Phaedrus

Postponed :)

Ya, I was talking about Federal Law, not the Ottawa or Ontario regulations. I know that some places are officially sanctioned by the City and others have worked around that. The fact that the two are wildly inconsistent simply reflects how screwed up the whole sorry mess has become. The problem here is that we live in the world we're in, and we have to deal with human nature as it is. There are plenty of decent people out there, but there are enough assholes to be a problem, and that won't change. That issue is by no means unique to this industry. We have to collectively figure out what to do about it. To go off on a slight tangent for a moment... from my perspective, one of the most striking things about all we've heard since Weinstein is that general and non-specific descriptions of abuse have been replaced by specific ones. The power of that transition is not to be underestimated: a specific accusation by one person against another, even if it isn't then followed by many others backing it up to demonstrate a pattern of behaviour, is far more persuasive than generic statements that really bad stuff happens. That transition can't happen here as the board rules prevent it, but... I get the impression that the latter part of your paragraph above alludes to the possibility of providers pursuing prosecutions against clients for sexual assault, or worse. Is that right? If so - and being fully aware of that old saw about being careful what you wish for - would it be a very bad thing if that shoe dropped? It would *really* send the message that no, you can't do this, and there will be consequences if you try it, and the days when you could get away with it are over. I'm sure that would change the calculus for those who may feel inclined to try. And it would replace the general descriptions of abuse with specific ones. Of course, that's not something to be done lightly, and the law of unintended consequences undoubtedly applies, but I can see how it could be to the industry's long-term benefit. Additional Comments: Bearing that in mind... Perhaps we also need to try and get away from terms like "full service". Clearly defining boundaries is great... but it relies on everyone understanding the same thing by the words used, and if that isn't happening then there will be problems even if everyone's trying to do the right thing. Please, nobody try and hijack this thread with a debate about what GFE means.

Do you honestly believe Jeff Sessions will decline to use this enormously powerful tool to persecute people he doesn't like? He will. Any US-based site where sex work is advertised or discussed will be gone in a heartbeat. So will a lot of other things he doesn't like, as the mere accusation will result in very expensive lawsuits against the might of the US government. Between this and net neutrality, I'm wondering how long the Internet as we know it can continue to exist in the US.

Also https://twitter.com/karmin_delgado

To be honest, I think Mike Pence's personal rule comes from his religious beliefs... and let's face it, a lot of religions - especially the more hardcore versions of them - have a rather dysfunctional relationship to sex in general. If you want another example, look at the issues Evangelical communities in the US (and Canada, for that matter) have with marrying young girls off to much older men. Most people are fine with one-on-one meetings with the opposite sex, or attending events where alcohol is served without spousal supervision, and so the Pence Rule isn't of much relevance to him.

I've hit this in the past. It's because consecutive posts in the same thread get auto-merged, but the post size count isn't done until after that. Mind you, you get 10k characters (I think) so it's not a common problem. There's two workarounds: 1) if someone else posts after your initial post, your second one won't get merged as they aren't consecutive. 2) Failing that, if the two posts are 24h apart (I think) they're also treated as separate, and don't get merged.

Last I heard, the profile Twitter widget just didn't work well. That was quite a long time ago, but I'm not sure it ever got fixed. I think the best you can do is putting a link to your Twitter account in your contact details on your profile, or in your post signature... but since you've already done that, I'm not sure what else you can do!

I was merely remarking on the irony of you claiming you didn't want to have the conversation you were simultaneously kicking off. It amused me, that's all. :)

Assuming I know who you're talking about (and I think I do): she's indy, and therefore entirely at liberty to provide whatever services she pleases. A MA working in a spa is probably subject to more in the way of rules about what she should and shouldn't do, although I'm sure it varies significantly. If you don't want to touch that one with a 50-foot pole, there was no need to bring it up in the first place. And yet you did...

Absolutely. Trump is just the pus in the wound, not the underlying infection. But honestly, I don't see how this gets fixed. Between the propaganda operation on one side, the apathy and "they're all just as bad" in the middle, and the huge bar to setting up a viable third party in the US system, the GOP isn't going to be pushed out to its natural habitat on the margins of society.

I'd heard good things about Alison and Kimora in the past, and thought... it was high time I got to meet them and find out for myself! They're both usually available during the day, but were very accommodating in setting up an early-evening meeting. Alas, there were several days to wait and let the anticipation build... but eventually I arrived at their incall. Easy to find, easy parking, no fuss... great! Soon afterwards I was showered and lying on their huge massage table. Alison started on my shoulders, Kimora started at my ankles, and they gave me a fantastic massage - I especially have to mention the job Alison did on my back to get the knots out. I'd have been happy to let them go on... but Kimora worked her way up my legs, and Alison worked her way down my back, and when they met in the middle and asked me if I'd like to turn over... well, at that point the back just has to wait, doesn't it? I'm not going to go into details of what happened after that (partly because I was blindfolded for some of it so I'd just be guessing anyway :) ) - suffice to say that things rapidly got seriously hot, and stayed that way for an extended period of time. Unfortunately all good things have to come to an end, and this was one of them. But I left with a smile on my face, and I'll have to go back sometime to renew it.

I'm getting a self-signed certificate problem now (it was expired earlier today). Given that things seem to be in flux, hopefully it'll be sorted out before too long. Additional Comments: Update: fixed. https://www.lyla.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=806643#post806643

The GOP used to be the Grand Old Party. Unfortunately, they'll soon just be the Government Of Pedophiles at this rate. i must admit, I keep an eye on US politics for the popcorn-worthy stuff (of which there is a great deal) but I've given up caring about it. There comes a point where stressing over other people's self-inflicted problems isn't worth it any more.

A trip to Brass Club, on a wet and windy evening. It was unpleasant outside, but on arrival I was plunged into mayhem at reception - scantily-clad ladies everywhere (it's like that, sometimes) And out of that sexy maelstrom emerged Scarlett, who I'd actually come to see. We took a few moments to chat and get to know each other a little, and if found that Scarlett's great to talk to. Of course it's not all conversation... clothing was gradually discarded, and initial exploration... escalated. In fact, it escalated very quickly! Isn't that supposed to happen after the massage? Never mind, it didn't this time... so we then moved on to the massage end of things. Scarlett gave me a very relaxing massage, and there was also time for me to get my hands on her for a little while before it was time to head to the shower and bring things to a close. But I'm already looking forward to seeing her again!

What they said. Gina's back, she's still as awesome as ever, and if you want to know more then read the rest of this thread :)

One other thing you could do - if you want to visit a spa, most of them advertise here so you could drop them a PM and ask for their recommendations. They'll know which of their MAs enjoy doing duos together.

I've had good experiences at Brass Club - if you keep an eye on their Twitter (and their MAs) you'll get a good idea of which people like doing duos together. Various MAs at CMJ and Paradise/Angels also advertise duos. I'm pretty sure I've heard good things about Alison and Kimora (indy) but I haven't met them myself. The real trick is finding a pair of ladies who enjoy each other's company, I think, so it's worth doing a bit of research.

Well, I think my feet are pretty damn horrible.

I'd read a few very positive things about Eliza here and elsewhere, and ended up chatting to her on Twitter a couple of times of late... so when a good opportunity arose to meet her, I jumped at the chance. First impressions were good, and second and third impressions continued to be even better. Eliza is great company, smart and easy to talk to. And for those who are more interested in what happens when the clothes come off (and yes, I know that's most of us)... well, suffice to say she clearly enjoys what she does, and she's damn good at it. She kept me on my toes with one trick after another, right the way through to the end of our meeting. I'll definitely be back for more!

You could also ask right at the end of the session, before you leave. That might be better as it's clear that you're not expecting anything right now, but just asking for the future. It also has the added bonus that if she reacts badly, you can just get yourself straight out the door and never come back rather than having to endure the rest of a now-awkward massage.

Yup. Don't worry about the fact that there's no recent post on her reco thread; I saw her not long ago and she's still just as good as she's always been.

Check out Twitter in general. There's plenty of ladies in Halloween costumes.

Another trip to Brass Club to meet someone new, and another fantastically good time. I'd heard good things about Faye, so I thought it was time to see if they were true. And as it turns out... she's better :) First impressions were good when Faye came to lead me into the room, and a conversation became a slow and sensual mutual exploration and disrobing. And then things began to heat up... so much so that I began to wonder if we'd actually make it to the shower. Well, we did... but that didn't cool anything down much. Out of the shower, and Faye then gave me a very good all-over massage with some delicious teasing thrown in, which gradually escalated into exactly what you'd expect. I've no idea why it took me so long to go and see Faye... but it'll definitely be a lot less long before I go to see her again!

Awesome evening all round! Great to meet new friends and reconnect with some old ones. Hopefully there will be another one before too long!

I'm inclined to agree with the consensus here. Telling someone that you see escorts is not a trivial thing, given the stigma that surrounds the whole industry. If you want your friend to stop trying to set you up with people, then just ask her to stop. I don't see that you need to justify it. If you really need to tell her anything, you could just say that you've met someone online recently. You don't have to lie... just don't volunteer *everything*.