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I going to go with "calculated mistake" (and my marketing department agrees) although one of them concedes it could have been a "lucky mistake". The stonchy politician Danielle Smith and political party persona aside, a shame the domain name wildrose.ca is now taken, would have made a great brand for an SP - "see wild rose for a wild ride" :) Still could for an SP with a similar appearance (e.g. wildrose.com which is semi available BTW, it's for sale) who would be daring enough to capitalize on this.

Thanks Victoria! I have taken a little flack in other threads against some of my more progressive policies (100% reimbursement if I have to cancel less than 72 hours before -- but if you could afford to visit the lady then you can afford to do this when YOU are the one that has to cancel, etc.). I so hate to put it this way (as there is so much more to it) but the development of good "supplier relationships" can't be under stated in general business. In this business in particular, the development of trusted "professional" friendships is critical. Yes and the last two ladies I have met would be able to attest that I sent them a very clear photo portrait such that they could recognize me at a great distance before meeting. I can only imagine that it must be hard for the lady starting around T minus 5 or 10 minutes before a meeting and not knowing who is going to show up or having any idea what they even look like. Other more progressive attitudes are producing my driver's license or passport for her inspection at the very start of any private meeting - the more relaxed and comfortable she is around me the better the experience for both of us. So ladies, always guarantee the utmost discretion and privacy in your ad and also offer introductory luncheon dates, works so much better than a blind date.

I can't just comment on this post because there will be a smiley face and this doesn't make me want to smile. My sincerest condolences Meg. I'm sure she had a good life with a very good home with you.

An extremely pleasant introductory luncheon with a very intriguing, interesting and beautiful lady.

This chart can help you assess the risks and decide what activities are too risky for your personal tolerance or level of comfort. http://healthnurse.wordpress.com/faq-about-sexual-health/sti-risks-chart/ I do have to point out that I personally feel safer with a "professional" lady and most do have great respect and care for any fear you might have about this. I travel a LOT (used to travel even more) and have no fear of flying, but I am always amazed at how well the flight attendants take that extra care, compassion and see to every possible comfort for someone that is very nervous about flying and sensible enough to tell the flight attendant this before takeoff. I'm guessing most all CERB ladies would react in a similarly positive way if you tactfully discussed the subject and your concerns. By tactfully I mean you should make them aware of your concern for this but please be careful to make it clear that this is not directed as concern specifically about them or if they were tested recently, etc. which would be very inappropriate. As long as you make it clear you are not referring to them specifically you should get a positive reaction. And at the very least, tell them you are a newbie and let them show you the way :)

So true. There are a host of these kind of services... as CERB does not have a trusted SSL certificate your session is otherwise travelling in the clear. This is particularly a problem on an open Wifi network like you find at most hotels. I always use http://strongvpn.com/ when using an open WiFi network at a hotel or restaurant. Note that if you don't, anyone in range can capture your login credentials to CERB (yes, the password is transmitted as an MD5 hash but it's trivial to turn it back into the real password) as well as email or any other passwords that fly by and even if we don't bother doing that (decoding the password), we'd still see your CERB handle in the clear and what you were reading and writing (including PMs). The poor mans choice or the "in a pinch" solution is to access CERB via https as opposed to http. It's a self signed certificate so you'll get a warning from your browser that the site's certificate is not trusted but at least your CERB handle and the rest of your session will be encrypted. So in this case someone monitoring on the WiFi network will know you accessed CERB but nothing more than that. With a VPN tunnel they don't even know that much. So please, especially on a WiFi network, use: https://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/index.php The Tor network is too slow and many evil people set up exit nodes just so they can do this kind of evil monitoring when your traffic does hit the Internet in the clear (through their exit node). I'd really recommend avoiding Tor. It is more useful for a journalist that is trying to do research and access sites otherwise blocked by a Government (like they do in China). Just in case you were wondering, yes, Bill C-30 lawful access (or whatever it called this hour) is completely laid to waste and useless by VPN services like the one I mentioned. They only will be able to catch dumb people... Ah, that's it! Discrimination! A Charter challenge -- The bill can only be used to catch dumb people and is therefore discrimination, perfect!

Well, this certainly has been an interesting thread. Some of it quite a puzzler to me. I guess I ignored this thread completely as the title contained "question for the ladies" but now I see a lot of guys have given their point of view which I have all read and considered carefully (the ladies point of view also of course). I can't even see any benefit in a half hour appointment :) I could never imagine myself enjoying that. I think Roamingguy said it very well: Well said! I have either an enlightened view or a completely dumb one that the 10 - 15 seconds of intense pleasure matters not to me in the least. In fact, I revel in the ladies relaxation, conversation, and enjoyment and never ever worry about my own pleasure and sometimes I do feel so misunderstood. Perhaps the lady isn't in the mood (too many clients that day... who knows?.. only she knows for sure), well when I am sitting in a plane waiting and waiting for the pilot to take off and he doesn't because of some problem, invariably the person in the seat next to me has to complain and complain and eventually I politely say "If the pilot doesn't want to fly, I don't want to fly, do you?". Shuts them up every time without fail and without being too rude. That said, the ladies are pretty consistent to ensure that I don't end up leaving after 3 or 4 hours without a happy ending and the airlines do always eventually get me to my destination (sooner or later, even days later). Worrying about if I'll get there or not in the next couple of hours doesn't change the outcome. But as much as I only fly (a lot) to get where I must, I see a lady to see a lady and in this case just enjoy the flight. Always makes for a more pleasurable flight when you aren't in a hurry and much less stressful and the end result is always the same. So my dumb view is I never worry about this, if it happens it happens and if it doesn't it's not the primary reason I was there anyways. Hope that makes sense.

I agree completely, you limeys invented the English language so can't really be accused of having an accent. One part of the world I frequent has a lot of British tourists and the British ladies always tell me, "I just love your accent" and I tell them I just love how you speak perfect Oxford English whereas I don't :)

I can't say enough good things about Gmail. Particularly when we are checking our email from an insecure hotel network and Wifi is the worst. Use a POP3 account on a Wifi network and you are broadcasting your email address and password to everyone in range in the clear. I always chuckle when I see a sign outside a hotel that says 'Secure Wireless Internet", what an oxymoron - no such thing. Gmail has so many advantages, it's hard to list them all... those I really like is the two-factor authentication (Google Authenticator app on your smart phone), no more key stroke loggers capturing your password as it changes once a minute, and the fact that you can use Gmail with your own custom domain name and no one will know you are using Gmail at all. Obviously the ability to access your email from anywhere and the perfect, flawless Android, iPhone and even Blackberry (use IMAP and Google Sync here) connectivity with perfect sync of your inbox, calendar and contacts... like what more could you possibly want?

I really like the idea of Interac email money transfers (used it for this purpose before and works great) and wish more SPs would accept this or offer it as an option. For those that wish to remain anonymous, cash is the only way... myself, the first time I meet an SP in any kind of private setting I always produce my driver's license or passport for inspection. Discreet is part of the arrangement and it always makes the lady more comfortable. Another method is that if the lady is well acquainted with you and happens to bank at the same institution, you can set her up as a payee for instant transfers (no delay what-so-ever or service charges) but I wouldn't recommend either approach except in a "professional" relationship where there is complete and total trust, but then complete and total trust is kind of one of my requirements anyways, just not going to be that way the first time you meet. Additional Comments: One thing I find really disturbing about cash is holding it. I don't like carrying large quantities of cash and even worse I think about the safety of a touring lady if she hasn't gotten to the bank to make a deposit in a few days. Once, we were going out to grab a coffee and I suggested, you best stash that money somewhere and when I saw were she did I offered to drive her to the bank to make a deposit which was gladly accepted. I'd take cash out of the equation completely if I could and I'm pretty certain some day we will. One final point: No shows, like who cares if the money is electronically transferred up-front. No longer a problem or concern - perfect!

Ouch! I've been wondering when this would strike a CERB lady. So sorry to hear of this SexxxyRebecca, what a cowardly thing to do and to what end? Yeah, so there are a few services that allow people to fake caller id, probably shouldn't be allowed but I thought they only allowed faking the number and left the name blank (haven't tried them, no reason to, think they are dumb). Those aside, most modern business phone systems of any size allow not only the number but also the name to be set up. In the early days the phone companies would allow only numbers assigned to you (but any name) but this got to be too much work for them so now they let anything pass without question. While most people don't have access to such a system, lots of companies are very lackadaisical (lazy) about security which results in the occasional criminal being able to have access to this ability. When that happens the company or business is at fault but also a victim and may have thousands of lines so tracing such a call isn't necessarily easy at all. I always cringe a bit when I see a lady advertise "no blocked calls" as I know I could reprogram my phone system temporarily and call her from any name/number I desired. Fortunately I'm one of the good guys and call with my real name and number but it was only a matter of time I guess. Obviously not your fault SexxxyRebecca. 99.9% of the time the caller id is correct which makes it too easy to trust when you really can't. It used to be called a "myth" that you could really fake caller id (including the name as well as the number) but anyone that wants to PM me their number along with the name and number they would like to "appear" to call them and a good time to call, as long as they promise to come back here and post "OK, it's true", I'll do it to prove it if I have to. Can't trust your eyes when it comes to caller id anymore. Technology brings us so much both good and bad. I sit in my Ottawa hotel room and answer my office line from a couple thousand miles away over the hotel internet. I'll never forget the first time a friend called and said "Oh great, your home, I'm coming right over" -- "No, I'm in Ottawa a thousand miles away from home at this time (as I often am) and right now taking a walk up on Parliament Hill watching those huge squirrels :)

No worries porthos, the nice weather is headed your way, it all seems to move to west to east and I see on the weather radar that the snow as almost finished with you (for today). Quick question: Are they having summer on a Thursday (like last year) or will be be a different day of the week for summer in Newfoundland this year? :)

Ahhh. I for one like reading your posts Christy. I agree with what you are saying fully, when people have different opinions on a subject they do tend to get a little heated about it and email, PMs and posts especially because of the wider audience are more likely to be taken the wrong way by "someone" that reads it. Making a post is a little like public speaking to a large audience and if there are one or two hecklers and the rest of the audience is involved and interested in what you have to say, then let's just ignore them. But I don't let it bother me ever... I guess it really does bother me that Christy wouldn't feel free to pipe up and give her honest opinion when she has something to say because people might take it the wrong way. Both SPs and their clients look at each others posts to try to get a feel for the other person and I always get a good vibe from what you have to say dear! Just wanted you (and everyone else) to know that :)

Same here... so I'll report it and see if it is known to be not working. Was fine for me a day or two also but now refuses connection.

Back before I discovered CERB I did encounter a few ladies that won't, simply won't see a new client without a one hour, in person introductory luncheon at a suitable public restaurant first (and for a fee of course to cover their time). I mention this because you never see it here (well I did just once). Quite frankly I was kind of surprised when I discovered CERB and found that most ladies were willing to book a 4 or 5 hour private time appointment without ever having met me before. I thought this was an excellent way to make sure you are both compatible so I've kind of adopted it also (with some exceptions). So now if I'm considering seeing a lady I haven't before I might invite her to a nice lunch first. Note this isn't a "job interview" in any way, it's more a way to get to know the person and that there is some compatibility, synergy even energy and if you do then book a longer appointment you have a way better sense of who you will be seeing and spending some time with having already met them. It always worked very well in the past for me and for the lady also. If I'm going to invest in 4 or 5 hours of a ladies time, I think we all know most of it won't involve those private moments in time so she needs to be someone I'd really like to hang out with for a while. Works better for me than flying blind or on instruments alone (IFR versus VFR). Perhaps some ladies will consider offering this (most all do if you ask) but it could be at a slightly reduced rate for those on a budget and the lady gets a free meal (and they say there is no free lunch). Of course the meal never involved ducks :)

Welcome! So you didn't read the rules carefully enough, your not the first or the last to make this mistake so now that you said your sorry, GET OVER IT :) Ever say something without thinking? I think we all have at one time or another. Odd thing about email, PMs, and any kind of post here is they are text only and whereas so much communication is non-verbal anyways, a lot more is lost when you commit it to letters on a page and I think it takes some skill to be able to get complex thoughts across and be understood in all cases and sometimes no matter how hard you try, someone is going to take a post the wrong way. There is lots of interesting discussions here also on almost any topic imaginable, when people disagree with your point of view, wow they can really disagree. So what? Guess you have to have a little extra thick skin sometimes. I've had 3 or 4 responses to something I posted with people disagreeing with me (and a bunch of private messages agreeing and commending me for saying it like it is or appreciating my different point of view). So now that you have learned the RULES ARE IMPORTANT, if you want to make up for it, don't apologize - participate more. In the general discussion areas if someone asks a question and you think your point of view or answer might be helpful, post it instead of lurking, otherwise don't. If you have a question and can't find the answer (have searched for it first), don't be afraid to ask. There are so many members, someone will know the answer you seek. Regarding recommendations I rarely do them (especially if the lady is already well reviewed and my experience doesn't have much to add) but when I do I always send the lady a copy of my review first and post it only if she wants me to. So welcome! and hope to see more of your posts (were they belong) :)

It's true, used to be more popular. Seems more so with those in Ottawa and a few other major cities. I don't think I've ever seen a "real" conversation in there. To be honest I avoid chat these days... if there are any ladies around they will ask what you are up to and if there is any interest in meeting and I so hate to have to say no, I'm a 1,000 miles away. Came in super handy once! Once I was in Ottawa starting to preparing to see two wonderful ladies the next day (a guy has to go there once at least, not Ottawa but two ladies at once) and I almost cut myself shaving so I took a break from it and logged into CERB for a few minutes. No new messages to review so I went in the chat room. An SP started chatting with me almost right away (I'm not the sort to initiate a private chat for any reason) and she asked if there was anything she could do for me. Not wanting to waste her time, I very quickly told her that I was already taken and just taking a break from careful preparations (not just personal grooming but also preparing my hotel suite) for the next day. She continued to chat with me (her choice) and it was discovered that she was a former hairdresser, located 2 minutes from my hotel and in the absence of anything else to do right then and now she offered to help at a very progressive fee, an offer that was hard to refuse so I didn't. The power of CERB allowed me to check her reputation and reviews very quickly and easily and realize that she was very reputable and outstanding so I accepted her offer. Poof! She was there in less than 5 minutes, took care of everything, truly wonderful service and having taken care of everything, after a short discussion about how nice a service it was she was gone, mission accomplished. A few weeks later I went back to her web site (like who was that masked lady in the super-woman cape?) only to discover that she now plainly offers a "personal grooming service to help in preparation for that hot date" and of course that wasn't there at the time I met her so it certainly made me smile. Point is chat seems (to me) to be more those that are in a big city and would like to see a lady within the next few minutes... hope I'm wrong about that but that has been my experience with it. I don't think that was the idea behind it but it seems to be what it has become. I just don't go there as I hate to have to say "no thanks, sorry" and I think this is pretty much the reason you find so few there, unless they are in Ottawa and want to say "sure, come on over" to the first lady that comes along in which case it seems fast and easy. And I agree with you Phaedrus, pretty quiet around here lately which seems a bit odd, as more and more people discover this wonderful place I was expecting at some point it to become less wonderful (e.g. too noisy). Could happen yet someday.

I really have to fully agree and disagree with you there Cristy; while I also don't like air brushed photos (that's a bit over the top) I think professional or semi-professional photos (no low res web cam junk please) that are not touched up but well taken indicate the lady has put some effort into her brand. I don't care as much about appearances as some, but one really great lady with touched up "professional" photos I almost didn't book. Thank goodness she was less glamorous in person (still VERY beautiful, in fact more so) and therefore even more attractive to me than the girl in her pictures. And I think the establishment of a "brand" is something to give some serious thought to if you're serious. Your own domain name only costs $10 - $15/year, web hosting under your own domain name is only $50/year and your email address and responses should be under that custom domain name. Yes, you can still use Gmail and have your email come and go from cristycurves.com (Google Apps), btw that domain name (cristycurves.com) IS still available :) I see the ladies with a custom domain name and web site as serious, career minded professionals more easily then one using a hotmail or gmail address and piggy-backing on some other escort site. For my business I do have my own domain name, hosting and use Google Apps and get a lot more respect then if I was using generic email. Even more respect from the ladies when my email comes from my real business email, yet another way for them to check me out and know I am who I say I am.

Maybe someone should start a lottery pool. While there is little that sounds like more fun than Lee in a "jumbo jet" jammed full of CERB ladies, the smallest "jumbo" holds around 3 - 4 HUNDRED passengers... Even Lee (unless he is the real superman) would need some help! The needs, wants, desires and gratitude of a couple of hundred CERB ladies? Hmmmm. The proceeds of the lottery could be spent on a chartered aircraft of sufficient size to accommodate everyone that was in the winning pool. I don't have the time to offer and manage this but maybe someone does.

Oh such a good point porthos. I've seen ads that say she is highly educated with a university education or even a PhD but she can't spell or form a proper sentence. And as I do occasionally need a beautiful girl in an evening gown that looks like a match to my tuxedo for a formal dinner... well you make a very good point! I've seen this even on CERB and moved on pretty quickly.

There is a very fine line between pain and pleasure but if you're clearly not into that (pretty safe assumption) then ask a "trusted" SP to tie you up securely and tickle "torture" you until you cry "uncle". Try to hold out as long as you can before crying "uncle". Sounds like pretty harmless fun to me. You wouldn't have any trouble finding someone to play such a fun game, probably make their day (and yours to) :)

I have found that if the advertisement says she is everything to everyone, I'm less inclined to believe it or take it at face value. If it's all over the place there is no sense of "focus". Of course it's hard to beat a good review (and CERB is a review board first). Who can say they are "the best"? There is always somebody better, but when a review says they are "the best" then I have to accept that they are "the best" the reviewer has encountered. But if the ad uses way too many complementary words, it's either not true or she probably isn't really great at many of them (a true chameleon being the exception), I guess that would be over selling. Of course always use the words "utmost discretion guaranteed" and mean it. I like ads that appear to be honest, tasteful and point to reviews that speak for themselves. They only need to contain the basic information with a "hint" of any thing she might specialize in or be particularly good at. I guess I really view ads as a notice of availability and don't really try to interpret them too much anyways (unless they are way over the top, too good to be true), it's the reviews matched with the availability that the ad conveys that count. Truth in advertising is definitely the way to go. You'll attract the right sort of clients for you and they will give good reviews as their expectations are fully met. My tastes are probably different than many, I'm more interested in the person and how easily I can get to know them on a "professional" level. Others are likely way more interested in services but I can only get interested in that if I like the SP as a person first.

I don't know girl... You said they were the ones sending you lengthy messages which required lengthy responses. You don't scare me at all and if a girl (like you) sent me a lengthier response than I expected it wouldn't make me think you were desperate at all, particularly someone with a great reputation like yours! I'd think you were more sincerely interested in and serious about meeting me, that is all. I think communication is key, it's important for the SP to know a bit about me and me about her before committing to an appointment but I won't waste her time either. But then once I make an appointment, I can't wait to meet, look forward to it and am not the least bit nervous. If I made an appointment with you, you'd probably be more nervous than me but I know I'm a weirdo in some ways, many guys get cold feet, particularly if they don't have any experience. Do these guys have any? Do they provide references? Most SPs won't waste their time unless you provide a reference or two or have more extensive screening for those that can't provide a reference. Perhaps that's part of the key to understanding this, if they don't have any experience then they might well be the sort that never will (or need extra care and attention to make the leap of faith). I really think these time wasters don't even know that they are such. But then what do I know? Not like I have been reading your emails and PMs :) You haven't given the other SPs enough time to give their great wisdom on the subject. I'm sure they will have some more insight for you. I really don't think it is you or your fault in any way... except for letting it bother you :) But then that just shows you are sensitive and have feelings (thank goodness)

I think what you are doing is awesome. That said you need to forgo any pressure on yourself to respond immediately with a lengthy reply (if you think the potential client expects that, send back a short canned reply that you will respond more fully as time permits and do this only if you are so inclined to respond) and apply time management. Do it only when you simply have nothing better to do and quite frankly only when you feel like it or not at all. Or suggest the potential client call you as it does take more time to compose a lengthy reply via PM or email. Oh and as for those that take up your time and you never hear from again, well just the cost of doing business, definitely don't let it get you down! I think there is a large population of potential clients out there that can exchange endless emails but when it comes time to commit to an appointment somehow they can't do it, with your patience perhaps they can. So if you have the time and only when you have the time, I also think a lot of them can be put at ease by your email exchanges and I know when I find a really good SP I am comfortable with I will see her again and again -- like why spend the effort getting to know someone new? So you might at the end of the day pick up a valuable regular and build your client base but don't waste too much time on it. You have to strike a balance between wasting your time or being the early bird that gets the worm (or the one that's willing to answer their questions through what is a very scary process for a newbie). Back when I was doing a lot of legal work and over run with emails and correspondence I used Dragon NaturallySpeaking to send out a hundred detailed letters and emails a day and got all my other work done too. May you could take a look at that kind of optimization of your time and get ahead of the curve. The latest version is amazing. I don't use it as much these days as I can probably type a 100 words a minute but if you are a slower type-er, this thing does the typing for you as fast as you can say it. That said there are those that will never commit and are just wasting your time and I'll even guess that most of them don't even know this is the case. In other words I don't think they are intentionally or knowingly wasting your time and being responsive like you are could give you an edge to pick up the ones that will eventually decide to move forward. Oh and as for those that waste you time and you never hear from, definitely don't let it get you down, nothing to do with you and everything to do with them!

This video might help a few guys that can't read.