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Don't worry about it, Malika. I'll love it for you. ;) Sent from my HTC EVO 3D X515a using Tapatalk

Or is there something related to scrutiny by LE or bylaw in the east? Sent from my HTC EVO 3D X515a using Tapatalk

Honestly, I'm not a fan of recommendations, reviews or rating one another's various bits. Yeah, I know, the whole premise of this site is to recommend providers to each other, but I find that what works for me or makes me happy is personal, and might not appeal to someone else. Well, in principle anyways. I'm pretty vanilla. I'm more disturbed by rating body bits, whether they are male or female. I have a type I like: genealogy around my age or younger, slim, preferrably with a few tattoos. A nice tight butt. I'm not a boob guy, so I couldn't care less whether they are big or small, real or fake. I tend to prefer brunettes, as well, but it's not a hard fast rule. However. I can decide for myself whether I find someone attractive. I don't need to roll out a list of names and pictures of the ladies on here with nice asses. I enjoy the pictures, but I can definitely see how it is hurtful for one SP to see a bunch of immature banter about how a different SP has the "best" this or that. Great if you're the winner, not so much if you're not. I'm not hung like a horse. I don't really care. Much. But, I also don't want an open discussion amongst women I've met comparing my advantages and disadvantages with other providers and clients. That's hurtful too. And "what's good for the goose is good for the gander" is about as useful an excuse as "two wrongs make a right". If you don't like the "best of" threads, don't replicate them by creating your own. We all have different shapes, sizes, likes and dislikes. There's nothing "best" in any of that. Sent from my HTC EVO 3D X515a using Tapatalk

As my mobile signature dictates, I'm using an Android phone, having switched from Apple. I got sick and tired of being locked down by Apple's restrictive software, which made the device a lot more difficult to use than it could be. I've been absolutely thrilled with the Droid, and the screen is much bigger, the processor much faster, as many apps as I had with Apple or more, and I can actually use the device without Apple getting in my way. What used to take hours to set up with Apple took minutes with Droid, and I can now log in to my home network from anywhere on my phone and watch a TV show I downloaded and stored on my network drive, all in a matter of seconds. That was impossible with Apple. Sent from my HTC EVO 3D X515a using Tapatalk

Well, given that a previous poster said it was a waste of taxpayers' dollars for LE to pursue these kinds of cases, I suppose it *is* part of the discussion. Sent from my HTC EVO 3D X515a using Tapatalk

I haven't had the pleasure of meeting you, but happy birthday all the same! Sent from my HTC EVO 3D X515a using Tapatalk

I would totally be willing to offer any MA or SP a full relaxation BFE massage. :D Just sayin' Any takers, PM me. LOL. Sent from my HTC EVO 3D X515a using Tapatalk

Damn it! But, Christmas is coming, and my birthday not long after, and all I want for both is my own first duo-orgy-harem-hot-multiple-women thingy! Sent from my HTC EVO 3D X515a using Tapatalk

I'll be the voice of dissent and say I am not in favour of these protests. Nope, I'm not one of the so-called 1%. I'm far from rich. I have debt, but not an obscene amount. I'm not a fan of greed. I don't think war is a solution to anything. But... We live in Canada, not the US. There are key distinctions to be made there. We have better regulation and government oversight of things like the banking industry. We have less influence in our politics from lobby groups, simply because our democracy works differently. As opposed to the Americans, a Canadian voter knows that *their* vote counts. In the US, the popular vote does not elect a president, the electoral college does. What can the "99%" do in Canada? Get informed and vote. I'm sickened by the willful ignorance and apathy Canadians show towards their own politics. How many vote? How many of those who do actually have a clue about the issues, or ask enough questions to get beyond the speaking points and sound bites? A dwindling number of both. And yet the mighty 99% will chant and stomp and cry out about injustice in droves. Where were you when Harper was running towards a majority government? *That's* how you exercise your power to influence change. And, this is something that most of the other nations that host Occupy-whatever protests don't have. The problem with the protests is they are a populist, disjointed and confusing mess. It's an example of why anarchy doesn't work; ultimately, in every group you need a leader and a focus. From what I've seen, the protests are failing because they lack that focus. In trying to represent everyone and everything, nobody has a clue what they are asking for. The protests would have been more effective if they had chosen a focus and made their goal a public education campaign around that focus. Knowledge is power. And, don't be under the illusion that the protests are blameless, innocent and peaceful gatherings of responsible activists. There has been enough drug use, violence, drunkenness and disorder to warrant a little attention from law enforcement. It may have been caused by a small faction, but that's the other problem with protests; they always draw the wrong element along with the right. Sent from my HTC EVO 3D X515a using Tapatalk

Malika, if I call dibs on you as my date, would that make it a package deal? :D Sounds like a win win to me. Sent from my HTC EVO 3D X515a using Tapatalk

I don't believe being stressed should be any excuse for the driver's actions. It's justification, but not an excuse. Really, dealing with the public is always stressful. People are stupid. People are frequently assholes. Those last two are not mutually exclusive, rather they are quite regularly a potent combination that would test the resolve of anyone working in a service industry with the public. That's why I took my misanthropic ass and found a job away from the public. Bus drivers have a stressful job, but blowing up and verbally assaulting a customer, let alone the verbal threats, would get just about anyone in a job serving the public fired. This wasn't a small outburst, it was a full-on rage. Stress may explain why it happened, but it doesn't change that it's entirely unacceptable. My gripe is the constant union protection. The immediate reaction? "there's no proof it was the *driver* speaking on the tape". Just like the putz driving with his knees and doing paperwork in QC, the unions shelter workers that demonstrably deserve severe reprimand or loss of employment. Sent from my HTC EVO 3D X515a using Tapatalk

I did the opposite when I moved to the US; I drove cross country and imported my Canadian car into the States. Never had an issue with the metric gauges and dials. If they allowed that, I wouldn't expect it to be harder going the other way. Sent from my HTC EVO 3D X515a using Tapatalk

I didn't read all of the thread, so I apologize in advance if I cover some of the same ground. I think the two most important things I'd have to stress about getting implants is to do it for the right reason, and don't go bigger than *you* want. There's nothing the matter with implants. Personally, I'm more of a leg and ass man, but I've never been shy about admiring nice breasts. ;) Yes, they feel different, and I suppose I'd have to admit I prefer the feel of natural boobs, but it seems odd that someone would be turned off completely by implants. You have to do it for the right reason. A job or a man are not the right reasons. If getting implants will make you happier or more confident, that's the right reason. But, never let yourself get pressured and never pressure yourself because of what someone else thinks. It's your body. And don't go too big. My one gripe about implants is that some women think having cartoonishly huge breasts is the way to go, and it looks like someone halved a basketball and got creative with the Krazy Glue. I'd much rather be with a confident and sensual woman with natural handfulls (or less) than a shallow, withdrawn woman with massive fun bags. But, maybe I'm just weird. Sent from my HTC EVO 3D X515a using Tapatalk

Ignoring the, for want of a better word, boldness of operating this way, the recruitment of workers from a teen help hotline is troubling, and so is having your 17-year-old son involved, doing it in a home with your kids, and particularly sharing cocaine and X with your kid. I wouldn't call this a waste of taxpayer dollars, or an example of LE oppressing sex workers. This seems like a case of irresponsibility on many levels leading to inevitable and, probably, necessary LE intervention. Sent from my HTC EVO 3D X515a using Tapatalk

SA, I'm genuinely curious about something here: you very frequently mention on here that you are pitfalls only because of the legality, and that you aren't worried about LE because what you are doing is not against the law. Yet, when you book you take the opportunity to tell the agency that you are booking outcall becaause of legality? Is this out of worry that if they are LE trying to trap you your evident knowledge of the law will ward them off? Possibly the question is coming across the wrong way, but I'm truly curious why you would bother making a statement that could make an agency or SP suspicious. Sent from my HTC EVO 3D X515a using Tapatalk

Rephrasing and simplifying the question asked of the ladies regarding the gents: Would/could an SP have a non-professional relationship with a client? I have known a lot of dancers in the past, and one of the general rules that almost all of them followed was not dating customers. This wasn't simply a club rule or a legality issue, it was overwhelmingly termed more as a reaction to the circumstances in which they met. Generally, once the lady saw the guy as a customer, they could never view that guy as anything other than a customer. The category the guy fell into was defined, basically. I would imagine it no different for an MA or SP. Once you have accepted money from someone in a business arrangement to share your time and services with them, can you see that same person as a romantic opportunity outside of that business arrangement? Or, will you always see them as just a customer underneath it all. I ask, having never been propositioned for a relationship of any sort outside of that business arrangement. :)

I fully agree that politics should be left out of this occassion. Again, I support the troops, even if I don't support the mission they are sent on. It takes a tremendous amount of courage to stand in the path of a credible threat to your life for the sake of someone else, whether you are doing it for reasons you believe in or not. I commend every single one of them for having that courage, because I'm the sort of questioning, doubting person that couldn't. My grandmother lived in occupied Holland as well, and I have heard so many incredible stories of their life in wartime. My grandfather met her after the liberation of Holland. He was a cook in the airforce. He's been gone now for several years, but every year on Remembrance Day I listen to "Brothers in Arms" from Dire Straits and close my eyes and think of the stories I've been told. It's a quiet moment for me, no matter where I am. Da1Root, I was merely suggesting that the sentiment and bravado behind that slogan is very American in the same way that "these colours don't run" is exceptionally American. What I am proudest about in our military history in Canada is that we have always gone to war to help bring peace and to liberate people, as ridiculous as fighting for peace sounds. It's not aggressive bravado that I am proud of, it's humanity backed by a willingness to sacrifice. I think that's the greatest legacy the men and women of our armed forces live and grant us, and it includes the right to disagree. I think the greatest tribute and respect I can show is questioning why they are being sent into harm's way, in order to try and ensure that their sacrifice is meaningful and valid rather than wasted. That's the greatest support we can all show the troops, since we're not standing there on the field of battle with them.

You know, I fully support the troops, haven't recently supported the missions they've been sent on, and hope they come back safe, sane and alive. I also find that quote infuriatingly American and ridiculous. Lest we forget. Sent from my HTC EVO 3D X515a using Tapatalk

*sigh* I'm finding myself conflicted now; Meg and Julia.... Offers like that from women like them don't exist in my reality. ;) Sent from my HTC EVO 3D X515a using Tapatalk

Then it's a good thing we have an impartial moderator to defer to when situations get out of hand, threads are hijacked, or insults are thrown around. I didn't read the entire thread, so I didn't see the personal attack you speak of, but if you're offended or concerned I would suggest you should discuss it with the proper authority. As for the original topic, I'd be interested in seeing a reference to an actual case where a client was arrested for hosting SPs in his/her home or hotel room. I'm sure it's very unlikely to happen, but the wording of the laws is fishy enough I can see how they could be bent in that direction. Sent from my HTC EVO 3D X515a using Tapatalk

Excellent question. Somebody asked me this recently, and it's had me thinking. For the moment, my short answer is "I don't know". That sounds like a cop out, but it isn't. I really just don't know because I have never been placed in the circumstance where I would need to find out. Not being in the situation, it's a lot easier to see things rationally, and relationships are never strictly rational. I know that I don't think less of anyone for their chosen profession. I also know that I am somewhat insecure about competition from other men, though I have never been a jealous individual. I think the only question I would have about whether I could handle such a relationship would have strictly to do with a struggle to decide if I can handle polyamory, not whether I can accept that this is how you make a living. But, until I'm faced with the prospect, I don't know if I can really know. One foot in front of the other, feel it out and see whether you are comfortable with it or not, I guess. Sent from my HTC EVO 3D X515a using Tapatalk

Actually, it's nice that people get an equal opportunity to express themselves about a topic. When you start a post you open a topic for discussion for anyone who reads or participates, not simply for your own edification. Obviously the laws about prostitution are a contentious issue, and I'm pretty sure one person saying that they are more/less legal/a criminal because of the choices they make as a provider or consumer just make the situation more contentious. Under the current laws, everyone is guilty. That's the problem with the laws. The rest is semantics in an effort to justify your actions and make yourself feel better. Otherwise, we'd all be posting under our real names. @Elizabeth, thanks for finding that link. I knew I had read that somewhere but couldn't remember where. Sent from my HTC EVO 3D X515a using Tapatalk

What I'm about to say will likely be misconstrued, but I hope otherwise. I'm worried that the desire to use this stage as an opportunity to further drive home elements of the argument made in the Himmel case is going to detract from the pursuit of the circumstances surrounding Pickton. I am fully aware that the realities of criminalization have an impact on sex worker safety, and that this contributed to the ease with which Pickton could hunt, but the real questions are not being answered by any of that. Criminalization itself did not lead police to neglect Pickton as a suspect, or drop charges against him when they had first been lain, or stop police from searching his property when he had made the offer. The greater social question contributed to ripening the environment for a predator, but didn't have a direct role in police incompetence or inaction. I'm more interested in seeing the police grilled directly about those issues, and the obvious prejudice that fed into them.

Respectfully, is it that they are being portrayed as hard-working *workers*, or is the tone a little more pitying? I certainly haven't read a lot of Vancouver media, so I sincerely don't know, but the tone I have taken from most articles on this subject, including the ones referenced here, does not support the idea that people have psychologically legitimized the work they were doing. The tone seems more along the lines of "those poor disenfranchised drug addicts who were forced to do dangerous and degrading things to support their disease, who weren't even cared about by the police." I like what you're suggesting far better.

@Berlin, I'm in complete agreement. I find most labels annoying in general, including BBW, MILF, an especially "hobbiest;" I'm not collecting Hummels or stamps, I'm having sex with another human being. Really, though, labels are a common shorthand, and we'll always use them. I don't think that 90% of the people using "spinner" to describe someone are actually referring to a real or imagined ability to spin anyone on anything, which is why I really don't get bent out of shape about the term. No matter what term you use there is the potential that someone is going to find it offensive. I've seen women get offended by being described as thin, petite, slim, etc. As for hierarchy, other posters had brought it up in previous replies to this thread. I just think people need to chill out a little about terms. There are much more blatant uses of crude descriptors or language being used on here that nobody seems to worry about. I'm certainly not defending this particular word versus any other, as I never really use it. @Julia, I've actually seen several references to women of various ethnicities on here using the term "spinner," particularly in the section on Ottawa Stripclubs.