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Well then it would seem that people with a circle (even a private one) are always going to be able to see each other which is exactly what you don't want. Or so says the pleasant lady right at the start of this video tutorial on making private circles. And yeah, I'd have to say that people adding you aren't aware that you're going to place them in the same circle as other clients (or have a private circle for every private contact, which doesn't seem very manageable) and then they all get to see each other in the same circle which is very bad on many levels. I had an SP send me a FarceBook friends request and as my friends list is private, no problemo, until she indiscreetly posted on my wall then I had to block her :( Yeah, maybe I could mangle the permissions so she couldn't post on my wall but then there are too many other ways to leak in so just too much trouble.

Well that was Google+'s big attempted selling point is to be able to keep different circles of friends different and have more control over privacy than you can have with FarceBook and they have done it. That said, when you have that many knobs, switches and dials to manage mistakes can happen. While it sounds great in theory, human error (or just simple lack of understanding) can lead to disaster. As the good folks of this industry pride themselves on discretion, I wouldn't be willing to mix my personal contacts and business contacts on the same social networking account and when you have multiple Google accounts I find things get messy (e.g. I have a business Google Apps hosted domain but if I try to use a simple Gmail account it seems stuff bleeds over so I just stick with my real email and it makes it simpler for me as I never try to hide my identity anyways). Maybe the best approach is two accounts and open the second one in a private browsing mode (Chrome Incognito) but every browser seems to have this feature these days which keep history, cache and cookies separate and in effect makes it like you are using a separate computer in that window only.

Agreed, sorry, wasn't meant to propagate the stereotype at all. I guess while we all agree that exploitation continues to exist at some level in this industry, it is difficult for me to imagine that those super stars like the very respected and highly reputable ladies of CERB could be easily associated with this. They spend much of their days creating the most pleasant of in-call locations and providing not 5 star but rather 10 star levels of service and professionalism on so many levels. A "reasonable assumption" then is that such dedication, professionalism, and superior level of service can only be accomplished if their heart is really in it but of course there will always be exceptions or things that appear to be what they are not. I also agree with your point about a paid companion being a better choice for this but the relationship hazards still do exist in this circumstance, unless of course two of the three people in the room are paid companions :) and even then but just in a different way.

Well I can only offer perhaps a helpful observation: The ratio of male SPs vs. female SPs seems oddly lopsided to an extreme. As women become more career minded and don't have time for romantic hassles and attitudes slowly change one would expect this to change along with it, in the mean time whatever demand there is for this out there (and I'm sure there is "some") can't be adequately served by the available numbers so it could be highly lucrative depending on a great number of factors.

While I recognize that for many ladies the requirements of being independent are more than they can or are willing to manage I have always felt that some agencies take more than their fair share without doing enough in return for both the ladies that work for them or their clients. A "disreputable agency" needs to go and in fact will not survive in the long term against competition from more reputable agencies. Of course if the agency is using bait and switch and it is exposed, that should help them on their way to oblivion quite nicely.

Well if the "agency" knows CK is on to them then (and has the goods on them) they should back off pretty quick unless they are crazy. His diary packs a punch, way more heat than they need. We've seen people try to stand against the truth before, didn't work out so well for them.

Well if you can't "prove" it then there might not be much of a legal remedy. But way worse for the agency is the bad PR, I'd forward the details on to the Cowboy, he is just about as smart as a rocket scientist and should be able to figure it out and they will quickly cry uncle if he does. http://www.cowboysdiary.info/

Wow Christine but did you see the comments below the video? Maybe he does deserve a metal but it seems the world wants to sue him for letting her fall out of the harness in the first place :) However, as you are a expert in this matter I will have to agree with you, nice save! If she had gotten clear of the harness and him with the chute open, well, their is just no catching up with her before the ground does. "para-sailing" is quite different than "para-jetting" although they do use it as a training aid (you para-sail first behind a vehicle) but the beauty of para-jetting is not being towed or having to go anywhere in particular, it's total freedom to fly up down, left, right and go anywhere you want to go, just like a bird!

Well I know JoyfulC is a big fan of jumping out of a perfectly good aircraft with a parachute (and hope it works), but while in Cyprus recently I took a different approach: making sure the parachute works before you get off the ground (in fact you won't get airborne otherwise). Takes a week of training before you get to do it but worth the effort and just about as close to that feeling of flying like a tetrapod vertebrate as us humans can get. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_profilepage&v=7iwzldp8mHw It's also a commonly available and relatively inexpensive sport compared to the more elusive Jet Pack :) Highly recommended for anyone daring enough to strap an engine on their back and take to the skies!

One lady I know will arrive for an appointment a few minutes early (and let you know she will). She then re-records her voice mail greeting (many times a day), "Hi, this is so-and-so, it's Friday, May 25th and thanks for calling. I'll be checking my voice mail again at 5 PM today so if you leave me a message I'll be returning your call between 5 and 5:15 PM, again thanks for calling and have a great day", otherwise she answers! She does this religiously before every appointment so if it goes to voice mail you know exactly when she will be calling back, what a great little business lady, bet it's rare she ever misses an opportunity. I like Emily's email auto responder also as that lets you know when to expect a reply. Whatever you want to call it, it's a business and people are way more patient if they know when you can get back to them and if that works for their schedule also.

It's been my experience that this already has been going on "quietly" for some time. Almost a year ago I was departing Toronto (Lester B. Pearson, YYZ) on an international flight and the inbound aircraft was seized by the US department of Homeland Security. I well recognize their uniforms but I had to do a "double take" and "remember" I was still in Canada (it wasn't a flight arriving from or departing to the US by the way, but did fly though US air space on both arrival and departure). I found it disturbing as there was at least 10 of them and they did not appear to be assisted at all by Canadian authorities and my outbound flight was delayed some 12 hours before they decided to release the aircraft. The flight crew apologized for the delay but offered no explanation. Still no idea what it was all about but there were no Canadian authorities to be seen, just US Homeland Security Officers.

I agree completely. So unlikely anyone will try that again and if they ever dare do, we know what reaction it will invoke.

I think it's a great idea but I don't know how it could be implemented properly. I don't think anything on someone's publicly viewable profile is appropriate including the "Friends list as a reference list" usage. If I understand ahead of time that a lady uses her friends list only for references then quite frankly I am likely not to see her or at least not accept her friends request. A publicly viewable list of her all her good clients has to be bad on multiple levels. I think a public directory that would be created by the common adoption of such a thing would be a privacy issue as it's nobody's business what ladies I choose to meet including the ladies I choose to meet except in the case of reference(s) I gladly offer if asked for. But even then I get to choose who to use as a reference. We already give up enough information of who has met who in writing recommendations which is clearly one of the reasons I don't write more of them. Additional comments: Just to clarify the privacy problem, consider the case of a lady in Toronto I have seen some 40 times. I have developed a valued "professional" friendship (and probably put her kids through college) and then for whatever reason (there are many) I choose to visit someone else on this trip (and use a reference from lady in another city to avoid just this problem) and she by what ever means finds out that I saw someone else in Toronto (as they are now recommending me as a great client) and I get an "I'm hurt, why didn't you call me if you were in town?" kind of message. As far as I'm concerned, absolute discretion is part of the arrangement. This kind of situation has already occurred (because the ladies were friends and talked to each other about me when they shouldn't have, IMHO) :)

Does anyone know when this "temporary exhibit" is over? I did try to determine this but I can only find it started May 17th but no end date. While I would not make a trip to the Canada Science and Technology Museum to see this exhibit specifically I am curious to know if it will still be there in a little less than a month's time when as luck will have it I will be "relaxing" in Ottawa and often do the museum thing during such recharge intervals.

I like Katherine. She is simply amazing and we are so lucky to have her here on the east coast, she is a true gem and very unique (in a good way). As for the truly top notch ladies on CERB she is definitely one of them and sets the bar very high.

Well if it provides you any comfort, I'm not young and probably the complete opposite of you in many ways. That said, I am envious of your youth and inexperience; oh what I wouldn't give to be able to discover and learn it all over again, what a wonderful journey you can have ahead of you with the right attitude. There is really only two things you need to do. Find a nice SP and communicate your true desires which even if you are shy and socially anxious should not be too much of a problem, especially via email or PMs and make an appointment. In fact I know that won't be a problem as you just told the world so you should easily be able to tell that to a nice SP via private messages or email and a bit more. When you find someone you seem to connect with, the only other hurdle is actually showing up in person. While I'm counting the days, hours and minutes and can't wait I fully understand the anxiety some experience. If she has a good reputation then pre-paying can take some of the anxiety out of it but this may be the most difficult part is to actually take the leap of faith and show up in person. Once you've accomplished that, you can just relax and enjoy as you'll be in good hands with any reputable CERB lady. Although I haven't had the supreme pleasure of meeting her in person, from what has been reported Peachy seems very good with newbies :) I was touched reading some of her recommendations, have a look.

Actually there is quite a difference. That would be way more more dangerous. No offense intended to those that might enjoy this or the ladies that openly advertise it but I'll never get it (greek). That area is simply not designed for that purpose and injury is a high risk, my understanding (not from experience nor do I desire any) is that it takes the utmost care an attention to avoid injury. Even when condoms are used for this there is a much higher failure rate (or so it says on the packaging). I did see some value in the 3rd world were this is used as a method of birth control in a monogamous relationship were no other method of birth control is available. It certainly seems from what I have read on the subject as the absolute best way to transmit STDs available short of using an IV syringe to do the job.

Oh wow that is a challenging question as there are so many "things" that stand out in different ways. As I reflect on my experiences it is so hard to put one above another as they are all different but yet somehow all the most wonderful and incredible people I have ever had the pleasure to meet in so many different ways. Was it the genuine marriage proposal (after spending several weeks with her) that persists to this day that stands out in my mind? :) Not helpful to you, I know. Was it the lady who in each others company we were both enjoying so much we lost track of time and she asked me to stay late after school so she could have her way with me? Was it the incredible lap dance? Was it the lady who told me just what buttons she likes to have pushed (everyone is different) so I didn't have to discover this? Was it incredible skills (beyond imagination) like you rarely ever encounter? Hem, maybe it was the uninhibited lady that said "I know we are enjoying each others company and I am really enjoying yours. Perhaps we will just talk for the remainder of our time, that's up to you of course but I hope you won't be offended I am nude for the next couple of hours", the conversation continued for some time but that was fun! There are some other really strange (but nice kind of strange) experiences that also stand out but they would require a lot of explanation or background not to be taken out of context. They all give so much and ask so little in return. I suppose the most memorable are the best and that always seems to come from ladies that truly enjoy their work or perhaps more precisely the ones that don't see it as work at all but rather genuine fun. I suppose when I leave an encounter feeling like it was a genuine, intimate encounter between two people, well hard to top that and the challenge in giving you a good answer is that I haven't left an intimate encounter without that feeling as it just doesn't seem to go that way with me unless this is true. So I guess if I had to summarize, I'd have to say that the non-SP, SP is truly the best :) GFE is an over-simplification. Maybe uninhibited GFE with genuine interest but that still doesn't do it justice.

Exactly, there are a great number of reasons there may be many recommendations or hardly any. For instance, cat has a truly extraordinary reputation but if I was to visit with her I would only write a recommendation if she mentioned she would like me to, and then I would first route the content of it through her for her approval before posting it, so the fact that there are no new recommendations in four years is in and of itself a recommendation that she doesn't need any more recommendations. In this case her participation in the discussions and presence here on CERB speaks volumes. Each case is different, a new provider with the glowing recommendations building up is also impressive. My approach, in the absence of sufficient empirical data (and in general always when not otherwise impractical) is an introductory luncheon, not only is it a great break from an otherwise boring day to have a fun lunch with a beautiful lady but I leave such a lunch just knowing exactly how well we'll get along in the future. In fact if it is someone you haven't met before a lunch at a public restaurant always results in a better encounter later. Helpful to both as we are no longer complete strangers. So I have such a lunch and then wait for the lady to express interest in seeing me again, for me, there has to be mutual interest or it just wouldn't be any fun at all.

Well there is a point yet to be made here and then I think everyone has done a great job of covering the subject. I re-read the whole thread and saw these words (small sample) "Dangerous, stupid, incomprehensible, crazy risk, extremely disturbing" but it's the remark about the otherwise "safe environment" I have to comment on. CFS is not safe, it's just less riskier. If you knew as a matter of "fact" that your partner had AIDS (or lets be less dramatic and say genital herpes) and you know this to be true, would you consider a condom adequate protection? I know I wouldn't. As clients or SPs and consenting adults were are accepting a certain level of risk as acceptable but let there be no doubt there is still a risk. Just as any SP offering BBBJ is at risk of offering CIM even if they don't plan to (by extension - surprise), any SP offering CFS is subject to it becoming BBFS by surprise. Personally I have experienced two different types of malfunctions and thankfully many years ago now. One is like a balloon, poof no more condom (that matters) and the other type of failure is not as pronounced or immediately noticeable, but condoms absolutely do fail and even when they don't there is still a risk. Of course it is "Dangerous, stupid, incomprehensible, crazy risk, extremely disturbing" to intentionally take more risk than you must but my point is that CFS can become BBFS very suddenly and quite unexpectedly and you clearly have to consider that an acceptable risk and realize that you are taking that risk so I wouldn't call it otherwise "safe", just less risk and therefore a sensible precaution.

All of Europe is like taking a trip through the Stargate compared to the attitudes, perception and even reality here in North America. Of course in so many other ways, it is no different than here, hmmm...

Well I have read of disapproving of someones post and thereby decreasing their reputation but that ability seems to have been removed at some point. I find having to give reputation to be able to comment is sometimes not appropriate as the poster is pretty far afield and people commenting are just adding to their reputation. I also like adding to someone's reputation when it is deserved. While I think negative comments that reduce reputation are undesirable, it would be nice to be able to comment when you don't agree with they say but be neutral (as opposed to negative).

Eeek, here in Canada you say. Sadly this is very much commonly available for very small extra fee in one of the countries I choose to spend a lot of time in. The result is that I dare not have anything to do with any of the ladies in this country, ever, under any circumstances and never have to spite their incredible beauty. The result as you can imagine is that were this is available also is every STD commonly available at no extra charge. To me this is clearly one of the darkest aspects of this business and I truly hope it is very unavailable here. Fortunately we tend to have the attitude that seeing a "professional" CERB lady is safer than any random encounter with a stranger. Interestingly, even in a monogamous relationship (e.g. wife back when it was possible) I have always preferred a condom. I find it doesn't diminish the experience in any way (for me).

My favorite button is "preview" as it lets you see how your message (quotes from others and all) is going to look without actually posting it.

Given that there have been several cases in the news (and courts) of mental defect (I don't know what else to call it) where the man intentionally compromises a condom with a needle hole because be wants to leave as many children in the world as he can, I would think that BYOC would be frowned upon?