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JohnnyJ1981 started following Asian Vee aka Vanessa amazing MA!, Looking for GFE, Dark tantra and and 7 others
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Hello to all, Its been a while and here looking for some insight and maybe a recommendation. Usually, im a MA type client, but I'm looking for more. The first thing above all that I'm looking for is personnality, which is very subjective I know. I'm not in the best of head space lately so I'm looking for super bubbly type lady. Someone who can get me out of my shell I guess. i prefer petite, fit, preference for a balance and proportionate body assets (not a fan of large breasts or butts). A nice smile and a good kisser and big bonus. Ideally, is love a long diner and play engagement, but realistically, that not in my cards right now, so an hour or two will have to do. Massage skills are a plus because as as much as I hate to admit to it, things are usually over fast then I would prefer or enjoy. 420 friendly + but not a deal breaker. Thanks to all, feel free to PM me.
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Carefully I believe she is on the DNR list.
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What can I say but WOW, I was going for a week and the thread exploded. Obviously for the better as it generated solid debate. Since I seem to has started this whole issue, perhaps I can try to provide some closure. The views here are so narrow minded its like a left-wing politician try a to convince a right-wing supporter to change there views of politics! I will concede that that some ladies made some valuable arguments. But I think the whole thing went off rails when we started talking about rape, for my specific case. I clearly agree, that in the case of Jackie, when a lady say she doesn't do anal play and the guys goes for it anyways, that's just wrong. I fully support that point of view. More so, attempting to do so again deserves nothing then a strong kick in the balls. But that is COMPLETELY different than what I said. In my case, my intention were clearly stated during the booking PRIOR to me taken any action. I doubled check my initial post and I quote myself: "In the past I've communicated that I would like to pleasure her". As in there was clear verbal intention of my actions. If a hobbyist says: I would like this service. And the MA replies: Sure for this donation. How on earth is that rape? By that logic, pending a lady's mood that day ALL hobbyist are rapists and all MA/SP are guilty of leading a customer to believe he can get a service when she clearly has no intention of wanting to provide the service. Might as well be a bait-and-switch. All the comments that all the ladies have made are valid under the pretence that the customer didn't express his interest for facesitting PRIOR to booking/or before performing any given action. So many of my comments were taken out of that context, often in poor taste, where intention are clearly stated PRIOR. Looking at the initial post...It was simply a post of wanting to find an MA who provides, as in INCLUDED, facesitting. Many pointed out to fact where I said "it backfired on me". I shall address that. Yes, the lady asked me to stop and I did so immediately. Initially I felt bad because the last thing I'd want to do would be to put a lady in a position where she actually has to say "stop". Other than looking like a complete asshole, its a mood killer. But a couples of moments later, I was thought to myself: why should I feel bad when I disclosed that I would like that service and the service is not being delivered? Truth of the fact is that I have met many of the ladies here who debated here, most of them more then once or twice. And oh it is ever tempting to "kiss and tell" right about now... To me it all boils to two things: 1- Communication prior to the booking 2- The lady needs to express that she doesn't allow the service Otherwise, its not rape, it false advertisement. Period. The only difference is one gets you in jail the other doesn't. I'd never thought I say this, but it really make wonder who bears the true risk.
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There fact that you raise an issue then dismiss it abruptly shows a total lack of willingness for open discussion, cohesive argumentation and maturity. If your going to poke the bear, you should be willing to stand and face the music. You make the assumptions that the ladies i choose "need the money". Not all ladies are here for the long run. Many young vibrant smart ladies engage in this line of work to better them self. To pay off school and start a career with no debt. I can only know what is communicated to me. There are MA in Ottawa, MTL and TO whose base rate are higher than average the SP. On this board, most of the ladies who do speak their voice, are not afraid to say "no" or simply state a request is an extra. This is an industry. A place of competition, of offer and demand. As with any product or service, different competitors offer different products/service at different price ranges. In your eyes, pershaps MA shouldn't offer SP service. Why should your prerogative of the services she is allowed to offer be restricted to what you deem acceptable? Why would a hybrid service be not allowed? Who are you to judge competition? There are no real written code of conducts here. Rather we rely on respect, communication and trust, especially during the first encounter. You claim my actions are the result of "male entitlement" and "rape culture". Interesting choice of words. I agree, that after the terms and conditions of a mutually agreed upon contract have been reached and that financial compensation for such service has been rendered, I feel entitled to the services and they should be delivered as mutually agreed. Again, for clarity, this whole argument lies on basis on full disclosure prior to the session where the ladies can say she is OK with it, deny the request or provide the service for an up charge. To request simply act or to assume a service is include without asking prior would be 100% wrong. As for insinuating that such action is due to a "culture of rape". I can't read a ladies mind, but I can respect her wishes. I don't see how it can be rape when a person express there interest for a service PRIOR and the ladies express her consent. Some ladies welcome reverse massage and some don't. Some offer full nude, some don't. There is an infinite range of offering, primarily based on the ladies comfort level. It is clear that we will only agree to disagree. I treat each encounter as I would in the real business world. Clearly state all my requirements, search for the vendor that offers me the best value (note I said value and not price!) and execute within the negotiated parameters of the contract.
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Well I apologize if I offended anyone. In my personal opinion, if a lady performing a body slide has her lady parts on all the way on my face and lips, i've always taken it as an invitation especially if I told her I like that. Honestly, it only backfired on me once so far. I would 100% agree with Parker and Katherine if I didn't discuss it PRIOR with the MA. The only reason I'm sticking to my guns is because if I fully disclosed it at when booking the session, why should I feel bad. There are countless posts on here where the ladies say "Guys be explicit with your intention and what you want" I do exactly that. There have been times we the lady said during the booking "no" so i wouldn't even dream of tempting my luck. If she wants to up charge me, she is most welcome to do so. But i'm not going to feel guilty if I say "I like this" during the booking and she's OK with it. For clarity, I treat all ladies with the up most respect. I've never had to push an issues in person, as I've learnt it best to be crystal clear during booking so that there is no awkward moment in person.
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i see your point. In all fairness, i simple state it something i'm open to. I would never just try to perform it without advance warning in communications before the massage. i never state that it has to happen. I offer to massage (with hands) the lady regularly and if she leads me to it, I go, if not, I'm not offended. Perhaps its more a YMMV issue. I enjoy kissing, and I state before that I enjoy it...just matter of perspective on which set of lips I want to kiss! Quite frankly, there are also some MA that take bodyslide so far, that one has to wonder if thats not what she is asking for.
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To be honest, most of the MA i have seen have let me tasted their southern regions, not necessary in facesitting position thought. In the past I've communicated that I would like to pleasure her and clearly state that I am not expecting anymore then massage in return, most are open to being pleased. Personnally, I like reverse facesitting for the end, so I can please her as she please me!
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I too am looking for the same.
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Giving a Reverse Massage to the Woman
JohnnyJ1981 replied to someguy's topic in Ottawa Discussion - Massage
I love massaging a nice body, especially if the personality and chemistry is there. However, I won't lie, there always "comes" a moment where I get uncomfortable as when my hand start gravitating towards her "nerthlands" I have an urge to make her feel extasy, but I'm shy on asking if I can massage her "her little" friend, either with my hands or with my tongue and lips, ideally both and make her feel extra good! I mean seriously, I find that a nice head massage always puts a girl in state of nirvana, then the colar bone, than around the breasts to alert them of what's coming, etc. I could go on, but we all know it's "not the size of your hands, but how you use your hands!" That counts! -
Kissing is a MAJOR turn on for me when the chemistry is there! I make my heart pound and my "junior" extra stiff. Then I don't want a massage anymore...I want what my raw animal instincts are telling me to do at a genetic level...in essence ensuring the survival of the human race!
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Not necessarily a bad idea, but I would remove the idea of them "bidding" on you. I do like the idea of clearly stating what you want, and the lady could simply send you a link to her webpage or something. I could see this working for fetish particularly. Your idea suggest the balançe of quality price, choosing a lady is purely subjective. If a lady has to lower her rate to see you...that is a bad start to the session right of the bat. If you want a lady to go "the extra mile" bring her a little chocolate, a rose, wine, compliment her hair, soft skin or smile. Make her laugh and feel comfortable! In essence treat her like a lady and not like a corporate business deal!
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I'm typically a big MA fan, but every now and then, a little more is what I would really need. I can't say I've been particularly please with what I've experience so far. Not that is was bad, i guess the chemistry simply wasn't there. What I would be looking for would be someone with a great personality, easy to talk to, down to earth and can handle someone who, as much as i hate to admit it, gets pretty nervous :-(. And a great kisser. Physically, I prefer petite frame woman, I myself am 5'7". ideally brunette, but not a deal breaker. A cute face is important, call me old fashion, but if i don't like above the neck, i simply won't like the rest. I like it when thing are natural, firm & perky. I'm not looking to taking her on a trip to Greece. But when do travel to the south, i prefer white sandy beaches where the bushes are trimmed neatly, beaches that are bare are nice, but a little vegetation is always better! Also prefer nice organic oranges to GMO melons or watermelons. I do have a fetish. The mast on my boat doesn't require any breezing to make it float, I much prefer to have it manual oiled, then she can gloat about not having to use her throat! But most of all a killer smile, and great personality is what I'm looking for most.
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Giving a Reverse Massage to the Woman
JohnnyJ1981 replied to someguy's topic in Ottawa Discussion - Massage
The think I always wonder and very shy to ask a MA, if how far can my hands or my "kisses" can go. If leave happy, so should she!