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Oh, poor Lee, the pitfalls of menopause. Eat some chocolate & have a good cry. There there! Sandi :icon_lol:

I love bacon & don't want any kids so this is good to know. Question: will it also attack the sperm? It would be nice have backup birth control if the condom breaks.;-) S

It's an Army saying, I don't own it. Have at 'er! Actually I do. I never would, but I do have that right. The above are from Section 2 of the 1982 Charter of Rights & Freedoms. Should you take issue with it, petition the courts....but you will lose. Sandi

It absolutely is not. What you are essentially saying is that because a white man wants to see an Asian provider, it's his "preference" & that's ok. And because of that she should automatically say yes? What if her husband is white? What if her day job is in a male-white-30+ demographic? Would it not make sense to limit her client pool to those who do not fall into this category out of an abundance of caution? But if a white woman does the same, she is automatically branded a racist? I am NOT saying she isn't a bigot. The fact is that I really don't know. None of us do. And for the record, RG, who BTW we know you aren't picking on, never said he supported anyone being a racist, he said it was her right. This may be picking fly shit out of pepper, but to me, it is very much a clear distinction. She has the legal right to be a sloped forehead, backwards ass, country inbred, ears flat back, cross eyed redneck, perched on a rock & nekked huntin' for her meal with a slingshot...... but that doesn't mean, EVER , that I support or agree with it. It does however mean, as repulsive as she may be, I will defend with my dying breath her right to show us all how putrid she is. That is the downside of a free speech society that I WILL never relinquish, no matter how I feel about what has been said. Because if I get to quash HER words, who gets to choose which of MINE are spoken? It is not a balance at all! I personally agree with you. It is a ridiculous sentence that I also find offensive. And others, clearly. But if we start censoring every word on the planet, we may as well delve into book burning, blacked out news papers & online censoring.....think about that! I would much rather be offended by some twit's post, respond & have discourse than the alternative which is that MY voice is also silenced. Free speech, baby, love it or move to Cuba, lol. But for the record, this is a very passionate & intelligent discussion. And I am also enjoying the good manners involved. Sandi

I agree, not because she should have her rights trampled, but just blurting out, " whites only " is so very 1950's Alabama water fountain. Not good advertising regardless of her thoughts because ALL prospective guests do not know her reason. And a lot of white men will be put off with that statement. Agreed, the bluntness is certainly offputting. Sad but true. I am always baffled by those who make 2013 sweeping remarks in my presence assuming that this freckled, blond, caucasian person will not say something. As always Cat, level & rational with helpful feedback. I'm curvy but will you marry me? :wink: Seriously, I worked for an incall here in Van for a whole week, met an awesome girl, Black, who had moved from elsewhere to escape an abusive marriage. He had national gang affiliations & for THIS reason, she would not entertain Black men. Is she a racist? Of course not. Fair enough & you are so right. If a man wants to see a brunette spinner, should I be offended as a curvy blond? No. That said, I am not physically attracted to _insert whatever_, I don't want to offend anyone, but for ME, if guests are respectful, clean, don't barter, I will ALWAYS have fun. But I have, as Cat pointed out, never had a bad date with a man from particular racial demographic that has traumatized me. If I had, I may have needed to qualify my advertising. It IS a bit harsh, I agree. But that boundary may be for any reason, as many have stated. Of course it could be that she is a bigot & so not great at marketing. No it isn't simple because you don't know her reasons. And I will speak here for a lot of us, PLEASE stop referring to us kissing you, blowing you, fucking you as any where NEAR the same as processing your debit card & handing you back your groceries. It is NOT the same & so incredibly dismissive of what we really do. Thank you. Absolutely we have that right. And if I decline an encounter, I do not feel the NEED to justify. However, I do also feel in this case, the crux is the blunt, harsh, "so there" message that comes across. But I have seen sites & ads that state a racial preference but in a soft & explanatory fashion. No means no but it came across as nicer & not at all racist. " For personal reasons, I prefer not to see-___whomever___ men. Thank you for understanding " It reduces the incidence of hurt feelings or misconstrued intentions. Sorry dude, it has everything to do with sex. CERB doesn't stand for, Cheese Eggs Recommendation Board. It's a sex site, not a Zehr's. Respectfully, not ONE person here has supported racism. This is a pretty cool place where ALL are encouraged to participate. Exactly! Simply because she is an SP should never imply that a man having a full wallet gets to see anyone he wants, regardless of her boundaries, concerns, etc. And honestly, who would want to? What actual man wants to anally penetrate a lady who does not voluntarily offer greek? Who wants to court a woman who is a CBJ provider then shove his uncovered dick in her mouth & blow? So, by extension, why would any man of colour wish to show up at the door of an SP who does not see non-white gentlemen (for whatever reason) just to be denied or worse, have a scene? Is racism repugnant? Hell yes. So just spend your time with those who aren't, be they SP, friends, what have you. And hope that the bigots just inbreed themselves out of the human gene pool into instinction. Sandi

Now and Then. IMDb link Sweet movie! Sandi

I did wonder that too. But I would also like to know why he has been here more than a year now suddenly is of a broken heart. It occured to me, at first, that maybe his GF found his account. In which case, sorrry dude, you brought this on yourself. But this post, given that after 15 months & his only one, his profile says Hobbyist but no reco, & now, poor me??? My second thought is, " Pity Party Ploy ", cheap & looking for a sympathy freebie. " Sorry, I don't think so." Sandi

Perhaps I missed the Cerb memo where the ladies needed someone to come to their rescue & you were elected saviour of the downtrodden, but dude, enough already. Because personally, as a smart articulate woman who can fully advocate for herself, I find your attitude & posts incredibly patronizing. That said, I have a whole other issue to address. This entire post makes me uncomfortable for reasons that have nothing to do with it's tone. Firstly, it reeks of a fishing expedition on how to run an agency & I feel reads like an SP or Agency/Spa discussing an Escort Industry problem. Because why does a photographer need to know the ins & outs of how to reduce the number of no shows? Again, why is this so important to you? Respectfully, if you ask questions here, you will get answers. Whether or not you like them is immaterial. This is a public forum with strong opinions from intelligent people. No one is trying to be mean, they are simply being honest & sharing their thoughts. If you have something informative, why not post it here if it is so awesome? But just because folks disagree with you does not mean that anyone is twisting stories, taking things out of context or that your posts are considered useless. I find them incredibly useful for my main bone of contention: your lack of discretion in implying that professional secert keepers are sharing info with you, followed by YOU cryptically sharing it here. I have 2 photographers that are also friends. They know my real name, address, phone number & personal details of my life. If I were to read a post such as this from either of them, I would be beyond incensed. And they would no longer be trusted. They would, however, be in every SP only area in which I participate as a warning to other ladies not to engage their services. You may wish to consider this when you read again how you have spoken out of school in reference to your clients. And since you feel that the reco is of such paramount importance that it MUST be written, know this, also, please: by alluding to the fact that SPs are talking to you, complaining, whatever, you are, without proof, quietly & perhaps irrevocably, casting aspersions as to the character & discretion of ladies you have seen. This alone may cost them more in terms of clients, money & reputation than any reco or lack thereof. In my mind, a sincere apology is rarely followed by a comment like this. The fact of the matter is: you got a lot of answers. Also a fact: you just don't like any of them. Fact: not a Cerb problem. Also fact: seems it's only yours. Sandi

Perhaps I missed the Cerb memo where the ladies needed someone to come to their rescue & you were elected saviour of the downtrodden, but dude, enough already. Because personally, as a smart articulate woman who can fully advocate for herself, I find your attitude & posts incredibly patronizing. That said, I have a whole other issue to address. This entire post makes me uncomfortable for reasons that have nothing to do with it's tone. Firstly, it reeks of a fishing expedition on how to run an agency & I feel reads like an SP or Agency/Spa discussing an Escort Industry problem. Because why does a photographer need to know the ins & outs of how to reduce the number of no shows? Again, why is this so important to you? Respectfully, if you ask questions here, you will get answers. Whether or not you like them is immaterial. This is a public forum with strong opinions from intelligent people. No one is trying to be mean, they are simply being honest & sharing their thoughts. If you have something informative, why not post it here if it is so awesome? But just because folks disagree with you does not mean that anyone is twisting stories, taking things out of context or that your posts are considered useless. I find them incredibly useful for my main bone of contention: your lack of discretion in implying that professional secert keepers are sharing info with you, followed by YOU cryptically sharing it here. I have 2 photographers that are also friends. They know my real name, address, phone number & personal details of my life. If I were to read a post such as this from either of them, I would be beyond incensed. And they would no longer be trusted. They would, however, be in every SP only area in which I participate as a warning to other ladies not to engage their services. You may wish to consider this when you read again how you have spoken out of school in reference to your clients. And since you feel that the reco is of such paramount importance that it MUST be written, know this, also, please: by alluding to the fact that SPs are talking to you, complaining, whatever, you are, without proof, quietly & perhaps irrevocably, casting aspersions as to the character & discretion of ladies you have seen. This alone may cost them more in terms of clients, money & reputation than any reco or lack thereof. In my mind, a sincere apology is rarely followed by a comment like this. The fact of the matter is: you got a lot of answers. Also a fact: you just don't like any of them. Fact: not a Cerb problem. Also fact: seems it's only yours. Sandi Sorry I posted in the wrong thread. I reposted in the correct one but will also leave this here. It applies to both, I feel. Thanks. S

I have photos taken by 2 male photographers & clearly, by knowing me, I am obviously exploited, pimped out & on drugs. Amphetamines, naturally, as evidenced by my svelte & slim form. I thought we all were......no????? I saw the ad & there is no way you can even tell it's a guy. Not to mention that out of ALL the garbage one needs to weed through on that problem plagued site, THIS girl is the one who is targeted. Because she is tiny? Seriously, most negative industry perpetuating, presumptuous, slanderous post ever! So wrong. Sandi

No shit, this is just creepy! Although, if I had children, this would work for me but discussed ahead of time. You know, " Hey, I know you want your privacy but every once in a while Mom needs to check your phone/computer to make sure you're good." My parents always reserved the right to do a room sweep if they thought something was wrong or pick up the extension to make sure I wasn't planning a bank robbery with my crew! :icon_wink: And these days, with online/cell bullying & pedophile stalkers, I believe parents have not only the right but the duty to monitor those with whom their kids are communicating. My thoughts exactly before I even got to this part of your post. If an SO is so suspicious she resorts to this, doubts existed long ago. I would NEVER do this to a BF. If I'm thinking he's cheating, he gets confronted, I will ask to see his phone, & if he has something to hide, he gets a one way ticket to the door. I abhor liars & flat out refuse to be in a relationship with no solid foundation of trust. And it works both ways, the exception being work. My guests expect & get absolute privacy. If someone were tracking me, saw THEIR messages back & I found out, I would have his balls on my bookshelf in 2 seconds. Sandi

Hey Capp, welcome to Cerb. Windsor has a few great local ladies & here is a link to Windsor Ads To the 2 great girls who helped me out with info when I visited: Lacy and Lexi Champagne Also we have Naughty Angel Here is her Cerb RECO It may be possible that she is on a break at the moment. Please do not let a lack of Reco here on Cerb for the other great women be any kind of deterrent. The fact is that Cerb simply isn't the review/reco/ad place in Windsor that it is in Ottawa/Montreal, etc. And when you visit these ladies sites, you will see links they have which will lead you to some more Windsor-centric ad venues. If you do see someone & have a great time, get back HERE with a reco. Help promote the site farther south. Sandi Forgot to qualify that a reco/review here or anywhere, should ideally be with the lady's permission. An even more stellar move: send it to her first for approval.( graphic details, something private, etc) It will score you major points as a gentleman enhancing YOUR standing in the future, which is a great thing if you need references. Also, know that Cerb requires 5 or 6 quality posts prior to starting your own reco thread. You can add on to an existing reco at any time. S

How come you take the time to repeatedly put out this sign: & think it makes sense to the smart people of Van? Sandi

Wrong, wrong, wrong.... run him down.......with a big net in one hand & a box of condoms in the other.... men love that! Well, I have been known to go up & lick a random chest, but I have recently been informed by the local constabulary that this is considered " pushy ". Puritans! Seriously though, I once saw 2 hot guys doing Hydro work & I just blurted out, " Is it wrong that I'm turned on by dayglo orange?" Got a good laugh followed by, " Hell, no!". Just the other day, I was in the line at the drug store, grabbed my stuff, looked back & WOW, what a hottie. I actually did a double take. He's looking at me like I 'm nuts but I couldn't help it. So I say, " Man, you look like a younger Jon Hamm", which he did. He got a huge smile on his face, looked at his buddy, back at me & said, " Thanks, I'll take that". I gave him a 2 thumbs up & said, "Tell your Mom, good job!" & walked away. I think men appreciate a sincere compliment as much as we do. As long as their wife/GF is not around. Bitches be crazy. If Junior Jon Hamm had asked, I would have given him my address & a key to my apartment! Alas, no. Maybe next time! Fun post SS! Sandi From a woman that had me pass a note in study hall to the cute zygote cooking our wings......seriously? And I don't need a big hamm... I need a big sausage. Get it straight! :icon_razz:

As always, a measured & well laid out response. If I may add to your list of reasons: There are unfortunately certain cities with a notorious history of no shows, last minute cancels & other assorted waste of time crap. My apologies to the wonderful men who reside & hobby there, but Winnipeg is in the top 3 of Cerb ladies list of " Won't go, won't show, not gonna happen" cities. Sorry, but that is the truth. Now you may have zero blame in this but you are now the recipient of others disrespect for a lady's time. The city also has a major pimp/low rent indi/b&s agency problem. Not to mention the ever lovely Mr Jetz, who in my opinion, should be eviscerated & hung by his entrails in a public ceremony. But I digress. My best advice: Do your research in your chosen intended, make sure that your deposit will not disappear (happens sadly which is why knowledge is paramount) & keep that appointment. Once you establish a reliable reputation with a few escorts, deposits may be waived in lieu of a personal history or good references (note that they are still at the lady's discretion & agencies don't count) And if successful, you may turn the tide of opinion for your city that will invite many wonderful ladies to visit, only enhancing your hobby experience. No pressure though, LOL! Hope this helps. Sandi

Oh man I spelled your name wrong in my comment. Sorry Kennidi. All the best dear lady!!! Sandi

I believe that so many reasons abound as to why men choose paid company rather than a GF, wife, what have you, but I look at asshats who post shit like Curious describes this way: They are paying us and the reality is that these guys fall into the "NEED TO PAY FOR IT" category. Their "personality", I imagine, leaves no other options. It's also why they live on sites that not only allow, but encourage & reward the disparaging of women who actually let them play with their boobies. These sad little men, with their sad little winkies that they need to pay to get touched, and make me imagine on the other side of the keyboard sits this usually have the social skills of an inbred jackal & couldn't get it ANY other way. I don't feel sorry for them. Because they are the rage-aholics who will never have a healthy relationship, likely are on every douche list in the country & if SPs/MAs were to suddenly disappear, they would explode in utter frustration knowing they haven't the ability to ever get laid again! They know it, they resent it, so they turn it around to blame the imperfect woman who probably cringed at their touch regardless of the cash in hand. Sandi P.S. Feel free to repost this on any other site out there. I have no fear since I don't do bestiality!

Uh...ok? Firstly, from MY personal experience: when times were slow here in Vancouver, every once in a while over the last 6 years, I have applied for a variety of jobs within my level of experience. I have hospitality, government, factory, sales experience & am fluent in both official languages. I always hold an updated resume; well done, spelled correctly everywhere: (you know, you're as opposed to your when I mean you are) I have always specified on my resume that my escort experience has been on the phones, booking appointments, screening, etc. NOT actual calls. Until I changed the wording of the resume to indicate ONLY the Sales, Booking, Advertising, Time Management, what have you of this job, ALL true, I was placated at best, sometimes discounted outright. FLAT OUT, this business has a stigma. Like it, don't like it. Whatever. But deal with it, because it is the the truth. To anyone who feels that their, ( not there ) SP resume is of no consequence to any future employment in the private, non sex-trade sector, I invite you to give it a go now. Sadly, I assure you, the results will surprise you. Sandi

A while back an SP elsewhere stated that she was thinking of introducing BBBJ to increase her business. I said this same thing to her: whatever you, or any woman decides for that matter, it needs to be for you, by you & as a result of careful consideration, an educated choice, weighing the pros & cons & most importantly, is it one you can live with? Don't base this decision on any pressure from outside, be it men or another SP & certainly don't do it for the money. When we choose any path that is vastly different to the one we are on now out of need as opposed to want, it rarely ends well. In the end, no one else will be dealing with the consequences but you. And that means any change you make, not just photos. Good luck. Sandi

I have immense respect for ladies who show their faces. It's fearless & emits such confidence that I am in awe. My photos consist of partial profile shots, ones that show only my eyes, my hair or a hat covering my face, or just a smile. My hope is that this is a good start where the description I offer can be seen as true by a gentleman, as best I can. But showing my whole face is simply not in my comfort zone. I love what I do, my friends & sister know, but I also have other work in the public sector. It isn't about me being confronted but the where it could happen. I can't have that discussion at work. And while I have bumped into a few clients in my private life, they have always been discreet since, insofar as privacy, they had more to lose. That isn't the case if some random person saw me on the net. And my photos are not altered so they look exactly like I do every day. But even if the above were not a consideration, the most honest reason is that if I were to be outted, as it were, I have 2 parents that don't know. Would they still love me? Of course. I was raised a great deal overseas where escorting is not only legal, protected & structured, some ladies pay more taxes than doctors & lawyers. Neither has ever said a disparaging word about women this industry & believe the Canada & the U.S. models & views to be puritanical & idiotic. But I am in Vancouver & given our sad history of issues involving women in this business, they would worry non stop. So I just don't think they need to know & I certainly don't need to feel I've stressed them into a heart attack. But to the ladies that are out & proud, major kudos for your bravery. Sandi

When I first started, it was through an agency. There was a gentleman who called regularly & when we were asked to call him to try & book, it was stressed that we only use his name. He was a travelling businessman who met new people all the time & hated anonymous platitudes. He felt them terribly impersonal no matter what the industry & only ever called us by name too. Super guy, great manners. Since then, I only ever address a gentleman by his name in any & all communications & make an effort to use it often. Of course, I have been known to scream out " Holy Christ " or " Sweet Jesus " mid happiness. But that I can't stifle & so far, no one seems to mind .:wink: Sandi

I am always nervous meeting someone for the first time. It only goes away when the door opens & they genuinely smile at me. Men I see a second time, no fear at all since I know they are back because they like me. New friends though, terrified that I may not live up to their physical expectations. Every single time. Sandi

Great question Brad. Can ladies answer or would you prefer a guest only point of view? Sandi

2 years + here & I still stumble across new stuff like this. God I love my job. There are a few references to size, looks, & what I refer to as the esthetically redundant. So for those who feel somehow inadequate in any physical area, please hear this: Women are different. We just are. Not better or worse. Different. Men are visual, visceral beings: Nice tits, great ass, look at those legs. They are what they are. I accept it & have no resentments. Could be because I have huge tits, a great ass & the same calves as when I was 16. It also could be that I had an Army asshole for a father who schooled both of his vagina sporting kids the ways of the world, so I am a realist with a thick skin. Y'all are kinda foul, whatever, lol! The fact is that my gender lean toward the deeper, more emotion based way of dealing with others. Again, not better, just different. We need kindness, manners, humour, cleanliness, respect for our boundaries, a show of some sort that you want US, not just a hole that gets your dick wet. Be it personal or in this world, it is TRULY how we feel. So your pot bellied, bald headed, 6 inch, non Mandigo winkie, geeky clothed, nervous, unsure, shy, quiet, can't stay hard for 4 hours, wish I went down better, I'm not a movie star, whatever, I promise you, I promise you, I promise you, it is all absolutely adorable to us. And so inconsequential. As long as you are good guys, the rest just happens. Trust me, if I felt otherwise, simply check out my posts; you would most assuredly know. Let yourselves off the hook, if you are nice, we will like you. And you will feel it! Sandi

I've said this before, I have no fear of arrest, much less prosecution. I don't rip men off, do drugs, act wrong in a hotel lobby, or do car dates. I am under no illusions that I am on someone's radar, somewhere but I imagine the police & the courts have more important business to attend than me. Also, Cerb & many other sites have been around for quite some time. If we & our lifestyle were of paramount concern to those with powers of arrest & prosecution, it would have happened long ago. So I never worry about it. Sandi