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This might be an odd question, but i'm going to wade in anyway... Been doing my research, been on an off the site for a couple years (great resource btw :) everyone seems friendly here too) This is another one of those "first time with an SP" questions...but a little different It would be my first time....period. I was always in the camp of "waiting til marriage, it will be worth it" (not that I've been totally locked up. I've been to a couple MPs, try to come out of my shell a little bit). But i'm believeing that a lot less now. After deep discussions with a good friend, i'm starting to believe it is actually HURTING my interactions with women (I didn't develop the confidence that other guys do with success.. plus all the pent-up energy and such..and being almost 30 there's a LOT pent-up :P), and it's more of a negative than a positive *shrug* So I guess i'm wondering, would SPs avoid a virgin? Is there any good advice approaching an SP about this? Is it that uncommon?

I feel like I wouldn't like that doccumentary. Mainly cause its (as usual) sympathetic to single women. Single men on the other hand? Are flawed and lazy and probably porn-addicts..... Being single and male sucks major... ESP when u lack and bankroll and looks that are the near-exclusive criteria to even get a girls attention Posted via Mobile Device

ah come on.....*sad face* Pwwweease? ;)

Boy is this ever true...Financial Advising/Planning is similar...

You forgot the new hockey team soleil :p Posted via Mobile Device

I remember my pre-cerb days well.... Hockey players weren't dropping from the sky, the ndp had a leader :( what a sucky month... Illness an encounter to cheer me up ;) lol Posted via Mobile Device

600 may be tough in ont without a commute Posted via Mobile Device

And if Angel's involved, let me know too ;)

Book her and find out ;) Different ppl have different preferences and chemistry....so my experience with her might be different from yours

The SPs that lump all the moncton hobbyists together. That either don't answer or decline my requiests for appt's because 'Moncton guys usually no show' (even if i'm proposing travelling to their town. Both here and on another site). If that answers your question. I'll admit my frustration is getting in the way of being level-headed about this discussion, which i hoped would foster solutions. I apologize if i've come off as brusque or offended anyone here.

ell I am a consultant and a sub-contractor, so yes I can relate at least somewhat to their situation. However I also know there are ways to lessen the impact (actually some if the consulting I do is cost-efficiency). This isn't to say the onus should be on the SP, but neither the SP or the hobbyists can control the no-shows sadly.....we cam however work together to male sure neither of us suffers Paying in advance would be great....but problem is that leaves a paper trail in what is an industry that's cash-based for protection purposes. But it is an idea. Posted via Mobile Device

You raise an important point. A lot of hobbyists are all talk and no action in that they say 'come to my city', then don't book! I guess my query then (which probably could have been worded better from the get-go, since it seems to have caused confusion) is how do hobbyists become more pro-active? Pre-booking and incentivicing are great ideas...is there anything else? I understnad that the margains arent working, and obviously thats a problem. But i think the question we all can ask, and this goe to the very core of business 101, is 'how do we improve the margains?' and not 'NB is full o jerks and no-shows'

Fredericton doesn't have 'massage parlours' I'm afraid. The LE is really vigiliant about that around here :( contact Sophia varoushka though. She's in Fredericton and I'm told she's the best (she's also a sweetheart too). Samantha sexton is also based in Fredericton. I dunno I she's on cerb or much about her but she's a hottie and does massage. Might be worth a search Posted via Mobile Device

First of all, let's not misrepresent me. I did NOT say that anybodys rates are too high!! If u interpreted it that way then maybe u were looking to pick a fight, looking fir a red herring to latch to, I dunno I merely addressed that the economic landscape is different in different parts of the country, ad that it is more of a sacrifice for an NB hobbyist to see an SP than soneoen in an affluent area. And that being said, it frustrates me that the guys like me who are willing to make that effort (a price which is WELL deserves I might point out, I've mentioned many tines before on the quality of CERB ladies get lumped in with the bad eggs and NB seems like almost a chore for most SPs, who only focus on te negative (not just Emily, there were many in that thread and others I've heard in passing). Doesn't make a guy feel really wanted. My original q was what factors into a touring decision, and was hoping it would give me constructive ideas on how to get more SPs to nb. Focusing on the negatives doesn't solve the problem... :( Posted via Mobile Device

I've read that thread. Frankly it makes me not want to bother being a hobbyist. I know it's pocket money in a place like Toronto or Ottawa, but 300-400 is a significant amount in the Martitimes. Why bother blowing a weeks pay on an SP visit if i'm just going to get lumped in with the 'bad apples' in the area? Whats a guy to do?

interesting. I always thought that was a cute gesture :confused0024:

Question for SPs: what makes you (or would make u) decide to visit a certain city? # of clients, personal preference, etc.... I'll admit, beside being curious, my alterior motive is to try and get more SPs to visit NB ;) Posted via Mobile Device

Project for this weekend....track down angel Starr and get her some raspberry cheesecake ice cream ;) Posted via Mobile Device

I've been to a couple. It's awesome. Still tho, while I don't see singleness as deficient. I have no desire to remain single. I want a family too much and all that good stuff. I just can't find it (or don't know how) Posted via Mobile Device

I second this. I ha ven't had the pleasure of meeting Angel in-person yet (Though she is top on my list!) but she is a sweetheart. And Katherine is great for a first-timer (hint, the bodyslide will win you over :P) NB is ironic in that there are very few SPs, but the ones that are here seem to be AMAZING (I've seen Sophia's photo sets too and she piques my interest, so to speak ;) )

I'm about half-way between IslandIndependent and roamingguy on this. It is indeed a mutually beneficial encounter, but the core of that benefit is the woman is getting money and the guy is getting sex. Like it or not, It is what it is. Does that mean the women should just be 'a means to get off'? Not necessarily. I know for me personally i wouldn't enjoy myself unless the women is enjoying herself (in fact i might even be more concerned of her happiness than mine, but that's just my personality). Some ppl may pay the premium to see an SP (as opposed to 'getting it for free' at home/the bar) to have it their way, and i cant fault them for that (though it should NEVER be 100% about the guy). I see it more as watching an NHL game (getting an SP) vs watching your local peewee team (picking up). You pay for quality. The market will dictate this. Those hobbyists who are just 'looking to get off' (excuse my vulgarity) will find either a dwindling market or will pay a premium (as fewer SPs will go into that sorta thing) for it, and those SPs who want a mutually satisfying experience will have plenty of clientele for that too. That's part fo the beauty of this industry...since hobbyists can pick their SP AND SPs can pick their hobbyists, its fair for everyone

Mormon shoulda totally been a category :p Posted via Mobile Device

This thread has been very helpful :) I'm glad I'm notthe only newb with questions lol tho the best way to learn is thru experence ;) Posted via Mobile Device

A blonde Angel? Yum..... Tht might be hard to resist. Just don't become redhead Angel or I might not be able to contain myself lol Posted via Mobile Device

I'm learning as much as I can here, I've been thinking lately though about how much time a person should plan for for a good session with an SP Obviously the longer the better, but is there such a thing as too little time? I see some SPs advertising as little as 15 minute sessions. That seems really short! Would a 15 or 30 min appointment be worth it? (I mean, as a hobbyist you could indulge more often, but it seems like that would be rushed and you'd be better off saving up for longer sessions. And do SPs actually enjoy short sessions, or do they only offer it to meet demand?) Wondering some thoughts from others on this. Thanks in advance for your knowledge