Rory

Hmm. Very interesting to read all these posts, and thank you to Berlin. I like to go at it hard sometimes, like most men, but not with an unwilling participant. If a woman says it hurts, it hurts--I wouldn't say that's whining. Doesn't it also depend on where women are in their cycle? I used to see a woman who said she was fine with harder sex after her period, but not before, when her whole body was more sensitive. That's just a reality that perhaps clients don't want to think about. And if we're complaining about women dropping their clothes too fast to get us in and out, well; we won't go back there will we? rory.