Phaedrus

Now, we just need them to not be on Fridays... :)

The phone number on her ad is neither ALO West nor Paradise. The pic, however, is definitely Lucy Liu. CK was on to her last week :) I'm sure that if she is at either ALO or Paradise, she'll be advised of the wisdom of using fake pics pretty quickly. If not, she'll just have to work it out on her own :)

Why not have a look at the ads? https://www.lyla.com/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=315

True. The law was designed to create fear. On that front, at least, it can't be called a complete failure. I don't see that there's much difference. If LE want in, they'll be coming in. What really matters is how discreet the place is, and therefore how likely the neighbors are to make the police do something. Most places are pretty discreet or they'd have been shut down long ago. Sorry, but I'm not following your logic here. Are you claiming that the old laws were never enforced because somehow, people knew that the SCC would eventually rule them unconstitutional? The old laws were in place for many years before the Bedford case was even launched. This industry was present throughout those years. You seem unfamiliar with the law. I can guarantee you that they don't give a damn about living off the avails, because that's no longer the law of the land. The relevant law now is the new provisions on what you can and can't advertize. Because, obviously, *nothing* is advertized with pictures of semi-nude women in this day and age, because they all got into trouble when they did... Or just stay away from spas in Brandon. That won't be an issue for me, since I've never been there and have no plans to go :) https://www.lyla.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=202104

That was great... until right at the end, where they missed a golden opportunity to cut to Donald Plett.

If you're paying attention, you'll have noticed that Michelle's return has generated some excitement among the folks who have been around here for a bit. You may also have noticed that this doesn't happen for everyone who returns to the industry. And even if you hadn't spotted those things, you can notice that this is one of the longer reco threads on the board. There are good reasons for this. Having been to renew my acquaintance with Michelle recently, I can confirm that those reasons are still just as good as they ever were. And by the time I saw her... definitely no rust. I checked thoroughly :)

They've been fine for me with the new laws so far! This comes down to LE priorities, really, and LE have better things to do than go after consenting adults who are having fun together, even if some wingnuts may disapprove of that fun. I believe that at least some of the spa owners are in touch with LE, and therefore know what the risks are. Also, I suspect that if LE wanted to make an example of anyone to send a message they'd have done so by now. If you want further evidence, read the indignant press releases from the abolitionists (thread in the general section), who are belatedly realizing that having the political contacts to get a stupid law passed does not actually mean that anyone else will pay either you or it any more attention than is warranted. You should be fine with any MA at a reputable spa, or any Indie with a good track record. No worrying required! Perhaps. But there are always people who are too damn lazy to do any research themselves and want to be spoon-fed. Ignore them, or tell them to read the recos for the city they're in... or if you feel like some gentle trolling, recommend someone in Iqaluit :)

Listicle of the day: http://www.bustle.com/articles/44769-12-bacon-hacks-that-will-take-your-weekend-brunch-to-a-whole-new-level

Does your classified ad still exist? I was just looking at the Ottawa Escort classified ads, and I don't see it there...

Once she's joined the board here (I assume she will; the other CMJ MAs all have), drop her a PM and she can bring you into CMJ as a guest.

It also just means she's not allowed to post here for a bit. I presume she's still seeing people...

I'm carrying on as normal, but I can't keep everyone in business single-handed. I'd love it if I could, but I can't. And also, "normal" for me at this time of year means "not seeing anyone until I'm organized for Christmas, which will give me an incentive to get off my ass and do it" followed by "too damn busy to see anyone". Roll on January...

So, I haven't looked at this in detail yet, but... Do you have to supply them with any passwords or whatever in order to aid their search? Or just hand the device over and let them get on with it?

It's true... if you avoid rush-hour, once you're on the 417 getting from east to west (or vice versa) is very quick. Apart from all the construction around Vanier, but I hope that'll be worth it in the end :) Traveling north/south is a far bigger issue for me, because the highway doesn't go that way. I particularly despise driving up and down Merivale; alas, the temptations are too great to avoid it...

The best think here would be for the people being hit to just say, "No, you do not have my permission to publish my picture or any footage with me in it". Unfortunately most people probably don't realize they can do that.

You mean the classified ads? Yeah, I'd noticed a lot of them were gone, but I think most of the ones that are gone are the ones relating to things that can no longer be advertized at all, which would probably explain why it happened.

If someone has deleted her pics, there's nothing you can do. She may have removed them and replaced them, in which case all the old links will probably be invalid - and again, once you're past the deadline for editing posts, there's nothing you can do. Mod probably could delete the old posts, but I strongly suspect he has many other things that are higher on his list of priorities right now given the recent changes in laws and rules here, so I wouldn't hold your breath...

A lot of it is common sense... but have you ever tried teaching a computer to understand common sense? If so, you'll understand why it doesn't always work as well as it might. There's two things going on here. First, some things are just getting filtered out, and if you try to post with one of those in it then you'll get an error message that links to the censor list. That published list is separate from the ones the machines use (it's designed to be human-readable, for one thing :) ) and so it may not be completely up to date, but I'm sure Mod's doing his best (and again, if things are missing, tell him!). Second, some things get auto-replaced when posts are displayed, e.g. xxx (that was three of the letter between w and y when I typed it in and now it's "[A]").

I'm not convinced Kathleen Wynne is passing the buck here, or deliberately slowing things down. She's just going through the process. To have acted publicly before the bill became law, even after it had been signed by the GG, would have opened her up to accusations of jumping the gun and possibly weakened any advice the AG might give. As for what she's done: in her position as Premier, she has simply asked the person whose job it is to give her legal advice and to represent her government on legal issues to... provide some legal advice. That seems to me to be a prudent and sensible first step on the road to referring it to court, and eventually challenging the law. This stuff is political enough already; trying to do too much too soon will make it very much more political, which will distract from the important stuff. What we don't know is what's happening behind closed doors. I'm sure the AG was not in the least bit surprised to have received this request for advice, and I don't think it's too much of a stretch to believe she probably already has a pretty solid idea of what advice she's going to give in response. The wheels of justice grind slowly, but they do get there eventually. In this case I'd prefer *not* to see a rushed and weak case against the new law brought to court prematurely. That's not in anybody's interest.

I interrupt this nativity thread to bring you a picture of two T-Rexes fighting over a watermelon.

I don't think this is surprising. The same would apply to almost all legislation. Most people just don't pay attention to it. Which is why we get the politicians that we do...

One thing that EVERYONE can usefully do: if you try to post something that gets censored, and you think it shouldn't be, drop Mod a PM to say what (and why). It's not just forbidden words that can be blocked; ones that are OK can be explicitly permitted. I've just sent him one about "cir-c-u-m-stances" becoming "cirstances". And if something that's banned isn't on the published list of banned words, let Mod know so he can add it. The more we do this, the better the blacklist and whitelist will become and the less we'll have trouble with it. It's much easier for Mod to fix the bugs when he knows what they are!

This is true. This, however, is not. It won't. No government is going to manage to legislate sex work out of existence. Many have tried; all have failed. They can make it more difficult, and more dangerous for all concerned, but they can't stop it. I can't help but think that they know this, and that the knowledge of their own impotence is why the abolitionists are so *angry* all the time... Let me ask you this: can you name any time and place in history where the exchange of sex for money hasn't happened, to a greater or lesser extent, irrespective of how much the government of the day approved of that or tried to stop it? This has been debated a lot in other threads elsewhere on the board over the last few months, but... suffice to say, I disagree. LE have many better things to be doing than going after consenting adults who are having fun that the pearl-clutchers in government disapprove of. Let me ask you another question: do you think that LE will enforce the new laws more zealously than the old ones? Visiting a MA at her place has always been illegal (it was being in a bawdy house under the old laws). They didn't get raided then. Why should they get raided now? Exactly the same effect as it always has done: none, because it hasn't happened, unless there was a good reason for it. And the only reason for it is that the person being raided has been indiscreet enough that the neighbors have worked out what's going on. The police work largely onteh basis of complaints, and if nobody complains then there's no need for them to do anything. The independent ladies I've met have all been concerned to ensure that they stay under the radar. Of course, it's possible that LE could decide that they want to enforce the new laws far more rigorously than they ever bothered enforcing the old ones.... but I doubt that'll happen, and I'll continue to doubt it until I see it.

Have a look at their website if you're a member, or at their profile here if you're not. lots of pics there. As for "not too business"... I haven't seen all their MAs by any means, but I've never met one who I'd describe as overly businesslike (assuming that's what you mean).