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Hi 42 a million zeros 42 a lot of zeros First thing, don't be so fucking suspious. We are here to help, not fuck you over. Second thing, if you have a good sexual relationship, go with it, if not get rid of your guilt. Ideally your partner should fulfill your sexual need but if she/he can't or won't , don't beat a dead horse. This will only lead to your frustation and a buised an beate 'dead horse'. There are ladies here that enjoy sex and they are willing to help, at a reasonable fee. Never begrudge this fee. Their service take time and effort and are always much better value than almost any government service that you are paying for now. Put it this way, if this was a government provided service it would cost you(all of us) at least 30% more than the going rate. Third; be honest, not secretive. If you believe that a lady was honest, fair, gave full effort and was concerned with her reputation and the reputatin of the industy ,tell us. Anything less hurts us and hurts the honest ladies. This is a concept that is difficult for those to grasp if they are short sighted and are concerned with the short termed dollar. Finally; let me wish you sexual gratification. With this you will be a much better person, with your partner and with everyone else in the world. take care chicas

Hi SMQ, I like your comparative definitions of manogamy. Without a doubt, it is more like the board game where you buy up property , set up hotels, and impose a set of possesive rules. For me it is way too much about not shareing. I have much to say about this but always get myself in trouble here when I share to many thoughts so I better leave it as that for now..... take care ...chicas

Nice question. I've learned that by being me and by being open I can become closer to most women than I ever expected. I've learned to initite a conversation with a virtual stanger ( provideing she is female), adding to her life experiences and my own. I've confirmed something that I have always expected; I love giving even more than receiveing but I hate greed...chicas

I was asked about a dozen times to let members know how the Sybian party went so I thought I would do it here. First we had a couple of fairly late cancelations and two ladies were a no show inspite of the fact that 1 re-confirmed the night before. We received no cancelation phone calls but a reasonable explanation after the party. Fortunately I had a lady that I was confident would come on short notice. She had experienced the Sabian the previous night and I told her about the party. Inspite of the fact that she was shopping when I called her, she was at the hotel suite in less that 45 minutes. Until 9:00 we chatted, sipped wine or juice , nibbled and shared experiences.I had no idea that TS persons were of such interrest to ladies ( they don't interrest me in the least.) At 9:00 the games began. The first event was the fully clothed, panties on, no penitration Sybian experience( there was a reason for this modest introduction). There was a little hesitation about who would try this first. When a small remuneration was offered there was some friendly buisness negotiation, but nothing I precieved as greed. Kaylee was the first rider. The idea was to ride the Sybian in full view of all present without exposeing one's panties. The concept being that everyone was going to see the ecstacy on the rider's face and witness the changes in her body. For the rider the object is self explanitory. A hush(almost embasassing) fell over the party as everyone watched Kaylee take her first ride. I shouldn't really describe it any further than to say it was beautiful for all of us; as was Elizabeth's first ride, as was Cindy's. I am very happy to say that not one of the ladies mounted the saddle for 10 seconds, got up and said " that's enough". There was a little minor adjusting and positioning but other than that each lady rode that stallion to satisfaction. After that event we held a panty auction. Here the ladies stayed out of sight from the men while I described in turn each ladies panties and I acted as auctioneer ( and sometime bidder) in a panty auction. Now you can see why we had the ' panty on Sabian experience' first. I think that it helped add a little something to the value of the panties that the men would bid on. This event was fun, I certainly had fun, and I think all would agree. The proceeds went directly to the ladies involved and the prices paid were pretty much where I hoped they would be. Except one of the guys became overly excited and purchased 2 pair. I planned the party withequal number of men and ladies. Unfortunately I lost out. (I will have to discuss with him the concept of share. lol) After the auction the men had the priviledge of removing the panties from the ladies.They did so with all the haste of a worker on a goverment contract. Which only added to the anticipation and delight of everyone. Once the panties were in the posession of their new owners, they were given back to the ladies, temporarily, for the panty toss. If we were in the Jakarta room at Marriagi's this would have been a toss into the chandlier. but since we weren't the ladies tossed their panties at a make-shift ring toss board that was festuned with prizes in various denominations. This worked out to be not quite as easy as expected so it took a bit of time and several tosses for each pair to find a home and suitable reward for their former owners. I believe one of the guys was drafted in as a relief pitcher. When the prizes were distibuted each lady also got a gift certificate to La Senza for garment replacement. The ladies surrendered their panties, and the panties were not replaced for the duration of the evening. Time for more refreshments, and conversation , a bit foreplay and intamacy. After that two of the ladies treated us to some shadow dancing of a decidedly suggestive nature from behind a back light screen, hot, hot,hot ! From this point on I will try always to include this in our evenings entertainment. We followed that with our version of a glory-hole. In every respect the evening was ment to be as delightful for the spectators as for the participants and I think it worked. After that there was more conversation, refreshments, and a room was made available for private intamacy. Then the ladies availed themselves of the Sabian, again. This time without panties and with the small size appendage attatched , and penitration. Once again the din of silence was unbelieveable as the machine was dialed up to 70% power and a little beyond on both rotation and vibration. Again the rides were not short duration and one lady even chose to ride it a third time. The party lasted well past midnight and may well have lasted longer but more than a couple of us had work and go to meetings in the morning. Intersperse with the activities were booty bags for the ladies and prise draws for the ladies. The final draw for the evening was for a Colombian emerald ring of .69 ct. There was a picture taken of it, which I don't have. Maybe the owner of the photo can add it to this post. There were activities that I can't comment on and others that I won't. I think most of us would do it all again, or something close to it. (there should always be changes). I am not sure when the next 'chicas party for ladies and gentlemen' will be held, only that there will be another. ...chicas/chavez

Hi Tina, Like everyone else here I will give you my understanding. A good escort offers her mind and body in a mutually acceptable relationship with usually includes sex but not nessicarily. She provides her time her time and companionship in a non exclusive arrangement for an acceptable fee. Hopefuly she will recieve as much as she gives and grows with each encounter. A courtesan may provide many of the same things but to a smaller and more exclusive clientel. Her fee, by nessesity, because of her limite clientel, may be a little higher, so I fear that ladies that want to charge a little more try to use the descriptove name " coutesan". She may consider herself a little more in the driver's seat in this relationship. ( ie, althought she may a few clients, her clients usually have only 1 courtesan). She may consider herself a bit of an expert in relationship matters and actuallyfeal herself beyond learning. Given my definition you must know which I prefer. I have a few years on you , but I am not done either learning or teaching. Give me a ladys that does both. Although I am never described as cheap, I have no desire to be financially dominated. Exclusivity sound good but I am too much a socialist and free love advocate to buy into that either. Of course you need to create your own definitions, but those are my thoughts....red chicas

I mentioned earlier that I hoped to have something to add to this thread on the Sabian. I will start with Samanthian's concern about noise. I believe Samantha said that she understood that it sounded like a cross between a motor boat and a grass trimmer. Potentially with that much power vibration this might be a problem but a few weeks ago a lady and I tried it out and I was paying special attention for noise. ( machine , not lady). I was glad to say that the Sybian didn't make a lot of noise if the ladys was on it. That was on a carpeted concrete floor in a hotel room. We never even tried it on a bed. I mentioned that with vibration deadening material it may make even less noise. In preparation for our Sabian party I built a raised stand to hold the Sybian and added about 1.5 cm of vibration deadening material. The raised stand was built paritcularly to facilitate viewing and to prevent leg cramping for the ladies. Again we use it on a hotel room on a carpeted concrete floor, with 3 ladies of various body stypes. Sorry if this sounds a little clinical, it was far from that! I am happy to report that up to 50% power there was not noticable sound (from 50 cm away). A slight sound at 70 % power , and more but now excessive at 80%. We never reached beyond 85 % power. That would have taken a special effort for the ladies. Was it everything I hoped for. Yes. I think each of the ladies will agree. We need to thank them. Doing this in a less than private setting takes a special commitment to scientific research. I believe each one of them would be even willing to continue more extensive experimentation in more private settings...chicas/chavez

Thanks for the report Samantha and for weighing in Cleo. This will add anticipation for our ladies and gentlemen at our upcoming 'Sybian Party' Samantha, did you try the Money Rocker. How was it? How did it compair? chicas/chavez

Thanks to the Sybian, and the input from various members here, Winnipeg will be having it's second ' real party' I realize the the Sybian is not everyone idea of something to center a party around but there are enough of us that I believe we will make that last party look like a tea party. I want to thank those that have encouraged me to follow through with a vage idea of a plan. I owe a debt of thanks to those that have support me and offered assistance. To those that might have offered encouragement, but didn't , I invite them to support our next project whole heartedly. I offer a toast: "To exciting time , unlimited imaginations and unbelievable fun in Manitoba ! tip your glasses with me, Cheers! "

Tratelle you struck a bit of a raw nerve with me. I brought this matter up previouly on another board with many of the same points as you have. Many of the contributions to the post were in support of our possition but not all. I go one step further. European did not "steal Indian land" Nomatic people do not have the same claim to land as people that develope the land. They are like renters in an appartment. They use the land. Like renters. They shouldn't say ' We lived there every summer for a thousand years so it is mine'. The native peoples in Manitoba and all of the prairie provinces used the land. When winter came they packed up and moved south and who could blame them. Jeez living on the open land in a buffalo hide tent at 40 below none of us could to it ( well maybe marathon man for a week or something) . I frequently hear 'you stole our land'. Where the hell is the " thanks for showing us how to build warm houses, we sure appreciated the guns to get food,hey how about those steel knives, who would have guesses; wheels to move things on, guess what horses to carry our stuff " none of that. Don't get me wrong, I don't dislike native people I just dispise this attitude and by makeing Louis Riel a hero instead to the criminal that he was we are playing the game that makes villians of the real heros. The real heros are those that developed this land and made our country into the strong productive nation that it is. I may have a bit of a different prespective having been educated in Alberta, in Sakatchewan and in Manitoba. Each province has there own piece of the Louis Riel story. Tratelle you have it right. Our celebration on Louis Riel the hero is a like celebrateing the FLQ only a bit more stupid. I have a bid longer memory that some but I don't remember the FLQ actually being responsibe for attacking whole communities in Quebec. There are some that say that without Louis Riel Manitoba would never have become a province. "We needed that revolt to form a province in western Canada". My recollections of Canadian history does not recall that Saskatchwan, Alberta or B.C. needing such an anti-hero to become provinces in Canada. Like livenudecats, and quicknicks, a bit I object to unnessicary holidays. I believe work is nessicary for us individually and as a nation. Unlike pistolepete I believe in fair taxation, but I hate paying taxes to people that make laws that are distructive to our ecomomy and cause me to pay wages to people that are being non productive, and in the name of a person that was resposible for killing people that built this nation. Anyway, sorry, I am a much kinder person that this contribution to a post would make me seem. chicas /chavez

Thanks Jazeitup for provideing those links. There are many links to the Sybian , redtube , youtube , and many even through google includeing a few with Howard Stern, but I had up until now only seen the basics of the Monkey rocker and until Samantha brought it up I had never seen any. Samantha it is a shame that you aren't in Manitoba (well thats what I think).From your interrest you would certainly get an invite to our upcoming party.Maybe we can arrange that at a later date. We can view all the videos we want and that is great but there is nothing like that first-hand experience. I am really interrested in your impressions at the party that you are going to. Keep in touch. I appreciate all the contributions by everyone to this post. ..... chicas/chavez

Thanks Samantha for provideing the link to the monkey rocker. It does look intriguing. The monkey rocker is a thrusting machine.On the other hand the sybian is more about stimulation with vibration and the actual insert has more of an oscillating action(with vibration). Each action is independent and controlable. I think that ladies often choose the vibration without any penetration. My experience is limited (soon to be corrected) with the sybian and I would say it isn't silent but not overly loud unless ofcourse you needed total silence for example : children in the next bedroom. We placed it on the carpet over concrete floor in a hotel room. It seemed O.K. That had been a concern of mine as well so I wanted to know how loud it would be if we didn't use it on say a bed. I was wondering if I needed to buy a piece of vibration deadening material. I may yet buy it but don't think it is nessicary. Mind you we only got up to about 75% power on the vibration and maybe 40% on the oscilation. ....chicas/chavez

Return on investment: memories, sweet, sweet memories. In 1 month, in 1 year and even in 30 years from now when I'm sitting in a wheelchair in a seniors lodge I want to pull up those images in my mind and replay them and remember how we shared our time. It will be more to me than memories of a car or a quad or snow mobile. Chance are I won't be able to say anything to anyone but by the smile on my face and the woody in my pants, people will know I have something special. Additional Comments: wow Miss Ashley! You are my kinda girl. I've always knows that we have to talk....chavez/chicas

Thank you ladies and gentlemen for your comments. It seems that the Sybian is not so much a purchase as it is an investment in memories. I have a question for those with experience. The Sybian can be purchased with a G spot stimulator. Given the rotateing action and the rib-like structure of the shafts on the regular attatchments, is the G-spot stimulator actually more effective at initiateing a G spot orgasm? .... chavez/chicas

I have always had a keen interrest in watching other peoples pleasures and one of the most interresting things for me is seeing a woman climax. I am curious about the ability of the Sybian (google if you are unfamiliar) to maximize a ladies orgasm(s). Are there members here that have experience with the Sybian? Has anyone attended a 'Sybian Party'? Comments please. ....chavez

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Thanks for asking ( and I want to hear both sides). I love the anticipation of a meeting; 1 or 2 communications prior to, are nice.I need a longer appointment , min. 2 hours because I crave the slow build-up. A light kiss ( maybe even just a continental peck on each cheek) at the introduction; shareing, deep kissing, and an ' unintentional peek at the goods' . A clean body( and I don't mean just out of the shower, I mean not overly painted or inked), touching, tasteing and having.Cuddles, more conversation and finally parting with each of us feeling we are better off for our meeting. Things that can spoil the whole sequence: " I don't do that" "No" "Not there" ( I'll gladly take directions but not rejections).Kissing an ash tray ( I accept people that smoke if they must, but most ladies freshen up thoroughly before kissing)and uhh body odor that is a little stronger that it should be. One lady told me that she ' loves the smell of a man' and I concur, I love the smell of a woman...chavez

Jeez , that take a lot away from a guy doing doggy with her. If wanted colourful pictures I would set a comic book on her back. lol Now one of my most beautiful memories is only a memory...:cry:....chavez

Have to agree with gemoney. Lynn is a full of fun , open minded and easy to talk to. She has a bit of a spinner body with breast enhancement. I don't remember any tatoos but she might have, although certainly not offensive ones. She is in your requested age shopping list. Hair is usually blond or red/ blond. She goes by the name "Lucious Lynn" when she advertises on EC. She doesn't always advertise on EC Winnipeg because she travels. Enjoy....chicas

Jolie has good points. CL had a purpose. I can never write a review on Cerb because I can only write a "good review". I have a problem with honesty; I believe in it ! If I can't write an honest revieve, any review I write here would be suspect. Net result is the 80% of ladies that deserve a good review from me can't get one here because they have to cover for the 20% that don't try. That is the rule. I don't make them, I just live by them... chavez

Not at all shocked. Upset, yes, but not shocked. Even my wife says that dening a man sexual expression is looking for trouble. Mind you she thinks once or twice a month is sufficient sexual expression for a man. She is now learning that a woman denied of sexual expression is not so great either.

Wowwwwww guys. I'd be the the last person in the world to report you, but you might be treading on sacred ground.

I am not a CL detracter. Actually I have had as many good encounters from CL as anywhere. My only objection to CL was the ladies fighting there . This phenomina was a fairly recent thing in Manitoba and added nothing to the hobby. Soleil is correct , there may be an influx of advertisers for a while on cerb. It may also restart an interrest in alternative sites of a regional interrest. Cl closeing doesn't stop things ; it opens new possibilities.....chavez

This is correct Soleil. It is unfortunate , but it is correct. I'm not even sure that the location should be out there, and probably not the date. As much as I'd love to say' throw it open', that is not the world we live in. ( at least this part of our world) I am almost the last person that will say be cautious, but 'be cautious'. That said I want everyone to enjoy themselves, and I hope to meet many of you someday.... chavez:-P

Beuti idea Emma! Thanks!!! I need a story that accounts for 3 or 4 hours at least. I'm way to honest to be a good liar. So far the only one that works for me is the " shopping for a special gift" A SO shouldn't ask too many questions. All I have to do is make sure I have a gift lined up ahead of time. Only down side is I can only use this one 3 times a year; Birthday, Christmas and anniversary. I'd like to push the envelope and include : our first date anniversary, our first house anniversary, our first move anniversary , our first pet anniversary. Hell our pets birthdays, ( present and past). Without a life altering blow to the head it might look suspicious. If I was catholic maybe I could throw in a gift for a few saints, I don't know. Like I said , I'm not a natural liar. For me it has to be simple to be believable, and not traceable; but the ' shopping for a gift' is great! Might try it this week. Hey, thanks a heap. More ideas, por favor..... chicas

Ravishing, Soleil makes a very fine birthday cake ;-) ... Ask her sometime . chavez