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The first time I met Jennifer Jade, she gave me a kiss that made my knees buckle. Fortunately, her warm and comfortable embrace kept me from crumbling down.

Sorry, I had posted something that was not very flattering, therefore out of this site's guidelines, and I just didn't find the way to completely delete the post.

Oh, Boy! You're really treading on slippery grounds! (No pun intended). To get some sort of credible response (For whatever it's worth), you maybe ought to be more precise in defining what you mean when you say 'sensual massage'. And if you want my two cents comment to this vague question, political boundaries don't make a difference. The ladies do. And wherever they may be working doesn't mean that they are from that place, they come from all over.

There is also a third variant, where the owner/manager of the spa is also the owner of a house or condo her girls live in. I happen to know an Asian lady in SW Florida who owns a spa. Besides her own home, where she keeps 2 or 3 girls, she also owns half of a duplex elsewhere in town where four other girls live. That sure gives her (the owner) a chance to tap into all those tips the girls earn. It's hard to tell what kind of a place we're in, mainly because usually those MA's have limited English. If we can be understood and get answers to questions like 'Do you own your own car?' or 'Do you have children?' and if yes, 'Do they live with you?', we can get clues on what's going on.

It's true that all tips go to the ladies... for a while. Some places charge the ladies so much per shift for things like oils, laundry, etc... I was told it happened in some places, but I don't know if it's a norm across the industry. I know for a fact that in certain Asian places, where the girls live at the owner/manager's place and are clueless about anything else around the city, they are charged room, board and transportation by their bosses. In other words, the boss puts his hands in her 'tip cookie jar'...

I guess you dealt with the guy at the reception who probably said it in his own diplomatic tone... (I thought pitbulls were illegal in Ontario!!)

I guess it depends which island in the Caribbean. You might have a chance in Dominican Republic or Cuba, but I don't think you got much of a chance in the islands that are under American, British or Dutch influence. I got lucky in the DR. And the resort type also comes into play. Don't expect anything at a Sandals or Club Med. Those places tend to keep staff apart and let the clients make arrangements among themselves. Cruise ships have a wide range (of very pricey) massage offers, but don't even think about going into extra extra territory. Girls are threatened to be dropped off at the next port and to make their own arrangements to get home if they get caught. And they let rumors circulate that it's happened in the past.

That makes sense and it would be a clever way to keep relatives away. But I've seen many ads with that request. I'd be surprised if so many SP's MA's and body rub advertisers all used the same strategy. BTW, the ratio on non-whites in the Fort Myers area is something like 20%, according to the (somewhat confusing) US census data.

I don't want to make the mods irritated because I am mentioning another site, but it's for the sake of the discussion. If you look for Island Sunshine in the Ft. Myers, FL BckPg on Jan 6 ads, you will find an an AfroAmerican lady who specifies 'No Blacks'... And it's not the first time I see an AA SP or MA that doesn't want black clients around here. Go Figure...

Yup, Yup, Yup... I hear ya!

When you ask for a particular review of a MP, they offwr 'Go Premium' and that's where the CC questions eventually show up. OK. Try This: In the list of states, select Florida, City: Bonita Springs. The first MP showing up is Ocean Spa, click on that and look at the first review about a MP called Sandy. You ought to get a blurred image of the fact sheet with a clear offer to go premium.

The lady I mentioned in this post has since retired.

Simple. They're out fishing for credit card numbers. So-called intel in the area of massage parlors is a good bait.

Funny, I feel as if I'm going back in time! I knew about Rubmaps maybe 2-3 years ago, way back when the site was free. I sent a couple of (nothing negative) reviews of nearby MPs, none were ever published. In another issue, a MP I knew and had been to was listed in the wrong city in Florida. I sent a couple of messages to have them clarify that, but I never got a response neither did they ever correct it. I once read a review on a MA who allegedly offered FS. I've known that MA for years and I know for a fact that she does not do that. I wrote up a comment on that post expressing my doubts, my post got zapped. Not long after that, they started to charge for site access. With the experience I had with them, they lost me! Have not been there since. Another odd thing: way back then, when I tried to access the rubmaps site while I was in Canada, for some reason, I was rerouted to some other site. To get to the Rubmaps site, I had to use a program called 'Hide My IP' that made their server 'think' I was somewhere in the US. I guess that restriction has been lifted.

Heck, you can't go wrong with either one of them! I've seen both of them more than once (not as a duo) and they're both amazing in their own way. Besides being hot, they'e both classy ladies who know how to size up (no pun intended) their client and act accordingly. If I had to choose between the two, I really don't know. Whoever I choose, I know it's going to be great. And like I found out, there's always a next time for the other one... By the way, a session with Tya is also quite a pleasant experience. Can't say too much about the other two ladies, I've just spoken to them at the reception but they seem to be interesting.

My friend went there a few times under the old ownership, it was called YES massage or something like that. He liked the place because of it was very clean and well maintained. The possibility of taking a free steam bath after the session was also a plus. He returned a couple of times after, and he agrees, the guy running the place just doesn't have it when it comes to dealing with the public. He seems to be there to dispatch the girls and stare at the clock. The new girls were not as open when it was time to deal with details of the massage session. No more BS, the best my friend could get was a HJ with limited ROC. He gave up on the place, he did not return in the last 15 months.

That was quite an experience, I guess this guy was some sort of a prankster. What I was referring to was a boyfriend or pimp with the intention of stealing your money. I'm pretty sure the BF/Pimp thing at an indy place happens more often than the prankster thing at a spa. I spend my winters in Florida and some hobbyists post closet stories like that now and then on the local boards. (But you got to admit, the guy that pulled that off at the spa must have laughed it off for a while, even if he gave the poor guy on the table ED for a while!)

Now, angels, you know who was the guy sitting in the car with only one hand in sight! LOL!!

Mods here don't really like it when we talk about numbers in this section, but prices are listed in Vibe's daily ad in the schedules and announcements section.

Summer Love at Angels/Paradise. I always liked her massage style. Additional Comments: I got to agree with you for what you say about Gina!

Recommendation on his first post about a new spa... Full of compliments. Where is this spa? Has anyone heard of this spa yet? From the names, I get some Asian vibrations... But this smells a bit funny. . . Maybe someone ought to become a paid advertiser and put messages like this in the other section. BTW, I don't have a clue about what 'gental' is. Should we go by sound and assume he meant 'gentle' or was this a typo where he missed typing an 'i' somewhere in the middle of the word?

You won't be sorry!!!

You won't have any guy pop out of a closet when you're at a spa, that's for sure!

I've been there a few times. I'd put the place pretty much in the same quality bracket as Angel's or Paradise (Minus the hot tub). As far as appearance goes, it's evident that a professional decorator or at least someone with a lot of taste was involved when they set up the place this spring. It's definitely in a convenient location for us 'East-Enders', because it's less than 15 minutes from almost anywhere in Orleans. It was about time we had a spa in our area. And the ladies... What can I say? Any one of them is better and friendlier than the other! For the moment, the only improvement I can suggest is that the online schedule on their site be available soon!

Plenty of those in South Florida. Some include it in the door fee, some charge somewhere around a Jackson. One thing's for sure: THe MA knows that whatever she handles is clean, cause she did the scrubbin'!