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The response to this thread has been most interesting. It has threatened to go off the rails a time or two but sudden fits of civility have pretty much kept it on track. I think everyone automatically filled in the brief phrase that was missing from the OP. "... is ethically wrong for you, ..." "Ethics" as a whole is an attempt to resolve questions of human morality - good vs evil, right and wrong, crime and justice. Group ethics can be standardized. Lawyers, engineers, and doctors maintain codes of ethics. And then there are your own ethics. Is it wrong, according to your personal ethics, to keep that fiver the person ahead of you in line just dropped? Some of the respondents have said they have some pretty clear lines and have gone on to explain why those lines are there for them. I get that. Or at least most of them. I'm still trying to work out someone who will see an early-20s SP if she's had a few years experience. As I understand the word "few", that would mean she started under-age but maybe that's just my head playing with words. It does that sometimes. As to responses that indicated concern that the SP doesn't really know what she is in for in terms of this being a career choice, my understanding of the nature of the SP/Client relationship does not involve the client evaluating the life choices of the provider. Maybe she doesn't fully comprehend the whole thing. Maybe she is doing it for not the best of all reasons i.e. needs major money now and Tim Horton's doesn't pay that well. As a client, while I care about her well-being as one person to another, unless she whispers in my ear "Help me! I'm being forced into this.", I'm not sure that in the course of an hour I would be able to divine enough information about her life to get into all that. I vaguely remember reading a thread on What Not To Ask Your SP that covered some of this. Having said all that, where do my ethics lead me in the context of this discussion? I evaluate each person on her merits as I perceive them based on the information gleaned from her ads, her posts, her PMs and so on. If, based on this information, there is an interest, I will pursue it. I have had some holy-sweet-jaysus experiences with 18 and 19 year olds. I've had some truly devastatingly bad experiences with 30s and 40s women. And I have experienced the reverse. Age is one of the things I consider. If she is quite young in the industry, I look for other qualifying factors. If she is at the other end of the age spectrum, there is a different set of factors. So, as an absolute answer to the original question, my ethics do allow for 18 and 19 year old SPs. And here is where I add all the IMHO, YMMV, and so on. I speak only for myself and my life and, just to keep it really interesting, I sometimes do a lousy job of speaking for myself.

Very well spoken and well reasoned. Of course, I may be biased, Mightypen, in as much as I completely agree with you.

Carrigan Desjardins also resigned from the position of vice-president for student life at the student association. She was responsible for the frosh week program.

I suspect the focus is on SMU because they are the first school to be featured in an Instagram video doing this. Having listened to the student body president and SMU president, my feeling is that unless they were in a coma during frosh week and just now woke up and are disturbed by what they did while in said coma, what they are really upset about is getting "caught". Had there been no social media video banging across the countryside, life would have gone on and the cycle repeated next year.

Okay, so you've got your Liquid Lapdance (see other thread). There has to be something else you can do to up your game even more. Well, search no further! Here it is! Man Invents Musical Condoms A little music in the workplace for SPs? Oh, wait. There's more. Musical Condom Update Oh well.. Never mind.

The Ocean at the End of the Lane by Neil Gaiman. From a review of the book: "A groundbreaking work from a master, The Ocean at the End of the Lane is told with a rare understanding of all that makes us human, and shows the power of stories to reveal and shelter us from the darkness inside and out. It is a stirring, terrifying, and elegiac fable as delicate as a butterfly's wing and as menacing as a knife in the dark." http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/15783514-the-ocean-at-the-end-of-the-lane Additional Comments: The Ocean at the End of the Lane by Neil Gaiman. From a review of the book: "A groundbreaking work from a master, The Ocean at the End of the Lane is told with a rare understanding of all that makes us human, and shows the power of stories to reveal and shelter us from the darkness inside and out. It is a stirring, terrifying, and elegiac fable as delicate as a butterfly's wing and as menacing as a knife in the dark." http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/15783514-the-ocean-at-the-end-of-the-lane

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and guess the girl is not included with the product. Damn!

The answer to that question is very specific to you. If your worldview holds that having sex for money with strangers is a bad thing and you enter into a contact with an escort with no intention of changing that worldview, yes, you should feel ashamed. If that is not your worldview or if it is and you are looking to change it, no, you should not feel ashamed. You've come to the right place with the right people. Hop in, roll around, revel in the joy of being here. Take my word for it. The second option feels better than the first.

I've run into piercing in all the usual suspect places and a couple of others. In terms of whether this interferes with the mechanics of the session, from the client's perspective, no, not at all. Unless, of course, you've never seen them before and weren't expecting them. You might miss a beat in that case. As noted and I agree, the person with the piercings seem to be a bit more sensitive to erotic touching in that location. If the woman had sensitive nipples to begin with, the proper activity after piercing can send her eyes rolling right on back. My advice would be if you've not spent time with piercings, give it a go!

Yes to occasionally watching porn to a prelude to getting laid. And yes, sometimes it makes a great sound track. As others have noted, having others present and engaged in their own games is a huge turn on, too. I had a mistress years back who would make a point of setting up one or both of those scenarios for us because she loved it so much. And of course, sometimes the couple became small groups but I digress... And yes to mirrors, too. See... I'm easy to please.

Going to the OP's actual question, what would I do for a last hurrah if I knew, for whatever reason, I was leaving the game? I would figure out how to explain being gone for 24 hours. I would arrange to spend those 24 hours with a specific terribly wonderful lady. We would spend 22 of those hours just being... chatting, walking, drinking wine, holding each other in bed. Interspersed in there we would spend one hour on a duo with her and another specific lady. We would spend another hour just the two of us being as intensely sexual as possible. And if everything went according to plan, at the end of the 24 hours, the EMTs would show up to take me to recovery.

Yup... tears over here too at this expression of love and caring. But it's ok.. I have my own chocolates. btw... any time you can make your dad cry (for good reasons!) ... there is no feeling quite like it. I got my dad some 25 years ago and still grin like a kid about it. Ask me sometime and I'll tell you about it.

One good thing (among others) is that when you masturbate, at least you're with someone you love.

And now for something completely different: I found this article to be fascinating... Watching Like a Girl I would be interested to hear what others have to say.

Regarding the "need to put this out there" thing, I'll give the benefit of the doubt to a long time member and take is as the "need" to bring up something he sees and thinks is of dubious value and it bugs him and he wants to know why it is still used. Regarding blocked numbers, allow me to digress for a bit - to smoked plastic license plate covers. IMHO people do not buy those to protect their plates. People buy them to obfuscate their registration numbers when they go through red-light and speed cameras. Whenever I see them, my first thought is "what other laws are you willing to break?" Back to blocked numbers. There are innocent reasons why someone might call from a blocked number. There are as whole host of nefarious reasons someone else would use one. Notwithstanding all the ways of spoofing and circumventing the blocked number thing, I side with the decision to err on the side of caution and refuse to answer such calls. No, it's not a foolproof was of avoiding asshats, but nothing is 100%. A final thought. If a guy is calling on a blocked number when, as noted, it is almost universally noted in SP advertising that no blocked numbers will be accepted, this guy is either seriously procedurally challenged (read: doesn't understand the rules) or disrespectful (read: doesn't care what the rules are). In either event, the SP who passes on the call is not losing a good client. Just my two bits...

It is at times like this, cristycurves, that I wish one or the other of us were in the other province. (did that make sense?) Anyway, yes, I've done it and will be happy to do it again, especially if the lady mentions it.

Going above and beyond to make a newlywed couple very happy... Did the whole wedding thing with them complete with pictures at the ornamental gardens and such. Dropped them off for the reception. Late night pickup at 2:30 am. Retrieved the couple and took them to their hotel. Just getting ready to leave when the bride runs over and taps on the car window. Is the groom's ring in the back seat area? We look high and low. No ring. So sad. Too bad. She leaves. I'm sitting there thinking what else have I got to do at 3 am? So I go back to the reception venue and start checking the walkway from where they got in the car back to the venue entrance. Right then, a guy comes out of the venue, bends over and picks something up and asks me "You looking for this?" The ring, of course! Called the bride and asked her to meet me in the lobby in seven minutes. She was over the moon! Yup. We are a full service company! :)

Because it's in Ottawa - the city that installs traffic calming humps at 4-way stops.

Maotouing, my heart goes out to you. I actually winced for you as I read your tale. It sounds like your entry into all this came in at the wrong end of the Bell curve. You know the curve that says a few experiences will be earth shattering, most will be normal as in pretty damn good, and a few will be disastrous. Your instincts are right. You did all the right things. You're inclination to give it another go is best. Read the ads for your area. Find a person or two who catchs your interest. Then go read her recommendations. You will find someone who's reco' s consistently sound like what you're looking for. Take your heart in your hands and contact her. Since I am a strong believer in the balance of the universe I think your next session will rock your world.

And I hear there are scams in Ottawa. .. and Kingston. .. and Nigeria. Sorry for the hijack. Couldn't understand the need to reference Hull. There are also lots of fine people there, too.

What? I thought cuddles, kissing and hugs were what I was paying for and all the rest was just add-ons! (Tongue firmly in cheek)

On Self-Image issues: when I approach her door I wish I were 40 lbs lighter. I wish my man boobs were smaller. I wish my hair was a bit less grey. I wish there wasn't that white patch in my moustache. I wish I was 2" longer. I wish Ed was just my cousin's name. Then the door opens and my mind only knows her eyes, her smile, her kiss, and all I want is to be there forever for the next hour.

To the OP I would say yes, YMMV is all of those things and I agree the concept applies in most areas of life. Take Mike the Hot Dog guy at the beach I just visited. Known him for years. His dogs are $2 each. I'm getting 11. He charges me $20 and throws in a bag of chips. And refuses a tip. Are you getting that deal? Nope. YMMV. The moral of the story? Be nice and maybe in ten years you, too, can get a free hot dog.

Maybe it's because of the particular women I have seen but I don't see "open minded" with the same cynicism some others do. I mentally translate it to "let's talk". If I'm in the mood for something she hasn't mentioned or specifically ruled out this is an encouragement to a discussion where she may agree or demure without judging me for asking.