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Is it acceptable for a client to turn around and walk out on an appointment if the SP is not what he expected based on expectations set in ads? It's happened a few times to me where the person at the door wasn't the person I was expecting to see. Once, I walked the other way - the other times I just went with it for fear of hurting her feelings. How often does that happen, and what is the feeling of SPs on this kind of behavior? Would you prefer we just go with it, or walk away?

Desk Hair up or hair down?

Agreed. They are very well reviewed and I've found them to be my #1 agency to book with. I've noticed that they send fewer and fewer SPs to the Ottawa region, which is a shame and a loss to us for sure.

Very well written. I'd love to meet you someday.

Very well written. You've inspired mr to read all of your posts. Keep up the interesting work sir!

I love you MiaBella. I couldn't have said it better. I'm going to stay out of this one, but to be honest I don't see a problem with someone asking this question.

Another good article: http://www.singlescafe.net/step-down-techniques.html A Great Way To Last Longer In Bed - That 99% Of Men Have Never Even Tried! by Edward White Ever heard of arousal step-down techniques? How about the PC muscle and Kegels? If you're like most guys, you probably haven't. And as such, most men - unaware of the numerous ways they can boost their sexual skill and 'lasting' power - regularly produce mediocre performances in bed, leaving themselves disappointed and the women they're with disillusioned and usually orgasmless. It's a real shame. In a poll, 93% of men asked, said they'd like to last longer in bed before ejaculating - but 100% of those men were unaware of how they could achieve such a seemingly impossible feat. The truth is, it's not impossible (or even difficult) to maximise your sexual performance and attain complete control over how long you boogie for and generally get on down with the ladies. So, let's take a look at one sexual method that'll allow you massive control over your arousal levels and always give you the choice of when to cum or when to continue. During sex, most men begin to lose control of themselves (in terms of ejaculation!) at around the 2 or 3 minute mark - which is usually midway through the first sexual position. And what a letdown ejaculating at this point would be! So, that's usually the first point at which you'll use this technique. It involves two steps. The first takes place in your mind - which is the root of many a male's sexual performance troubles. 1. When you first feel those telltale sensations in your penis (the heightened sensitivity and energy that let you know that if you carry on doing what you're doing you'll soon explode) don't panic! Too many men are pushed over the edge, right to ejaculation, because they mentally begin to panic when they feel they're close to orgasm. Panic phrases rush through their heads, like: "Uh oh, I'm gonna blow!" and "Not again, this is going to be embarrassing." Instead of letting these counter-productive thoughts fill your mind and quicken the onset of orgasm, instead calmly say in your head: "Okay, I'm close to ejaculating. Time to use an arousal step-down technique." Then move onto step number two. 2. The most sensitive part of your penis is the top of the shaft and especially the head. To decrease its stimulation (without stopping the 'action') slowly and deeply thrust into your partner, as far as you can go and she can pleasurably take. Then, gently grind your hips, wiggling your pubic bone (the hard area above your penis, about 8 inches down from your belly button) on her vagina. To her, this seems and feels like a wonderful stroke variation, which gives her external clitoral stimulation (the number one way to make any woman orgasm). However, behind the scenes, it's momentarily decreasing your stimulation, enabling you to last longer. This happens because when you plunge deep into her, your penis enters a wider area of her vagina, which lessens its contact and stimulation. Then, to cap it off, you grind and wiggle, instead of thrusting in and out, which further decreases the intense sensations of sex. After 30 seconds or so, your arousal levels will have dropped enough for you to restart your thrusting. By using this technique, you're able to control your urge to pop without stopping sex and while giving your partner extra sexual stimulation. Now how much better a technique is that for tackling premature ejaculation when compared to what most people consider to be effective techniques? Things like: "Count backward from 100" and "Think of dead puppies!" Sex, as you well know, is all about fun. Using the 2-step technique above, you can fully enjoy the experience - without the worry of it all being over too soon!

Megan, my apologies if you feel that I have been condescending. It was not the intent of my post. When I read your post that included Should we be made to feel bad for this? And make no mistake, this thread has done just that for many clients on here. Wow, what does your salary have to do with anything? Are you trying to sound important and lend some level of authority to your statement by including that little tidbit? If I made more than you, would that lend more credence to my view? Sad... Nor have I, and if you want to talk about condescending, your post has to take the cake. Either way, their feelings certainly do matter to me, in fact I'll be the first to jump to their defence if someone is trampling on their feelings. All I'm saying is that the door swings both ways. We shouldn't be made to feel bad for the way we want to pursue this hobby either. Nobody here is exploiting these women or making them post or do anything that they aren't ok with. They put their own pictures on this board - freely - and the expectation of privacy of those pictures is out the window at that point. Reuse of those pictures on this board can and is governed by the rules of the board - but if someone decides to steal a pic from here and post it on CL tomorrow as her own, there's no recourse, no expectation of ownership anywhere away from this board. And when I say "the customer is always right", I may have overstepped a bit - obviously a client can't force a SP to do anything that isn't on the menu, and YMMV is a given - so that notion is wrong in many ways. I agree with the win-win business model, but when a client is made to feel bad about the way they are going about their recreation, it can sometimes seems like WIN-win At least we agree on this part...:roll: And by the way, just because I happen to be one of the lone voices with respect to these topics in the threads, it should in no way reflect that I'm alone in my views. I've been getting multiple PMs (more than I ever expected) from hobbiests that are applauding my points of view including statements like "thanks for TOFTT on this". The majority of them don't want to post in public for fear of reprisal in quality of service... There is a silent majority/minority that is pleased that I'm representing them in these discussions.

In your user CP, even though you've changed your preference to not receive emails for subscribed threads , that will only work on the threads you subcribe to from now on. You have to change the settings or remove the older subscribed threads. If you click on "all subscribed threads" in the user CP, look on the right side of each there's a notification column. If there's e-mail in any of those, then you have to change that to none. Hope this helps.

Best article I've read on the subject: http://www.menshealth.com/men/health/sexual-health/6-steps-to-beat-pe/article/294a99edbbbd201099edbbbd2010cfe793cd Men, you can last longer. For years, I silently battled premature ejaculation and test-drove every bizarre remedy I stumbled upon. Follow these exercises that finally worked for me. Master masturbation. Masturbate with a woman's orgasm in mind, not your own. In other words, take your time: Work up to 15 minutes. Bring yourself close to the point of no return, but don't let yourself ejaculate until time is up. Squeeze. If you're overheating during masturbation or sex, stop and squeeze right below the head of your penis. Apply firm pressure with your thumb and forefinger and focus the pressure on the urethra--the tube running along the underside of the penis. The squeeze technique, developed by those icons of sex therapy, Masters and Johnson, pushes blood out of the penis and momentarily decreases sexual tension and represses the ejaculatory response. Pinpoint ejaculatory inevitability. Masters and Johnson broke the process of sexual response into four phases: excitement, plateau, orgasm, and resolution. It's the plateau and orgasm phases we're most concerned with, as most men crash through the former, straight into the latter. The trick is to slow down and recognize that there's a spectrum of feelings throughout the process of sexual response and to recognize your own point of ejaculatory inevitability. Rate your sexual excitement on a scale of 1 to 10. Try keeping yourself at 7. Sexercise. Do your Kegels. A Kegel is an exercise that helps tighten the pubococcygeal (PC) muscles of the pelvic floor. Both men and women have them, and you can become familiar with the muscle group by cutting off the flow of urine and then starting and stopping it repeatedly. (Begin with a full bladder.) Once you have the exercise down, practice your Kegels anywhere: at your desk, behind the wheel. Tighten your PC muscles and hold for a count of 10, then release. Practice in sets of 10. Stronger PC muscles will help you exercise ejaculatory control when you approach the point of inevitability. Press, don't thrust. Tease her, taunt her: Press the head of your penis into her clitoral head. Linger in her vaginal entrance, where the most sensitive nerve endings are. When you do have intercourse, focus on small, shallow movements that penetrate the first 2 to 3 inches of her vaginal canal. Press your penis against her G-spot. You'll last longer if you're not thrusting vigorously. Show a little courtesy. Ladies first, gentlemen--and I'm talking about more than just holding the door open. Keep your woman happy. Women have an innate capacity to experience multiple orgasms. When you help her to her first one, it relieves you of some of the pressure to please and the psychological anxiety that feeds into PE. Use your fingers; use your mouth.

Of course we wouldn't want our name/handles put out there like that, but we're hiring you for your advertized services, not the other way around? We make no claims about our bodies or sexual skillset - we don't toss around statistics about ourselves or offer up any photos. You're offering services for money, and therein lies the difference. You advertise your bodies in pictures to entice us to hire you. You are putting yourself out there as providers of sexual services, the menu clearly advertised, discretion assured, therefore you can't be surprised when the clients want to figure out amongst themselves whether or not your services are the ones they want or if the other SP is more to their liking. If I were a male escort, would I not advertize the size & hardness of my member? Would I not show pictures of my abs, chest and butt? Are these not marketing tools to get more clients interested? If so, I couldn't be shocked if my clients started discussing these same characteristics in an open forum... hell, since this forum is all about positive reviews, the more often you're mentioned, the better it is for your business, no?

Many of you have already been PM'ing me asking for the results of my search for the best BBBJ in Ottawa - for those of you that are indeed interested in the concensus of who tops the list, PM me and I'll let you know. At the moment, there's a clear favourite (with one very detailed description). Keep sending me your recommendations and I'll do my best to deliver on the end result.

Yeah, God forbid someone asks for public recommendations on a recommendation board... Mod, am I out of line with respect to CERB policies? If so, I'll be sure to change my ways. Additional Comments: I'm not asking you to rank them or rate them, I'm asking for your collective recommnedations wrt BBBJs. This thread doesn't objectify them nor does it dehumanize them - it's asking for recommendations with respect the services that they advertise offer. I should be well within my rights to ask opinions as to which services are considered more bang for my buck.

Oh man, I have a feeling that I'm going to pay for this post... but here it goes! I'm asking for other people's assessment of their best experience. I can take it or leave it since I know it to be subjective, but I'm still interested in what others have to say. It doesn't mean that it'll be to the same standard or to my liking, but it's a start... I'm ok with that. Fair enough. Upon further reflection, I actually agree with Megan. I used to consider myself a boob guy, but regardless of the quality of the boobs it's also important for a SP to have the whole package, not just physically but in attitude as well. You could be the hottest physical specimen on the planet, but it you're rude or ignorant on first meeting, then I'll probably pass. The same logic could apply to services (in this case BBBJ) where if someone tells me that an SP gives the best BBBJ and she's rude or ignorant on first meeting, then that BBBJ will probably never get a chance ot happen. I prefer to not compare women or their services to food, it's not a fair comparison. Your trade is unique, and very emotionally charged so it's impossible to seperate the service from the provider. Even if you were to pick a different trade that is skill based, such as a painter, it wouldn't be a fair example but probably a more accurate in comparison. If a client, such as myself, was looking for a particular service, like say a BBBJ. And I want the best mind blowing BBBJ I've ever had, but I didn't know who to "hire" to give me that service. Would you expect me to go to the Rec forum and read through all the Recs to find some description matching what I'm looking for? That could be like finding a needle in a haystack and there would be no guarantee that I'd find that gem that I know must exist. Not only that, but the whole purpose of this thread is so that I won't have to "try someone out" at random. I'd prefer to get feedback from fellow CERBites as to what they suggest, so I can find the level of service that I'm hoping to eventually discover. I totally agree - but that doesn't mean that sharing great experiences is a bad idea?!? As stated earlier, it's subjective and those reading this thread should keep that in mind. Wow, why is that Meg? I was under the impression that CERB was actually geared towards clients sharing their collective experiences with each other so that we could better assess those services and the providers? Is it out of line for me to say in a rec that a SP gave me the best BBBJ I've ever had? Is that somehow being disrespectful to all the other SPs that have given me BBBJs in the past? Or is it just the fact that it's an independant thread trying to amalgamate those great experiences? Really??? If you paruse the Rec section of this board, you'll find a zillion DETAILED positive accounts of experiences shared between SPs and clients. Most of the SPs advertise these Recs in their ads or on their websites. Also, most SPs aren't shy about listing their services, with the caveat that YMMV. That's always understoof... Do you really think that they'd prefer to keep these recs secret? I'm not seeing the whole discretion side to this argument, but I do respect those who chose to not post details of encounters but to simply send out a nod to a good time. OK, I see your point and I can empathize with your perspective. I always felt bad for the kid that would get picked last in gym class - poor guy was singled out as the worst option for the team. That sucks. But that's not what this thread is about. I'm by no means trying to single out the worst BJs out there, so if you're not on the list that doesn't mean that you're bad at it... it just means you're not the absolulte best at it in the minds of your clients. If you're ego gets bruised because you're not identified as the best BBBJ provider by one or more of your clients, I submit that perhaps you could use that as constructive feedback and figure out how better to provide that service for them??? That said, should we also then remove the Rec section of the board. I mean, if you don't ever get a positive Rec, would that not hurt your feelings too? What if your clients consistantly posts recs of other SPs, but never about you, would that not be a blow to your ego too? Should we shun the rec section of this board? As Cato said, let's not forget what we're here for... Clearly not everyone is on their game all the time and circumstances will dictate the mileage you get as YMMV, but I'm not just asking one person to give me their perspective. Assuming that the person with the dog or the forest growing out of his nut-sack are rare situations, you'd likley have other clients that would be happy to include your name on the list of best BBBJ - that is if you're skills are actually up to that standard. No? I'm ok with the PM approach, and I've been getting many PMs regarding this topic. Oddly enough, most people have been suggesting the same SP, which leads me to believe they might be onto something... As for hurting people's feelings, it was not the intent of this thread. Yeah, I'm with you there. I wasn't the one who compared the ladies to pizza. I don't agree with that analogy either. [Helmet on, kevlar vest on, protective eye-wear on, brace for impact this is going to be a rough ride...]