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Yeah I agree with this. I think feminism killed it. Women always influence the kind of men present in a given generation. If you look at some of the men these days and how they behave, what does that say about the selection criteria of women? Perhaps chivalry is not high up on the list hence it's slow death.

Only if there is no sexual tension from both parties.

I don't like middle men when it comes to this business. It would have to be independent. Having said that, places like Montreal are all about the agency scene.

Hey! You got the gist of my post! My post wasn't meant to be mean-spirited, just a reminder to the OP the impact of what she was asking from a man's perspective. If she's fine with being evaluated in such a way, then by all means have your poll. Just don't get hurt if the men respond in kind. I don't like double-standards. I sympathize with the ladies on this. I do sometimes read recos that are very graphic and get the feeling that the writer is doing it for his own ego or is trying to write some short romantic novel. Everyone has their own style but I don't care for these kinds of reviews. Again, guys that reco and include tightness are lame and I'm sure I'm not the only one that feels that way. Fortunately, I think these kinds of reviews are in the minority though, but as mentioned, I don't believe a poll thread was ever conducted much like what you are asking now. As a side note regarding all your points on women being objectified by their body parts, I don't think you understand the subtle difference between penis size and the other comparisons you mentioned. Breasts, legs, etc. can all be changed through surgery or hard work. In addition, although women might lose some tightness after birth, kegels do restore a lot of that with practice. Men unfortunately, do not have any SAFE options to improve his member's size. Therefore what we are born with is what we have till we die. So you can imagine it's a more sensitive issue than what a woman may deal with. I know you started this out in fun Cristy and I don't have a problem with that either. I am neither big nor small and I am totally happy with what I have, but I am just thinking of members who might not see it that way. For some guys, this is a fantasy (or have self-esteem issues) and the truth might burst that bubble.

So after the ladies list the best value package of Cerb members, why don't the guys put out their own list and list the "tightest" ladies? Maybe this puts things into perspective for you Cristy.

Nope! Too many other available women to date.

I agree. It is totally a social construct. But that social construct through 1000s of years has brought us to our society today. Order has allowed our civilization to flourish and helped augment our biological drives. First, I would disagree. "Natural" or "normal" can be mathematically quantified. It is the mean in a well distributed sample space, ie. it is what the majority people are doing. Secondly, yes! There are far fewer animals in monogamous relationships! However, this is primarily due to their mating strategies as Phaedrus so eloquently summarized below. The fact is, humans have committed to an evolutionary strategy to provide for a few young as best as possible in hopes that their offspring will survive and thrive versus playing the odds that one out of few will make it. You've said this yourself "monogamy requires an individual to invest its entire reproductive potential on a single mate" Simply put, there is far more energy and resources required to raising a single human child since babies are so helpless much longer than any other mammal counterpart. Now, this is my opinion and I don't have facts to back this up, I believe that more people are engaged in polyamorous relations these days due to the fact that we have a social welfare crutch. We have evolved into a society that now dedicates it's resources and time to help raise these children thus allowing the father/mother to engage in these relations with good confidence that their children will survive to the next generation even if one parent does not stick around. There is a reason why women secrete hormones to their partners when they are pregnant. It creates a hormonal change in the man to become more of a docile man rather than a horny, sperm spreading male which is his biological directive. As any female can attest, being pregnant is a very vulnerable state to be in. Both before and after birth, it makes sense if they have a partner dedicated to ensuring her well being and that of her child. A male will instinctly have more interest to support if that child is biologically his. I think evolution has catered to this mutually beneficial arrangement. I have nothing more to add to this well written post! As a final note, I am not here to bash individuals who choose a polyamorous lifestyle but to present the other side. As it is quite clear, I am on the other side of the fence on this issue but I respect your choices on how you want to live your lives. I do not agree however, that monogamy is possessive. It is a choice between two people who decide to commit to each other and like a polyamorous relationship, it requires constant communication in order to succeed. I just can't discredit that it so happens to be evolutionarily successful thus far. We are all still around aren't we? ;)

I don't think it's nasty shit we picked up from growing up. It's something that is programmed into our DNA. If you follow evolutionary theory, we are programmed to reproduce with OUR genes. As men, if we commit to a female, we are dedicating our time, energy and resources to that female and subsequent offspring. If the female is fooling around with other males, we in turn 'lose' out as there is the potential for that offspring that we are caring for is not ours and thereby defeating our purpose. This is why I think men are less tolerant of polyamourous relationships if they are serious about wanting a family. We don't want external factors jeopardizing our chance of passing on our genes. There are reasons why certain animals are very territorial and will defend their mates fiercely against other rivals (sometimes to the death), ie. lions.

Clean, reliable, plentiful and cheap energy. This would solve a lot of the worlds problems.

Hi everyone! I thought about posting this topic on other boards but I feel most of the people here are mature, respectful and will probably have some good insight. I find myself thinking that people who are exposed to more cultures and have traveled the world are more open, tolerant and accepting of others from different backgrounds. I currently live in a small city where I find a large majority of people that I meet are the opposite of what I have described. Of course I am of the visible minority and the population here is predominately caucasian so sometimes I feel self-conscious about it. I originally came from a fairly large canadian city and have never felt this way before coming here. I realize a large part of my problem is in my head and I have to make an effort pushing those kinds of thoughts aside; however, I feel that may be some truth to what I have proposed. So what does this have to do with SPs? Well, I gather that most if not all SPs have come across people of all races and would therefore have a better perspective on the topic than most. My question to the SPs is, when you entered the industry did you have prejudices and have they changed or have they been reinforced since working? As for dating, yes I am trying to date at the moment but find it difficult in my current city. All too often I find someone with x,y,z requirements that I fit but I really never get the chance beyond a glance at my profile or a simple hello. Thanks in advance to those who respond!

For me, this sentence tells me a lot about the kind of woman you are Vic. Sometimes things get lost in translation but I know you are a kind, compassionate woman and sadly some guys will abuse this. The fact that you are even entertaining the idea that you may have the 'wrong impression' of these individuals makes me want to give you a hug. I would imagine most people would not even give these individuals a second thought and have them blacklisted/dealt with appropriately. It looks like you already know what the outcome will be even if you gave these guys a chance. So the real question is, why even think about saying yes to these people and put yourself through that? During our time together I told you that I think respect is the most important thing to any relationship whether it is on family/friendship/intimate level. Without it you can't build anything else like trust or comfort. It appears to me that these guys don't respect you at all and hence all the silly games and hoops that they make you jump through. I would say that they can't take a 'no' and should be even more reason for you to stand firm on your principles...it has guided you safely thus far...non? The good guys will respect whatever you decide to do and will make the effort to see you nonetheless.