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Respectfully, I don't think we'll agree and that's ok. CERB is probably not for me. My premise in a nutshell: Animals are property, the law never envisioned animals "to have rights". These laws in Canada are just trying to regulate private sexual practices. The law has no business in doing that. Moreover, we don't know what goes on in other species heads. And the B.C. court system is already so inundated with serious cases that it is letting real criminals walk. http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/story/2012/02/15/bc-cases-thrown-out-court-delays.html The movie "Project Nim" explores what happens when humans start projecting themselves on other species.

Since this thread has not died, I'll put in the last comment. I was hoping that an honest discussion can be had respecting a diversity of opinions. I have stated my position earlier, I am not advocating any illegal practice, just questioning the intent of the law. I think it's a valid argument. I don't encourage nor discourage the practice. That said, since my opinions offend, I have no problem in logging off and realizing that CERB is not for me.

The state euthanizes thousands of dogs every year and sometimes without the owner's knowledge and nobody cares. Somebody videotapes sex with his dog, and, all of a sudden, we're talking about children and dead bodies. Children can't consent to sex with adults and, most humans would want their dead body to be treated with respect. As for the question of how to know if the dog is consenting, the videotape should show if he's growling or fighting off his owner. The sexual practices of dogs are very different from humans. Most dogs would probably look at us and wonder why we're making such a big deal about sex. They hump each other (and other species) regularly and without shame. I doubt very much that the laws against bestiality have anything to do with preventing animal cruelty, and a lot more to do with imposing/prohibiting sexual practices.

Although I empathize with the women who are trapped, abused and assaulted into the sex-trade, I find that the report blurs the lines between legitimate prostitution and human trafficking. A dubious statistic claiming that "according to an International Study almost 90% of women are there against their will" is hurled at the viewer with no explanation. What international study? And what is meant by "are there"?

No, not joking at all. Just wondering if anybody has asked how the dog may feel about it. If the dog likes it, where's the problem? I think the pbm here, is the state legislating a sexual practice that is not the norm. Not too long ago, it was doing the same with anal-sex.

Maybe the acts are consensual! If the dog likes the sex he is having with his owner, why bring this to trial? I thought the B.-C. court system was already inundated with cases...

Richi e Poveri-MAMMA MARIA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWfxGdmY1h8&feature=related Who can't love this? it's Italian!

I did not take it personally as well... That said, in contrast to the OP's warning, the few encounters I have had over the years with SP's have deeply enriched my life. And this very much to my surprise and, as someone who is in long-term committed relationship. It's not what happens in life, it's what one does with it that brings happiness.

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Maybe stereotypes are slowly changing. If a national scientific survey were to ask the following: You are requested on an emergency and need to leave your children for a couple of hours. You have the choice of leaving them with -A catholic priest; -A male boy-scout leader; -An independent gay male escort; -Or an admitted hobbyist. I wonder which choice would garnish the most votes?

I know, I know. But some of us (me included) have secret fantasies of one day becoming a porn-star. I say this in all seriousness. In the end, I would not worry though, the perfect penis size ends up being the projected ideals of the people marketing that penis enlarger.

Charlie Puth & Emilie Luther -- Someone Like You http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ktm6ouZS-s

I think the marginal and forbidden aspect of "the Biz" is part of its allure. Yes, most people in North-America are critical and express pity, but also at the same time, fascinated with a hint of admiration. It's somewhat of a paradox!

Why? I have seen tons of "this is my last post because..." messages on here. We are social beings and posting that last message may have helped him put a period on this lifestyle and move on. He's not speaking to all of us, just trying to reach to the people like him for whom this lifestyle can have negative effects. Plus, what's wrong with "go hug your wife". She is after-all the most important person in some of our lives.

Yanni - Reflections of Passion