BownChickaBown

Excellent summary of a common occurrence. I've talked to a number of SPs about 'love' in the Industry, after having the word thrown around a fair number of times now when sharing companionship. (To note: IMHO, 'love' is confusing at the best of times, let alone when the lines are blurred like in this hobby.) One young lady said she no longer knew what 'love' was, which I found unfortunate, but understood with clashes in today's culture of polyamourous sexual relations vs. yesterday's culture of monogamous coupling (not saying either one is for better or for worse). (Then add delusional TV/Movie fantasy love and viola!) At least she was honest about it. I don't believe sex or marriage = love. Sex/marriage can most certainly be an act of love, as much they can be nothing about love (which I can only I assume are both better with love than without, cause sex is better (don't know about marriage - I'm a proud marriage virgin :) )). We've discussed the differences in Loving sex, saying things like I Love your ass, or I Love your oral skills, or I Love how you look today (example, sexy and radiant) - with none of it the same as saying 'I Love You'. *hair raises* Having an SP saying this during the throes of passion really got me thinking of what exactly this, in context of the hobby, was all about. (Who knows though - the World's one mixed-up place most days.) I did not reciprocate. I like the quote in Wedding Crashers about: What is 'true love'? True love is your soul’s recognition of its counterpoint in another. ...and the girl responds: "...cheesy but I like it." I concur. So, to the reality of unacquainted love, if ones flinging of woo is not countered by the other - then simply move on, as continuing to obsess beyond that then moves one into stalker territory (remember, don't use 'pet names' either! :P - sorry, joke from another thread). While one may like to believe it's flattering to the object of ones desire to have you desire them, if they do not want said desire, it's fruitless. It's like when you offer help to someone in need of help (from your perspective), but they don't want your help, as they don't think they need it - so it's useless try to help or keep nagging the person, you know what I mean? If they want help, and they know you are willing to give it, and they take it, then great, both parties are that much better off. I believe life is too short to waste time on fruitless endeavours. Reminds me of a quote I heard from an old guy once: There are 2 things in life you never chase - Buses and woman - as you will get left behind every single time. Ever try chasing an OC Transpo bus? Like love, Good Luck! The other reality is this is a hobby of fantasy, and a 'True GFE' can be made to feel like 'love' - as if the SP were your GF. (Would you not be in love with your GF if/when one has one?) ...but they are not your GF, SPs offer the 'experience' of them being your GF for which money is exchanged for time, albeit un-rushed. ...of which the 'experience' should end according to you agreement to only do it for whatever amount of time was paid for. In other words, after ones session, while it may be enjoyable to bask in the afterglow and adding footage to the ol' spank bank - believing one 'loves' the SP (again, just IMHO) is only opening a can or worms to ones own disappointment to the fact anything beyond business is highly unlikely. (To compliment: I can see in other perspectives how a hobbyist falling in 'love' with an SP can be a testament to the expert skills of the SP to act like your GF enough to make one (mistakenly) do so. ...with this a double-edged sword, as I am also sure SPs like repeat customers whom hold them on a pedestal (I know I would! A nice stroke to the ego, but more importantly - more business! After all, that's what this service industry is principally all about isn't it - business (vs. love)? (Not to say one can't love their work :) don't we all want a job that you 'love' so much it doesn't seem like work at all?)). Such a fine-line to walk that it's inevitably things get blurred sometimes - another part of the 'dance' I spose.) Regardless of how mind-blowingly amazing the SP may be and one would 'love' to find a real GF like that, whom was your true counterpoint - just 'love' your shared time together and appreciate it for what it is/was, and look elsewhere for your 'true love' where others are in the same business of finding the same (ex: plenty of fish). To me, this hobby is an outlet for passion/recreational sex while waiting for 'true love' with someone I know wants to be with me as much as I do them (sans monetary payment). ...but man, do I ever 'love' the practice! :) Be honest to yourself and to those around you and it will save yourself and others unnecessary heartache. Carpe Peaciem! (...or should that be: Carpe Lustiem! :P )

As someone else here on CERB once posted: The Best BBBJ I had was the last one I received, and the next one I get will be even better than the last :D 'Best' is subjective - thus perception is relative. In other words, there is no collective 'best' - only individual 'best'. Best of Luck! :P

Like anything nowadazes, try Google with the keywords to your query and see what happens. In this case, maybe: Micro-penis + condoms; even add: Canada (for geo-specificity)

re: fakery How many people use their Real Names here? I know I don't. (...but that's not unique to CERB - I don't use my real name for most anything: on my art, for my books, booking hotels/restaurants, contest forms, etc.) Isn't a majority of the names used in this business fake to begin with? I wouldn't expect anything less, and rightfully so - as privacy is a highly valued commodity. In other words, there's usually something 'fake' between Hobbyists' and SPs right from the get go. ...but I find this is easy to overcome by jumping into the fantasy for which a rendezvous is to me. (The brain is the biggest sex organ!) Fake SP names, as can be pet names, are part of the fantasy for some. Therefore, to revert to something generic is how some people bridge the 2 areas of 'fakeness', by not using the fake name given, but using a 'pet name', which for some people, is a sign of intimacy. Since time is money, unrushed as it may be, one has to admit, things can go from 0 to 100 km/h mighty fast. Some experiences require no names at all. Even the greatest ones :D One of the best birds I ever 'dated' (when living overseas) never knew my name for 3 weeks (as much as we worked together for 4 weeks before that), while I only called her 'me duckie' until we were in a situation where she was introducing me to her flatmate, and realized she didn't know. I thought that was hot! So I introduced myself to her (my GF), and her to I, before then introducing me to her flatmate. Up until that time - names didn't matter, we just lived in the moment. Another fun/endearing part of our tryst. If I may suggest, there is a 2-Step solution to minimizing this, and other pet peeves: 1) List on ones CERB Profile/Website ones 'Dislikes' and 2) then in ones Advertisements, state something like this: "Be Sure to Read My Profile/Website Before Contacting Me - Thanks!" People just don't 'know' these idiosyncratic things. I believe this is a case where ignorance is not bliss. Bring on the information age!

LOL - Exactly.

Good on you YS! Great example of poly-organizing :) Now you have me thinking about what I might do Wed. evening :motion:

Yes - Bown Chicka Bown, WOWN! REEEE-eeee-EEEEE-eeee :D Followed by: Hello Nurse!!

I could not agree more - she has been a long-time Top 5 for me. I concur re: Hot! Hot! HOT! - she is new to my Top 5. A Canadian lady I am rather smitten with is: Izabelle Desjardins :motion: MusiquePlus VJ / Model / Sexy Woman Extraordinaire!

I believe that's from Nfld. Is it commonly used in CB too? (I say it all the time up here/everywhere.) In places around the World, such use of terms instead of exact names is somewhat the norm (albeit by an aging demographic if I do say so myself), and is seen as a sign of respect to be comfortable enough as a culture to address other community members this friendly-meaning way. (Typically, in smaller/medium-sized, close-knit communities from what I've experienced.) To say its the calling-sign of a stalker makes me LMAO. Really thou. As an example, I'm too lazy to squish a bug outside arms-reach (where it can keep being free), let alone get-up and go stalk it. :S I am too lazy to even stalk celery at the grocery store 3 blocks away when I can order-out and have supper delivered to me every night. ...but I digress. I agree thou, the norm for the culture in other parts of Canada and the World is largely the opposite, for whatever reasons. Perspective is relatively subjective, and social norms evolve geo-specifically and varies from person to person. Variety is the spice of life. :) (Having all the same looking ladies in the World would be boring - No?) On-going amalgamation of the Canadian Mosaic, and the Global Commonwealth as a whole, is now inter-mixing all kinds of cultural idiosyncrasies. 'tis is life. (Sidebar: IMHO, there are at least 3 Guarantees in life: Death, Taxes and Change - of which, Globalization combines all 3) Rather than curse such things, I find it easier to educate others to the specifics of my irk (great thread Emma!), and explain to them how I would find such behaviour offensive. If they rudely persist, then one would know that person is a jerk. If they apologize and don't do it again, then it was just a simple difference in communications (shthpns). Generally in Australia, if one gets teased hard and joked about personally, it's a sign of liking you, respecting you. If one is spoken to prim-and-proper, it's a sign of not being liked. (I have personal experience with this, after continually being politely asked if I were American by the locals, of which I retorted: I am proud to say I am. Canadian. :) (Yes, I lost my Newfie accent decades ago.) ...after which the Aussies would mostly say: No way, I love Canadians - wanna beer? *then turn to their buddy* and say something like: This a*hole is from Canada! (This all without even asking my name yet!) I found it endearing - felt like home. While I have been called a lot of things, I still only reply with the classic: Just don't call me late for supper! :P [PS: Now, what about those jerks who don't use turn-signals???]

Congrats - only 13.5 years to go and then you can light-up! I'm aiming for 10 years :) Best of Luck and Success in All Your Endeavours!

Ditto. Now... Got a NCR Listing of Reds? :D

Beef Burger: The Works (Aussie Burger (w/ egg and beet) w/ sweet potato fries; now that Lick's is closed) Pizza: Georgie's Pizza on Carling (Georgie's Special w/ Italian Sausage instead of Onion; even better re-heated in the oven) Steak: Prime 360 (...because I had a memorable night there (only me and my date in the whole restaurant) and drank some really nice scotch) Chinese Food: Rubys Inn at Bank and Walkley (for order-out) Chinese Food: 'Something' Dragon Restaurant on Somerset (for authentic dining) Asian Food: Mandarin @ Olgilvie (for authentic dining) Vietnamese: Vietnamese Kitchen on Bank (before it closed when Tommy & Lefevre burnt down, I love their Deep Fried Pineapple) Mongolian: Mongolian Hot Pot @ Billings Bridge (fun yummy, dining experience) Wine & Cheese: Vineyards in the Market (largest wine selection around and nice International Cheese Platter) Unique Dining: Aboriginal Sweetgrass Bistro (great fusion with Bison Burgers, Grilled Buffalo, Wild Boar Baby Back Ribs (which are to die for)) Fish & Chips: The Newfoundland Pub (Well, who else would make it better :P ) Chicken Burger: Mary Brown's in Kingston (Big Mary & Taters - Ya Heard Me! (It's worth the drive)) Pub Food: Royal Oak (any of them) & Arrow and Loon in the Glebe (because the A&L delivers :D ) Bacon Mac & Cheese: Hard Rock Cafe in the Market (but they won't deliver :P ) Those are my recommendations above for yummy eats in Ottawa, but wanted to know if anyone could recommend: Where is the best 'Spicy Thai Chicken Noodle Coconut Vegetable Soup'?

Right now I'm reading 3 books, on and off again: Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance by Robert M. Pirsig Money by Galbraith The God Delusion by Richard Dawkins ...but I seem to be doing more writing nowadays than reading. (PS: Oh, and of course, like everyone else, I read Playboy monthly ;) )

No explanation needed - this photo speaks a 1000 words! hehe, so it's not just me, as I tried the Image tool and C&P'd the URL, but it doesn't display the pic :S

Michelle_MA in Ottawa :shock:

Annessa in Ottawa

Amanda Ryan in Ottawa [ PS: I can't get the Embedded Pic thing to work, so above is a link. If someone can PM and explain to this newbie how to post I can, then I will come clean this up. Thanks! ]

Great Recommendation - Sounds like you showed her a nice Welcome to Ottawa.

IMHO, the ideal location for Ottawa (like London and Sydney if you follow the Commonwealth) is the Glebe. All amenities are here and it's relatively safe and quiet (and to mention MILF central) ...but unfortunately, way over-priced. While I rent and have a sweet deal ($750/mn 2Brm All Util. & Laundry Incl. w/ No Lease) - I'm sure it's rare for this neighbourhood. Being (somewhat) bilingual and having a French last name, I have considered buying in the Gatineau Hills area (for more of the nature-feel), but have heard horror stories from uni-lingual English speakers living there only to move back very disappointed (and out money). I'll also agree that the commute from Barrhaven and other outlying neighbourhoods are agonizing at best, with the city broke as a joke and construction jobs takings YEARS (ex: King Edward Street) - stuffing-up most all major arteries; and only getting worse. Oh, and as a knock - the Scotiabank Place location sucks! (haha, a favourite topic to bemoan here in Ottawa.) Best of Luck and Success in Your Move andflemcol - Welcome to Ottawa!

EWWW, LOL - funny t'storm - G1!

Congrats and Kudos Cato! I enjoy your posts and look forward to many more from such a positive community member. Hip-hip Hooray!

IMHO, Ontario SC are 'very conservative' compared to those of Quebec - simply because of the difference in Laws. I have never been to an Ottawa SC, as the Quebec-side offers just that much better an experience and more bang-for-your-buck. This was even highlighted a couple years back in GQ Magazine whereby due to said 'looser' Laws - Montreal was voted #1 Road Trip destination for Guys in North America. I'm glad you had a fun trip to Ottawa Mandalay Bay, as this sleepy city can use more vibrant people like yourself to make the nightlife a little more bearable. For example, where are the late-night Cabarets?

Like any enterprise, people have the right to refuse to do business with anyone they don't want to. Due diligence and condoms are the new norm gents. :pimp: Welcome to the New Millennium! :D

lol - ones gotta love the economics of it all. Reminds me of a quote I heard once... "Dating and girlfriends are just an economic liability!"