Megan'sTouch

Well of course we hate it. I hate paying rent, paying taxes, etc. But that doesn't mean there is a viable alternative. I've seen girls do that because they think it will make them money. Sometimes it works. I personally find it rather pathetic. Some guys do fall for it. They usually view themselves as being above the dancers (and women in general) and they feel good about "saving" the dancer. It's extremely easy to sell one lapdance (the price of the housefee) in a 5-hour shift, but it is possible in theory to not sell one. In all the time I danced I never once saw a dancer work a whole shift without selling a dance. Ultimately stripping is a business, and self-employed people and businesses of all kinds fail. That's life.

Thank you Isabella! I have limited availability at the moment as I'm filling up very quickly, but I am accepting a few new clients. The best advice I can give you is to do as much research as possible on the provider or the massage spa. I've had several clients lately tell me they've had bad experiences with providers advertising here on CERB, and the provider didn't have positive feedback! Advertising here is not enough; make sure the provider or spa has consistent positive feedback if you want to maximize your chances for a great experience.

I'm actually pro-house fee from a strictly labour perspective and I've worked in both models. The first is where I'm an employee and paid to work and paid for stage shows. The second is where I'm an independent contractor and I run my own business and make my own money. When I worked under the first model, I was paid $50 per stage show and I did 4 stage shows per night. Even if I didn't do any dances, I still made $200 per night. As an employee, I was told what days I would work, the hours, what music I would dance to, what to wear onstage, etc. All the normal things you would expect of an employee. As an independent contractor, I run the show, and this is very important to me! Believe it or not, it's actually empowering to the dancers to pay a house fee and maintain their independent contractor status. Another common thing is to not charge a house fee but to take a percentage of the dances. This benefits the low-income earning dancers because if they sell 2 dances and the cut is $5 per dance, they only pay $10. But if a top earning dancer sells 30 dances, she will pay $150 to the club. It only makes sense to have a labour model that rewards the best workers. Also, the house fee system encourages more women to work. When I was an employee and paid to give shows, I was under strict scrutiny for my appearance and they would only hire women that the manager considered to be really hot. I understand that if he's paying me $200/night, he wants to be impressed with my looks and my stage show. However, with the house fee system, most clubs are more than happy to let the dancer work and take her money. This benefits the clients too because more diversity increases the likelihood you'll find a dancer you love. I'll also add that I went home with more money every night when working at clubs that charged me to work than when I was paid $200 right off the bat to show up. I don't care where the money comes from, I just want to go home with money.

You may not be asking for sex, but if I client said to me "Come back to my hotel. I don't want sex," I would be highly suspicious that once I arrived at his location, he would want sex. Also, police and club owners wouldn't buy the argument "I was just soliciting him to go back to his place to dance, not for sex." It is risky to meet clients outside the club. It's very difficult to comment on income of dancers because it varies so greatly, but the top earning dancers are making $100/hr or more. The worst dancers might be making $20/hr. The club makes money off drink sales, door fees, and house fees. House fees are what dancers pay to work. Most clubs it is about $20-25 and you are also expected to tip. When I was dancing regularly, my "tipout" was $55 including a cab home so I started every shift $55 in debt.

This is true. I had a client who wanted to take me out to dinner once on a Saturday night. No sex, nothing in private, just dinner. I quoted him $600 which might sound excessive, but I had to give up a Saturday night of dancing (in other words, about $600) to do the dinner with him. He respected that. I also had many guys offer me $500-1000 for sex and they couldn't understand why I would turn it down. Reality is, I could lose my job or be arrested for soliciting sex in the club. $1000 is less than a week's income. Is it really worth losing your job for less than a week's income?? It also didn't make sense to me when they wanted private shows for $500 or so because I could make $500 in the club where I feel safe. Why would I take $500 to go off with a stranger when I can make $500 in a place where I am safe?? Of course, this is very different with long-term regular clients. I'm not trying to be a negative Nancy... just throwing out the dancer's perspective :)

I have a pretty strong opinion that it is wrong to mutilate the body of a person, including a baby, without their consent unless there is a medical reason to do so. This opinion is strongly entwined with my pro-choice and pro-sex-work opinions. A person's body belongs to him or herself to do with as he or she chooses. Interestingly, statistics show that it is becoming less and less common to circumcize baby boys. I believe any boy today would be in the minority to be circumcized. From my experiences and the statistics, younger people are less and less likely to support circumcision.

1. More quality time to live. Life goes by too fast. I would like more years and more hours in each day. 2. More quality friends. I find it hard to meet people whose company I genuinely enjoy. I like people who are extremely intelligent, sensitive, and who have extremely liberal values.

I'm an erotic dancer and I offer a private striptease with my massage. I know Jazy also does so. I don't think most strippers would offer a private striptease except to their regulars and they would probably charge a lot more than women here on CERB. The reason being, it's difficult to negotiate safety, a place, boundaries, etc. Now that I have that all worked out, I can charge a reasonable rate. When I was only an erotic dancer and not doing massage, I would have charged more than the regular rate of $20/song to meet someone outside of the club. Even now, I don't offer outcalls or striptease for more than one man (ie party, etc.). There is also the risk of legal trouble when meeting a client from a strip club outside of the club. It could be soliciting in a public place. I'm much more comfortable meeting with on CERB than in strip clubs!! Believe it or not, many erotic dancers are against escorting, massaging, etc. I think it's because the sex industry is stigmatized and they like to set themselves apart. That is why I think many erotic dancers are not interested in associating themselves with CERB. You can also get into trouble with a club if they find out you're doing escorting on the side and you could get fired. They believe you might solicit clients in the club and draw police attention.

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I can't speak for everyone, but my first website was shut down for adult content. I no longer upload photos with nudity. Hopefully this will be resolved when I finally get a new website.

I disagree completely. I have much better experiences with men when we are clear on what's allowed, what's not, what I like, what he likes, what we don't like, etc. Negotiating during the actual encounter ruins the moment.

When I say the cops are awful, I don't mean each cop as an individual. I mean Ottawa Police Services as a body.

I'm going to have to vehemently disagree on that one.

I'm proud to be the first to nominate this post. Some men think that the exchange of money meant consent goes out the window. Consent is still necessary, when we say no you must stop! To do otherwise is rape/sexual assault. I've never encountered men who don't listen to "No!" through massage, but I did when I was dancing. Being in the the company of a man who won't accept "no, please stop" is very scary.

Canada's Criminal Code refers to a "common bawdy-house? and defines it as follows:"... a place that is kept or occupied, or resorted to by one or more persons, for the purpose of prostitution or the practice of acts of indecency.? It has commonly been said that incalls are illegal where as outcalls are legal. Looking at two scenarios: Person A is a hobbiest who sees approx. 3 escorts per week in his own home. Person B is an escort who sees approx. 3 clients per week in her own home. Why would Person B be operating a bawdy house, but not Person A?

Jolie - You can PM me and I'll post it. I'm sure it would be appreciated.

I am usually very good at timing the session to be exactly the right amount. I don't extend sessions, even if I want to, because I have a friend who acts as my "security guard" and I have to call her within 5 minutes of finishing each appointment or she comes over to make sure I'm safe.

Even if I had the fantasy of fucking 10+ guys at the same time, there is no way I would feel safe meeting up with 10 guys from Craig's List at a hotel. There is something seriously not right about this.

If an SP is offering you sex without a condom, you can pretty sure she's offering it to all her clients.

Interestingly, I always book in advance and very rarely accept a last-minute appointment from someone new. 2/3 of my no-shows were last-minute bookings.

I've only had 3 no-shows in 7 months so I count myself lucky. I have cancelled last-minute when the client was already here on only one occasion and it was when my cat was bleeding and it was a tumour and I had to call the vet and put her to sleep. I still feel bad about that because I was crying on the phone with the client, but he was very nice and very forgiving. He even asked me if he could do anything for me!

I consider a gem to be a gentlemen whose company I enjoy on a regular basis.

As a massage provider, I disagree. I expect ALL my clients to be charming, courteous, and clean. Doing so will get you the services I offer, not extras.

There is a lot of contact at strip clubs, which is legal, but surprisingly not much sex going on in or outside the club. I think a lot of guys like to brag and that can skew what is actually going on.

Sex workers and their clients are highly stigmatized and so I think it's normal for one to want to separate him or herself, though it is also delusional. When I first started stripping, I told myself and others "Well you see, there is no penetration and no exchange of bodily fluids, so it's not prostitution." Yeah I rub my nude body all over guys, but I'm not like those nasty prostitutes was essentially what I was saying. Over time, I have accepted that I am just like escorts. Sure, I don't offer FS or BJ, but it's pretty damn close and ultimately not really that different. There is no need to distinguish myself as a way of justifying my work. I accept that I am a sex worker and there is nothing wrong with this! I feel this is what you are trying to do, S_A. There is also a lot of stigma surrounding clients. "You're so low class to hire a prostitute. You're paying for sex because you can't get any in real life. I can't believe you would sleep with a hooker. Did she give you a disease?" I have heard so many clients say things like "I'm not like the rest of the guys you see" assuming all the guys I see are creepy assholes which is simply not true! There is the need to distinguish himself. Maybe it makes you feel better to say "She's a guest in my home and if she likes me and wants to be intimate with me, then she may" but ultimately you are paying for sex and there is nothing wrong with this. I'm a lot happier now that I've stopped constantly justifying myself by distinguishing myself from hookers, and maybe you would be happier if you accepted what you are doing and stopped distinguishing yourself from a John. I just woke up so forgive me if this is not perfectly clear.