Secrets of Victoria

Hi there, you should always feel free to express yourself in whatever fashion you wish. This is an area where we can, and do, get feedback. Sometimes its kind, sometimes it isn't. Bullying does come in all forms, and you will get it on here, don't let it get to you. As long as your not maliciously hurting anyone, your posts are a reflection of you. Being in the same area as you, feel free to contact me if you want vent sometime. I've been around this business a long time, been there done that, lol No matter what you put in your posts, someone is going to comment, you can't please everyone so just please yourself. Take care and remember I am here.

If wishes were fishes, I would be rich! I hope you receive all that you wish for on your birthday, have a good one. Victoria

I actually have this, otherwise I wouldn't have believed it (company has since changed the packaging) -Bounce fabric softener sheets... Do not use on fabric

In response to Cat, love the posting, very well said!

I can't believe someone actually asked this. It's pretty simple, a child produced = an obligation. All responsible sp's have precautions in place, but there is no fool-proof 100% guarantee that it will never happen. The only guarantee that it won't happen is not to partake. I have been asked what precautions I utilize and have no problem is saying I use an iud. I also use condoms, but as I said, nothing is fool-proof. If the author of the thread is concerned, or thinks that the onus is strictly on the sp, take a look at the 'family law act', outlines it fairly simply there.

I fully agree here! A gentleman, good hygiene and pays (without having to be asked) is definitely my preferred client. Age, weight, marital status,height, hair.... irrelevant, it's how they conduct themselves while they are with me that's more important.

so then look for young and tall sp's in your area, by ASKING them if they offer it! I would have thought that a very simple process to go through. If I am asked about a service that I do not provide, I politely let the inquirer know that I do not. We also do not know what the other sp's offer, always best to ask them yourself. All sps will answer an inquiry about their services, if they have a website or ad, look on there to find more info about their services. Do some research. So just look for sp's you like, and ask them, simple. But you may not find what you are looking for exactly in your area, but always worth a try.

depending on where you are located, go through the sp's in the area that you live in. Only you can determine if an sp is 'hot' to you, what someone else considers hot, may not be to you. I have requests for that, and I answer that I do, becuase it is a serivce that I provide. Cerb only allows us so much on our profiles, so best to just ask a lady that you find appealing to you, if it is a service that she provides or not. Never hurts to ask! Our ads will state what we have available, good place to start. Good luck on your search, I am sure you will find what you are looking for.

hi Porthos, I like this thread, I think that it says a lot about the ladies on here. I, for one, do try to pay attention to what I place in my ads. I enjoy looking at other peoples ads/posts/threads/websites. I think that there is certainly some very nicely placed items. There is a difference between high class/elite/classy/etc, but that, like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder. I can be mild and sweet, or wild and crazy. It all depends on the illusion that the participant wants when they are with me. All women have class, some more than otheres, but that is what makes us genuinely unique. I commend the women that English is not their first language, and the fact that they take the time to place their info in English, kudos to that. English is one of the hardest languages to learn, it was not my first language, and won't be my last. I found English difficult to learn and I can certainly understand what some go through placing their info. Anyone that access someones info, has to take into consideration what they themselves are looking for. If you find the lady inviting/intriguing, ask for more info. I value all the info that I receive on this site, and welcome any comments to me, wholeheartedly no matter whether they be good or bad. Thank you for the very kind words. Victoria

very well said! I agree fully on this. Education, or lack thereof, does not warrant upscale/elite or otherwise. It is how you conduct yourself, how you portray yourself and how others see you that determine if you are 'upscale' or not. We are all individual, and I am glad that we are, it ads variety to this wonderful group of ladies. All of our websites, ads, profile pages are very different from each other,and how we choose to word those pages and illustrate them is very unique. If we all followed one set of parameters, it would be very boring indeed. I, for one, am glad that we are all different and advertise ourselves differently, its shows our true personalities and uniqueness.

I too, am in full agreement with the mod on this. I do have a paypal account, but that is for my 'other' life. The mod is absolutely right in the fact that paypal does not deal in anything that is adult related. If you want to take credit cards, open a merchant account with your banking or credit card company. You will have to have a business license in the province that you reside, but it can be worth it. You can also get a merchant account from some online companies, always worth looking into, just beware of anything that sounds too good to be true. I do accept email transfers, I think they are a great alternative to carrying cash. I will accept a payment the day before, so that the client knows that I received it. You know the client sent it, and the client knows you received it. I agree with backrubman on this, great way to deal with no-shows! I have it happen a lot, and if a person has pre-payed, then they are more likely to show. Saves a lot of time also. If your going through the effort of booking a time, then you should be paying for it ... every other service providing business has the statement of if you cancell without 24-48 hours notice (for example) a fee will be rendered (or something to that effect). In other words, they will charge you if you don't show, hotels do it if you don't show up, your credit card gets billed for the suite anyway, so why not either cancel in time or just show up? Thanks for this post, always good info on Cerb!

I really liked this reply! It does irk me when someone asks me for more info, where I am located, what I look like ...... read the profiles! lol I think it bothers me because we have all our info on websites and ads here, but the guys have nothing! (well not all of them, but a lot of them!) We have no idea on what a guy looks like most of the time, where they are located, or even what they want in booking. I do not like the pm's that just state, 'how much baby' wtf? If I have an ad, please look at it, it lists what I do, what I offer, donations and general location. It's not rocket science! I am on the calender, I have posts, I have ads and specials, all of us as sp's do. I do offer a meet and greet with someone that is new to me, that is at a reduced rate (after all, I am getting fed here! lol) and I find it ia a great way to find out more about what the client wants and needs are. there are quite a few of us that offer that. I, personally, would not want to book someone new for 4-5 hours without either a recommendation from another lady, or meeting them first. I am enjoying this thread and some of the reactions to it. Victoria(

A thought to ask, what do gentlemen prefer .... an sp to be completely shaved, neatly trimmed, or have a landing strip or natural? For the sp's, do you prefer that your gentleman callers be neatly trimmed, shaved or natural? I know my preference in gentleman callers is to be shaved, but neatly trimmed is good too. I think it makes for a better experience all around and prevents that awkward 'do I stop and remove this hair or keep going' moment. lol Let me know what is preferred

I'm not in a motel, I'm in a hotel, with board rooms/meeting rooms. dining room, etc. There happens to be two buildings to it, and my room happens to have two entrances, one from the lobby and one from the outside. There are comings and goings at all hours, due to meetings etc advertised, and there is also a lounge here, so it is way too easy to meet someone in the lounge area and go from there with no suspicions whatsoever, just that you are meeting in the public area. This is a regular hotel that I am located in, not a cheesy motel that rented by the hour. I do value the opinion though, as I am waiting for my house to be renovated, and hence the reason for the hotel. I just find it funny that I get bookings, then get calls later stating they want me to move to a 'more expensive' hotel. Can't see the logic behind it, I would just raise pricing to reflect the new hotel fees.

my particular location is a hotel, that has had a reputation in the past, but my reputation stands firm. I always assure fresh linens (sheets and towels) for every person, clean shower facilities, and a system where you come to my door only, not through a buzzer system or front desk. I play muisic in the background, the place is scented, and anyone is free to assure themselves before we begin. Its hard to locate areas where you have a 'drive up' room, they are few and far between. I have had someone ask me to change hotels, at my expense, just for that one person, and I was shocked. The way that I set up my rooms (high end or mid range places) is always with touches of home. Ive been turned down, after confirmed booking and within mintues of the meeting time, due to the 'reputation' of the location. I do like what you said about the person that you are going to see, it should be them that you focus on and how you are treated by them that stands out, not what the decor of the facility is.

This is a post for all of you guys out there. Of course, feedback from the ladies is always welcome too, lol! Feel free to post your wishes, what you look for and how you would rate the following: What is the most important thing to you when seeing an incall provider? Is there anything in particular that you seek with incall rather than an outcall sp? Is there anything that puts you off seeing an sp in a particular location? Is the location itself important, or just how the sp has set up the incall location? (personally, I have had suites in high end hotels that have been terrible, and 'okay' rooms in a not so high end hotel that have been great) If a particular location has a 'reputation', would that put you off seeing any sp there? (in other words, does the reputation of the sp have bearing moreso over the location?) Most importantly, what would you prefer, an incall location where you have the freedom to shower, relax, talk, have the encounter ... or an outcall where an sp comes to your place? Any feedback is welcomed, just be nice to know what affects how we conduct ourselves.

Personally, I will send a polite 'thank you' in public messaging to someone that has viewed my profile. Now in stating that, I can't obviously be on the site 24/7, so I can only see the last ten people that have looked at my profile at any given time, so I may have missed a few people that have viewed my profile. I have had requests to send people messages on when I may be somewhere, and that is fine, I'm hoping its not considered unsolicited as they have asked me for the info, but I have gotten into the habit of asking people to refer to the calendar to see where I might be. In saying that, with the amount of emails and pm's we sp's sometimes receive, I feel its better that the potential client peruse the calendar to see where any of the ladies may be, as it can be difficult to keep track of all of the requests. I will ask the person to keep checking the calendar to see where I am or where I am going to be. I don't think that I would ever consider just randomly pm anyone on the site stating that I might be in whatever city very soon and did they want to see me. As someone else posted in this thread, if they want to see us, they will contact us. If you want to solicit for business, use the shoutbox and post, that is what it's for.

I love the fact that you took the time to send the fee with a delivery service, I receive a lot of no shows ans not oncew have any of them ever had the decency to even send me a message, let alone the fee by delivery/courier .... kudos to you for that! It just goes to show that there are gentlement out there after all

He emailed for a week, then confirmed last week he wanted the booking, then confirmed again today. I just didn't like the way he handled it, could have just said, 'sorry, but I'm not comfortable with the location'. I gave up another client (as the space was now booked)and actually went to expense for this guy today. I admire your compensation method. Additional Comments: yes, I agree, life does get complicated, and this is why I like to confirm to confirm with a phone number I can reach you at as I have had to cancel due to complications. Idon't like cancelling, but this way I can give the person notice that I am not able to make it and will offer them another time or day.. Just not showing up at all is plain inconsiderate If I receive an apology, I will consider letting the person see me, but a second no show, and its adios, darling! lol

I know this happens all the time, but how do others handle no shows? After messaging, information, texting, phone calls and confirmation, when a client does not show, how does everyone handle that? I know that whenever I must cancel an appointment with anything, I take the time to either let the person know that I am running late/delayed/can't make it/can I reschedule. It is common courtesy. I feel, that at least a call or message to let me know that a person cannot make the time that they have booked, would be appropriate. At least that way I may be able to reschedule something else. No call, no text, no pm to state they are not coming, is not acceptable to me. I took the time today to accomodate someone that did not confirm with me the night before, as I had asked to do. I was left with an email address that I could not connect to through their system, and I pm'd the client to ask them to confirm with me by calling/texting my phone the night before. I received a call three hours before the time was to take place. I did confirm the appointment, but the person wanted to now reduce the session to a service of lower denomination, and after knowing where I was located, called me back an hour later to state that he 'didn't like the location I was in', so he wanted to cancel. After going over some information with him, he agreed to see me in the location I was in. He basically wanted me to move to another hotel, at my cost, to do a service call for a reduced rate, that would have cost me more for the hotel than I was going to receive! I don't know about other sp's on here, but I have never heard of anyone ever being asked to do this! There are not a lot of places available, I am in a clean, quiet location, that I took the time to decorate myself (as we all know that hotel decor is not always the best), but it is clean and quiet. I am the only person on this floor, so how much more discrete do you think I get be right now? Pretty sweet from what I see. As far as I am concerned, when I provide the hotel room, I can assure that the place is cleanust as I would have in my own static location. What gets to me is the fact that the person did not even have the courtesy to let me know that he wanted to cancel, he just opted to not show up at all. It would be interesting to see from the guys what they do when they feel a need to cancel. I know that when I am seeing someone, I usually give them their full fee if I have had to cancel with less than a days notice. That seems to be a standard practice in any business. Feedback from others certainly woul dbe appreciated in this matter.

I, for one, do enjoy giving in this fetish. If the gentlemen are shy about asking, ask a lady for a list of what she provides, if it is on the list, then no need to be shy in asking. As someone else said previously, you are both on the same page. It does take some preparation work, so booking for something like this is highly recommended. There are not a lot of sp's that provide this, so always better to ask a lady.

What I find sexy about a person is when you can look into their eyes and almost feel what they are 'not saying'. For example, when you are together, you can look into each others eyes and 'talk' to each other without actually saying a word, I find that incredibly sexy!

Hi there, I am sorry to hear that you are being put through something as awful as this. Whatever you do, don't delete the messages, ignore them but do keep reporting them to the mod, they will respond and take swift action. Things like this definitely are not tolerated on this site, and the person in question will be taken care of my the mod. If it persists, and you do feel this puts you in imminent danger, by all means, contact your local police. Nothing you have done is wrong, but threats and demands are against the law, and just because the person is using an 'alias' (I assume) on here, the mod and police will be able to track it. Keep your chin up, and we are all here to support you! Sending happy thoughts and wishes your way, Victoria

I am in full agreement with Sophia on this posting. We, as sp's, get asked all the time if we have recommendations. Sometimes we do, sometimes we don't. If a gentleman has a good experience with an sp, it is worth our weight in gold to have that recommendation. I have had a few gentlemen turn me down after pm'ing me for days with lots of information back and forth, all due to the fact that ' he couldn't find any reco's for me'. Unfortunate? Yes, can I live with it? Well, I would rather have a satisfied gentleman sing my praises, of course. While some gentlemen prefer to remain anonymous on this site, and I certainly don't blame them for that, even a few words, or a nice comment in the reco section about an encounter with us, is extremely valued by us sp's. I also, check out as much information about the prospective gentleman, from the moment that I receive a message that they would like to be with me. I check out their profile, their posts, pictures if they have any, and with whom they are friends. Most gentlemen do not post a lot of information about themselves, from where they are located, age, stats, anything. I have no idea with whom I am dealing until I can ask for the information. The gentlemen that I have be fortunate enough to meet through cerb, have been wonderful, for the most part. Like any site, there are those that do 'troll' the system, and are basically 'getting off', for lack of better way to put it, to our information and pictures. This is a site where you can have an encounter with a lady, not a site where we spend our entire day having cybersex with you. I will not conform to 'sexting' on my phone with anyone, but I will take the time to let you know what you want to know about me. Our reputations only go so far, unless we have recommendations. I for one, seldom will see someone that has no reputation, without a recommendation from another sp that has actually seen them. So I will ask that participation is sought in reco's, after all, wouldn't you want to know that you are coming to see who you think you are, rather than taking a chance on a preverbial 'blind date'? I value if I receive a recommendation, and with thank the person posting it.

I am in full agreement with this statement. Openness and honesty are key factors in this business. I for one will never ever consider advertising myself as anything other than who I am. Being only 5'4, I don't say I'm 5'8", I am definitely not a spinner, nor am I a bbw, but my descriptions of myself are very accurate. We all conduct ourselves with distinction and give respect to those that wish to spend time with us. I certainly hope that anyone visiting this fair city is not discouraged in seeing any one of us, but you know the old saying, 'one bad apple spoils the barrel'. Unfortunately, there will be some in the business that want to 'outdo' the competition. It isn't a competition, it's a lifestyle, and the gentlemen that want to spend time with us will. We are all here for the same general purpose, to avail ourselves to the company of discerning gentlemen. Hopefully there will be no more of it, I do tire of seeing so called 'bashings' of other sp's. There is absolutely no need for it. As the very first line on the Cerb site says, 'if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say it at all', and I believe that the ladies on this service live by that statement.