex for cash: the big taboo. Third were locations and positions that speak to a deed urgently done: in a car, back alleys, etc. When I think back to the ladies I've met over time, one situation stands out. She had forgotten our meeting, seemed utterly unreliable, she arrived late and was eager to go. She was wearing an unsophisticated pair of jeans, a shirt too small, and vertigo-inducing shoes. She tried to upsell me on everything, wasn't really into it - and I exploded right away, after which she left. By most standards, that was a terrible experience, and I did feel kind of robed on the spot. But in hindsight, the situation still turns me on like crazy. I mean, a lot more than most of my other encounters. What I'm getting at is this: there appears to be niche for an experience that is not GFE (because there is no kindness, or intimacy, or comfort involved), and not really PSE (because the goal is not doing gymnastics like a movie). As I was describing above, it is seedy, impersonal, transactional, anonymous. I would call it the LHE - the loveless hooker experience. And I submit that ladies interested in such an experience should advertise as such. By its very nature, LHE is hard to discuss, for two reasons. First, it comes across as rude, perhaps even threatening to ladies. I've yet to win someone over by saying "here's my fantasy: you act like a cold and distant bitch who's here for the money. I'm not going to talk to you, except to order you around; there won't be cuddling and I'll expect you to behave like a whore". Second, it makes all involved vulnerable to LE, because it cuts right through the usual alibis. Still, it seems to me that this is not fundamentally different from the bread and butter of what we do - in fact, it throws both protagonists back to their most basic roles, doesn't it? And that, to me, is really exciting. I'd be curious to hear from mates who have had the same fantasy, and from ladies who played it. UK PS - I'm a really nice guy in reality :-)

Thanks for the advice. I see that opinions differ - which adds a nice reassuring touch to my initial puzzle. I agree with it all. And in the end - call me shameless populist - I'm leaning in the direction of the majority. Fun ad referendum! UK

Hi - I'm a hobbyist and will be spending a few nights in Canada shortly. My usual digs in two cities are packed, and I've identified little inns nearby as possible options (probably 10 rooms each: bigger than a B&B, but not anonymous like a big hotel). Do you think it would be a problem to receive 1-2 providers over the course of my stay in such places? Would management have issues? Would providers agree to visit? Curious for your advice UK

I had wanted to meet with Brooke for a long time. When I first started hobbying, she was my choice pick, but our meeting fell through. We then had trouble matching our schedules for several months, and so it was only late in December -- and with great excitement -- that I finally met Brooke. Brooke had already won me over before I arrived. Communicating with her was easy, she had a sweet sexy voice, and she happily entertained my little fantasies. When I finally rang on her door, she was wearing exactly what we had agreed. I followed her upstairs, freshened up. We then had a little chat and tease, as I don't like getting down to business to quickly. I won't narrate the juicy bits, but I want to emphasize how caring, natural and fun Brooke is. I guess my antennas were right: she would be great for a first-timer. She also has a lot to please a more experienced hobbyist, including - because I just can't avoid mentioning it - amazing oral skills. Have fun gents, but leave me a spot when I'm back in town ;) UK

I'll be visiting Washington DC shortly, and I'd love to find a forum like CERB. And for lack of the perfect tool, I'd also be interested in your suggestions of Forum, guides and SPs. Feel free to PM me. Gracias! UK

I'm a sucker for sexy clothes, and I'm especially partial to tight fitting skirts/dresses, leg wear and heels. A question for the gals: what do you think of gents who ask you to wear specifics? Turn-on or annoyance?

This will resonate especially with the francophone literary types, who will be saddened to learn that writer Nelly Arcan, a 2001 revelation whose first book Putain won high acclaims, has been found dead in her Mtl flat. http://www.cyberpresse.ca/arts/livres/200909/25/01-905371-nelly-arcan-meurt-a-35-ans.php Putain pertained not to the sex industry, but with a woman's reaction to it. While she was never a spokesperson for the hobby, her talking about it publicly, and it shocking people, certainly contributed to opening minds. There's currently very little on the circumstances of her death, but the (small) Qc blogosphere is speculating suicide. My favourite post, below, pertains to a guy who almost dated her, although cerbites could have even more "material" memories of the writer... http://renartleveille.wordpress.com/2009/09/25/nelly-arcan-suicide/ UK

Seems like it's taking ages, and probably using up your time too. So, just adding my voice to the choir of cheers. Let us know if we can help. UK