Tulsa

Hello Gentlemen: I was gone for some time, but I am back now! For those of you who said wonderful things about me thank you so much. I guess my mouth and thoughts get the better of me sometimes. If you want to chat with me just send me email or private messages and I will be happy to reply to them! By the way some of my contact info has changed since I was last on here, if you require it please pm me.

In reply to PK saying I hijacked this thread: The rules is this: Please DO NOT hijack threads! Hijack threads means you post a completely OFF TOPIC post and take control of the conversation that someone else started. Instead open a NEW thread and NEW TOPIC yourself. This includes posting on someone's ADVERTISING thread. If you are a competitor and you place a comment on someone's advertising thread that would be considered HIJACKING a thread.... and if you advertised yourself on someone else's advertising thread I am sure you will not make any friends. Q: I've commented on occasion on creative ads. I've never seen this as hijacking or bumping is it? A: It's more BUMPING then a Hijacking unless you are including an ADVERTISEMENT of your own (This includes your Signature). ** At this time that has not been a problem. Unless I get valid complaints about such things I will continue to allow that. If you were doing this to "Help" your friend out by bumping her ad to the top others will complain. If you read the rule properly, it states you are in violation if you put the subject OFF TOPIC. The topic states agencies, his original post asked a question, "What other agencies in Ottawa do ins that are reliable?" My answer, though not word for word was this: I don't know any other agency BUT I know several indies, including myself, that would provide that service to you. If I read the hijacking rule correctly I didn't change the topic, simply answered his question. Just wanted to publicly represent my understanding of the rule, and yes I have read it. As I said if I misread the rule then I will take my punishment.

Hi PK, If you read closely I am not advertising my services, I am simply saying that we, indies, are available short notice as well and there are alternatives. If you believe I am hijacking a thread then I am sorry that you feel this way. I believe this is an open forum and that everyone is entitled to make a opinion. The guy asked for agencies, if he only wants agencies, great that's fine. Maybe he's had bad experiences with indies and that's why he's sticking with agencies. As for hijacking a thread if the thread was started by agencies I would have stayed my nose out of it. I was started by a hobbyist stating that he wanted to know if there were other agencies that offered ins that were reliable. I simply asked him a question, gave him some facts and didn't limit myself to myself but to us indies in general. If you feel offended by my remarks I will take my punches and take my suspension. In return if I did manage to inform the hobbyist to other venues for him to have someone cater to him by simply stating facts, not advertising, since it clearly states a general fact about an alternative to agencies, which do have their place then so be it. I appreciate your comment as well but will not limit myself to replying in general to requests for information. Best Regards,

Hi everyone! I'm curious about 1 thing. Is there a reason why you would only limit yourself to agencies. There are many SPs out there, myself included that offer quality service, at reasonable rates. Independents actually on some occasions offer the same services, on short notice for equal or lesser cost than an agency since they don't have overhead. If you're looking for short notice bookings I'm sure many of us independents, including myself, would gladly oblige. Just my thoughts. Agencies have their place but we independents do too.

Hi mightymouse, I accept early morning appointments, Incalls only however. If you want to know more details, you will have to contact me in PM.

To old dog: l have to say I found your comment quite funny. In reply I would be inclined to give you a seniors discount, just like OC Transpo. The reason, even though I don't know you, I'm sure you would be great company and would know how to treat me like a woman. Most of these young guys are "rough around the edges" and think we are "barbie dolls" that can bend in anyway possible. They also think they can call us every name in the book and degrade us, while getting a discount. So yes Seniors Discounts are IN, Student passes are OUT

Hi sweetie, I am taking last minute appointments tonight. Let me know what time you had in mind in a PM and we'll go from there

Hi everyone: The more I'm reading this thread the more I see, at the very top of my window the title for this site "Canadian Escort Recommendation Board". Unless what I learned in school is not worth the paper I wrote my notes on "A recommendation is: Someone telling someone else that a product or service is worth while". We have been debating for days now, myself included, the pros and cons of advertising on CL versus here or EC. Also how the industry is going backwards or that free ads are "ruining" our business. Then it occurred to me! This is a recommendation board, not an ad board therefore if we follow the true meaning of the title this is where, just like in the arts and entertainment pages of a newspaper, people review SPs. If we follow this logic further, this is where people come to get others opinion on the various SPs advertised on any ad page. I see this board as the "Roper and Ebert" of the Escort world. The fact that there are forums an ad section and other unrelated subjects on here are just bonuses if we follow the title of this page. The main appeal of this board is that it is moderated. Which eliminates a lot if not all of the spammers, scammers, rift-raft that would be found elsewhere. Try as they may they seem to not last long on this site. But I think in the end, in my humble opinion, we are starting to miss the true essence of this page, if we follow the title. This is where people should come to get feedback on the various SPs that are advertising on the NET or in news print and should not be affiliated or biased for or against any of the advertising mediums used, but used strictly as a tool for reference on the SP they chose. I have however a better understanding that this is a "sister" site from EC and therefore biased towards that particular ad site. The discussion board is a great tool that ads to this recommendation aspect as we can debate our views on certain SPs or relate information and discuss it. I enjoy coming on here and reading others comments and seeing that we can differ and still come to an understanding on various subject. In closing, I hope this site remains open so that hobbyist and SPs alike have a venue to use to help each other make wise or wiser decisions when choosing one another. Have a good night everyone!

In response to the MOD: Just to clarify I am not, and it was not my intention, promoting CL or any other forum for that matter. Everyone is their own person and can choose which medium they use I was simply stating that not all are bad apples, and in a sense I was promoting verifying credentials before you make a decisions. Which means if you see someone you like on CL, cross reference with here, EC or any other medium at your disposal. One of our member here dedicates a lot of time and effort fishing out the scammers bait/switch, etc on his site. He does it for free (and you have the option of paying him "beers"). Yet another tool to see the scammers and avoid them. This said, no i did not purchase a banner from CERB, nor do I have an ad on EC, I was not told this was a requirement and yes I am prevailing myself of the FREE services that are offered. I do appreciate the fact that this forum is MODERATED, and i'm sorry that I didn't think of buying a banner to support this site. I will make a point of doing this as soon as possible. In closing, I tend to disagree with the MOD with respect to his comment regarding FREE ad sites. I believe everything in every day purchases from purchasing from your big box store to online purchases is a BUYER BEWARE market. This said, any good salesman can sell you a "lemon" if you don't do your homework and decide to buy on his/her word, you'll buy the "lemon", it will break down, rip you off, etc... however is it the salesperson's fault? Yes and No -- YES he could have told you the CONS regarding this particular product, but would have lost income, NO because it's really his job to SELL the product, no turn you away from it. As a consumer, it's your JOB to do research, and be aware of what you're buying. This particular individual, and the reason for this post, saw a product (the escort ad), got sold on it and bought a "lemon". He learned from his mistake I'm sure, may never shop again at the big box online discount store that is CL, but in the end if he would have done his homework, fished out the scam using CERB, EC or any other medium free or not, he would have seen the "lemon" said no thanks and moved on. Are we going backwards or ruining our industry by using these mediums? I don't agree. Are we opening the door to scammers, etc, my answer is that no matter what we do, there are people out there just waiting to scam you, if not on CL than they will use other ways. CL actually allows sites like CERB to flourish since it is just like a big box store and offers almost all you need in one location. How many of us walk in to a big box store for 1 item and walk out with another and spend twice as much as originally budgetted? I would think most of us. The same is true for CL, I'm sure a portion of the audience go on there looking for something and end up just browsing our section, and if the timing is right, the ad attractive enough, well you get yourself a client. CERB on the other hand is like your lingerie store at your local mall. Unless your specifically looking for lingerie, you won't go in there. Therefore both are needed to grab as much of a clientele and maximize your marketing. When I post somewhere, one of my first thought and what I like to find out is a) are there people that visit on here, if so how many? b) is spending time updating, maintaining and monitoring this particular marketing tool going to bring back a good ROE. So far I have found that CERB is a very good ROE, thank you MOD for you fantastic work in making it all possible! CL is the other medium that gives me a good ROE. I am advertised on other sites which don't give me such good ROE, therefore I just monitor them very, very infrequently. As for EC, I'm not a fan of the layout and I do know some SPs that advertise there and they say it doesn't bring them much in way of business hense the reason I am not advertised on there. Now that I am done ranting and raving, expect to see a CERB banner on my site in the very near future! :)...

Hello Everyone, I would have to say that I'm sorry you had a bad experience with an SP from CL. But being an advertiser (everyday) on CL and also a member of CERB, not all adverstisers on CL are of ill repute or offer a not so good service. My advice to you is to look at all the resources available before making your choice, but not put all the CL advertisers in the same boat (which I'm sure you weren't) I wish you luck in your next venture and hope you will have a much better experience next time sweetie.

Hi everyone, I just want to mention that Angela of Ottawa is absolutely right, I am not saying all of them are bad or want to think they can get freebies/discounts/my heart because they are 21 and fit/good looking/better than the old guys I'm used to seeing all day/etc... I was simply saying at that time that it seemed most of them were trying this. I enjoy reading all the post on here, and all comments are welcomed, I haven't seen "tween" bashing in any form. However, it seems some of you are taking it personal. Moto about taking it personal: The only thing that can be personal is something that affects you because you are doing it, have done it, or plan on doing it! If you're are not doing any of those things than it's just a comment and it's nothing personal. Therefore don't take it that way!

Lol... funny you should say that, one guy actually said I would love it so much I would be paying him for the time... Boy was he wrong...

I would like to thank you all for the very nice comments and reviews about me. It makes me feel great and it is rewarding to see how much all of you appreciate my service. From time to time I have people that like to say my service wasn't up to their standards, which I can understand that I cannot please everyone. Coming to this page, when I get frustrated by those negative reviews, cheers me up thanks guys, you are all awesome!

Hi speedstick, I couldn't agree more with you on your post. And FYI I wouldn't think you were thread jacking... this is an open forum and therefore all thoughts and what comes of them are welcomed on any thread I post... if most answer to you then great! Anyhow, I wouldn't go as far as to say that they are dumb, just should maybe not think of themselves as a saviour, better than the old farts you see all day, etc... I met my love while being a stripper in a strip joint. He was the DJ, so therefore he knew what kind of life being in the adult entertainment is. (he's been in the business well over 10 years). Most of these young guys and most guys for that matter that go into a strip joint or take advantage of services offered by SPs just don't know the "behind the scenes" life involved with this world. Alot of the clients I have dealt with in both my stripper life and this SP life, when they became regulars, offered to give me a better life, clothes, cars, houses, etc. Even though I appreciate all the gestures, they are just not aware that I do this because I enjoy doing this. No one forces me to do it, no one is pimping me, I do it almost for fun. Which for you clients is a bonus since I truly enjoy doing what I do. So as speedstick I just said a bunch of things that don't matter so I'm going to say I hope this was entertaining and speedstick no worries I enjoyed reading your thread.

Hi sweetie, I travel up to that area, if you are interested

Funny you should mention the backyard thing... I had an 18 year old wanting me to do it in the bush down the street from his house... I finally showed up and he was hiding in the bush... poor kid was so nervous that I had a driver that he ran like a rabbit. You are right they are just that kids, but some of the incidents are funny none the less.

lol... thank you for clearing that up suzirider. It was the exact same thing I was thinking when I had that conversation with him! I would also like to take the time to thank everyone who replied to this thread and to fortunateone and ggstyle for nominating my post. I have had a great time reading all your post and some gave me insight on how to deal with those people, some made me laugh and others made me appreciate just how friendly this board really is. I hope that you all enjoyed this thread as much as I did. Please don't take this as I am done with this thread, I would like to see as many responses as possible. Again thank you and enjoy!

Suzirider, I'm not sure where you're going with this... but I was simply saying what kind of interaction I was having with this client.

Hi everyone, First thank you for reading my thread! It's long and more of a rant, but I just wanted to share and see what kind of response I got I'm just wondering, and would like feedback on this topic. It's a situation I've been having lately, specially with 21 years old. Not that they are the only ones but they seem to be the most common. They start their conversations with: "Hi I'm 21 years old, good looking, how about you cut me a deal and I treat you like a lady, you might like it!" When you give them your rate, they keep taking your time asking personal questions, then they say they don't want to book they want to be friends, get to know you and see where it goes from there. When you explain to them that you post because you want to make money, and this is your work. You are not friends, but clients, either don't believe you or ignore it and they keep persisting. I'm just curious if, and I'm sure the answer will be yes, other SPs get this type of client and if they do, what do they say to get them to either book or rid of them? I've used a lot of different techniques and none seem to work. I've even told 1 guy who said:(note: this conversation happened after he told me he was shy and needed to talk to SPs 1st before booking) "I would like to get to be your friend, go out for drinks nothing sexual, just friends and see if we click" I replied: "Great you want to be my friend, then I will meet you for drink but, I will be accompanied by my fiancee is that OK?" (I figured that would get him to give up) He replies: "why would he come?" ME: "Well see, we have an agreement, when we go out with friends we always go out together. Most times that is the only time we spend together, therefore if you want to be my friend then I guess you have to live with him being around!" I then get the obvious response: "Well I was hoping to be friends and see where it goes from there!" Note for all you hobbyist reading this: (And I'm sure most of you probably know this, so please do not think that I am being condescending to you. I'm just ranting and hoping that this will help people who don't look at life this way, to have at least a different perspective) In my humble opinion, if you see someone posting on any erotic board or boards dedicated to SPs odds are we are not looking for dates. Most of us already have relationships outside of our work. Please do not waste our time by trying to entertain a relationship right from the start. (If you are looking for a relationship, there are tons of dating sites full of women waiting to chat and do the dating thing!) Book our time, spend some time with us (for a fee), then you never know we may just like you and want a relationship! :razz: And for those of you who have this theory "I would never pay for sex!" Ask yourself this: Have you ever picked up a girl at a bar and bought her drinks, supper, movie, clothes, jewelry, etc... slept with her but didn't have a relationship her? If your answer is YES then you've paid for sex.It's not because she was in a bar that you didn't exchange something for the sex you got. This said, the only difference between that girl in the bar and an SP is; you don't have to spend 4 hours trying to pick us up by making an impression all you need to do is call and show up. With her you're not even guaranteed to get any action, no matter the amount of drinks you buy her. With us you are, if you pay of course. So if you want a relationship, pay our time instead of drinks, use the time to flirt and try and gain our attention you never know it just might work! See . Different setting.same result!

Hi, I think the way it was done was rude yes. But, if you expect to have a drawn out conversation with an SP because you are shy, as it has happened to me many times, it takes away from us dealing with clients that actually want a booking. I personally will try in every way to make you feel comfortable before meeting you because I can understand what it is to be shy but it has to end. I guess what I'm saying is the way she said it was wrong but the reasoning behind it was right.

I have seen some CERB members and have yet to get a reco. If I do have 1 I have yet to see it. I think many members may feel uncomfortable writting them. It is obvious that other members have seen this SP, so I think that this post could "scare" away some clients from us SPs. If you've never seen this particular SP, just don't reply, and if none have seen her then none will reply. I've made a mistake on here and for that I am sorry but just it doesn't mean that people from CERB haven't seen me, or her for that matter.

Hi sweetie, I am located 5 minutes south of the airport. If you are interested just PM me and I will discuss this further!

Hi Pan, I am a member of CERB, I was suspended for letting a customer write a posting about me on my computer, which I am now aware is against the rules. If you want to know more you can email me here. Some of the members on here know me and would probably give you a better testimonial as to my services.

Hi Sexy BBW vero, The client in question is in his late 30s early 40s, approx. 5'10", 190lbs, he is well toned, caucassian, short brown hair, brown eyes, clean shaven. At the time of the visit he was wearing a plain white t-shirt and kaki shorts. He wore sandals. Other than this there is no other visible particular traits. (No tattoos, piercings, scars, etc.). His demeanor is very self-assured and his language is rude and demanding. He will be sure to let you know that he doesn't wear condoms. That was his first line when he walked in. I will not, due to the Canadian Privacy Act, reveal his # or license plate number on here. If you would like that information please send me a PM. I will say however that he was driving a late model (2008-2010) 4 door, Ford Escape, blue/gray in color. Additional Comments: I have contacted the MOD and I am told I have to have someone who has met me personally vouch for me before I can have access to the SP only area. Since so far, the only person I know for sure is on CERB that has met me is DJ Frost32 I don't have anyone else on here I know personally and he joined because of me so I know he won't have the privileges to recommend as of yet I'm sure. So until I can have access to the SP only area, I hope we can work as a team on here, and if some of you see the need to post in there as well, please feel free to do it to help protect other providers. If anyone knows of an other way for me to get access let me know. Thank you so much for all your replies. Tulsa xox

Hello everyone, Some of you members of CERB saw an ad warning about a dangerous encounter I had today on CL and asked if I would post it here. Here is my post on CL regarding a nightmare client I had at noon hour. Ladies BE AWARE - w4m (OTTAWA) Date: 2010-06-20, 1:05PM EDT Reply To This Post Hello ladies, I'm Tulsa, a provider in Ottawa and I just had a horrible experience and need to share this nightmare client experience. This client, first off complained I was too far out of town. He then asked for 15 minute service. I gave him my price and we agreed. He said he would be at my place in 10 minutes. When he showed up is when the nightmare started: I ask for payment upfront, he refused at first wanting the service first. . I finally convinced him to give me the payment. He attempted to walk around my place like he own the place and when I tried to restrict him to 1 area he kept pushing me around When I attempted to put a condom on, he refused, when forced he tried to take it off just before entering me When his time was up, he refused to leave and threatened me, saying he would ruin my name. I finally got him to leave, called my fiancee which got his license plate number and make of vehicle. If you are interested in that information and are a service provider, please reply to this post Tulsa Location: OTTAWA it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests PostingID: 1801580810 ________________________________________________________________ A few of the members on CERB asked me to put this ad on the OTTAWA WARNINGS page for all of you to see. If you would like more information on this particular individual please feel free to contact me. I surely hope that we can avoid this kind of nightmare. The worst part of this ordeal and maybe something those of you who have someone around as security should maybe implement is this: A 9-1-1 word or distress code. My fiancee called, at the 15 minute mark, to make sure I was ok and to tell me that the 15 minutes was up. This is a system we have so that he knows I am safe. We thought it worked very well until the first bad situation arose. When I picked up the phone, i didn't want to tip off the client that I had someone near by, just in case that would make him turn more violent so I just said thanks for telling the time's up, i'll see you soon. He thought, since this is my somewhat usual response that everything was ok even though my voice seem strained and nervous. I am often like that when, like today, I am very tired. So he hung up and waited till I called him with the "all clear" signal. When I called him back, I gave him all but the all clear signal. I told him briefly what this guy did. Being the quick thinker that he is, he went after the vehicle in question and got the license plate number, make, model and color of the vehicle. I can give this information to you, service providers, if you would like. Just simply PM me or send email I will be more than happy to give you the info. Thank you for publishing me, and to all of you thank you for reading me. P.S. If someone feels the need to post this message in the SP ONLY area. Please send me a message saying you would like to do so and I will gladly authorize or send you a more copy/paste friendly version, if needed. I do not have the privilege required to access the SP only area as I haven't had anyone recommend me yet or have not reached the minimum requirements for the other two entry requirements. Therefore, if this is permitted on CERB, I will allow someone to copy and paste, as long as they quote that it is me who originally posted this. Then the SP wanting more info can PM me like everyone else I guess. Thank you again for posting/reading my thread