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Complete skeptic here. In my religion, the concept of something called Jinns exist, which would be the closest to what most people may relate to ghosts (also how the whole genie thing came to be). Many people of my faith claimed to have some sort of encounter, but for some reason, I've always rationalized any weird sounds around my house with assuming its some pipe or creak due to heat expansion, or something of that sort. But the difference between a Jinn and a ghost is that ghosts are meant to be remaining spirits from people whose bodies have long passed. Jinns are said to be living creatures, and this is where it gets a little confusing, they are said to live on the same planet we do, but in an entirely different dimension (for lack of a better word). Like us, they have the concept of religion, love, marriage, and they do die. Unlike us, they have the ability to move very fast over very long distances. They can also choose between being good and evil, or living in the many shades in between. Satan or Shiatan is actually supposed to be a Jinn that did not bow to Adam when God commanded all Jinns and angels to. They are also claimed to have one other fairly interesting ability, take on the shape of anything. Because they are believed to be immensely more powerful than humans, we are exposed to them in a way that does not go the other way. As well, take upon control of a living human (Think The Exorcist, perhaps less scary). I've never put too much thought into such things. I figure things like ghosts and jinns and spirits and all that stuff is just nonsense. But I'll tell you what though, I switched on a lamp after reading some of the stories here. You know, just in case ;)

Okay, now I'm getting a little annoyed. I said as clearly as I possibly could, I was surprised at his no bargaining for anything under the sky policy of his. I thought of the one thing everyone I know tries to deal on, and ask him on it. I am literally telling you the meaning of a simple question I asked, and now there are subtleties? Again this comparison thing that you've said I've done is very presumptuous on your part. I have no idea what snark you were talking about, and I'm frankly insulted. I will say that I can't determine with absolute certainty in what spirit she said that, and I apologize if you are correct on that. But I think before you went ahead and accused her of making the SP and burger comparison, it would've been more polite to ask. If you think it's clear cut, how about proof that between the two of us, we've come out with widely different interpretations. And since you said again that I've made a direct comparison to cars and SPs after I specifically said I did not and in what context I left my remark, I'm not sure what your purpose is. I don't know why you feel compelled to tell me what I meant when I said something specific, or why you are trying to read more into something and 'read between the lines'. And I have no idea why you think this necessary to tell me that there is a difference between a person and an object? Is this why you've made the same incorrect assumption about what I said twice? Because you think I'm for negotiating? (For the record, I've already stated much earlier in this thread I'm against negotiating on rates). Or something else? Before you respond, think about what you just said about comparing an object to an SP, a heinous sin. I don't hold that exact view. I think comparing anyone to an object or anything not human is beyond disgusting. I've seen people treated little better then slaves and was told "that's just how life is", I grew up in a society that regards foreign labourers as replaceable, and I've lost friends who were labelled as 'collateral damage'. For you to insinuate that she and I could even draw a comparison of that sort, without even being completely sure is worse then calling me a bigot, racist, or hell even a terrorist. You've assumed I've made a comparison that only a monster would. And even though you are just another name on just another board, I can't tell you how much you insulted me. Now can you please stop assuming things that I supposedly meant? If I want to say something, I will spell it out. I promise you, if I wanted to say something, it would not get lost in subtleties. ...- Back on topic. Guys, don't negotiate, ladies don't like it, and it's not classy

Naughty Samantha has a pretty smart title strategy. An R-rated question, with the answered revealed inside. On another board, a lady uses Mancare services for the ladies where they can check their husbands in. And plays with that theme. Ads that are explicit usually get my attention in the first couple of seconds. Ads that are creative linger in my mind long after I've seen them.

I read somewhere that in Manhattan during the 20s, the rich were obsessed with building the tallest tower. Basically, it's "mine's bigger then yours". We do live in a society which praises large penises (never mind that a good number of women might find it painful, a large dick is a trophy that you carry around), large boobs, hairless chests (on guys), a healthy head of hair, and the list goes on. Treat an escort well, with respect and kindness and a good escort will make you feel fan-fucking-tastic. Give a choice between a douchebag sporting a Ron Jeremy sized dick, and a nice guy who is below average, she's going to pick the latter any day of the week. I had my own set of insecurities before. And I can't say I let them go immediately, but after a few visits, those insecurities stopped being important to me. Don't let this penis size issue worry you too much. And if you feel conscious about it, listen carefully to anything she says when you go down on her, and learn how to give great massages. There are many ways to please a lady then having a large member. Relax, have fun, be happy. Repeat.

Annoyingly, I couldn't reply directly to this, so here's a picture. I don't care if my views are challenged. I welcome it. But Phaedrus, I do not appreciate words being put into my mouth as you did here. Nntsci's claim on not bargaining for anything under the sky seemed a bit surprising to me. It was not a major consideration to even warrant a post and prolong this thread even further, so I left a rep comment thing. To draw from that and imply that I meant to compare SPs and cars was in poor taste and presumptious. I was about to let it go till I read you doing something similar again here. Again you've taken the words out of context and done a simple 'SP to something else' comparison to prove a point. She could've used anything to make her case; it's the act of politely telling a client once again what the prices are when asked that she was trying to convey. I can't speak for all SPs, but here is one example of someone who doesn't seem to mind that question. To shut her down like that was imho, a bit rude. I'm sorry if this will derail the thread, but I will not have words put into my mouth, especially when it is something offensive like this.

Peachy (just pm her about the slapping around/hair pulling bit first, I'm not sure where she's on that front). But she definitely took me out of my comfort zone.

I think this is the best advice for this situation. There are two things that came to mind when I read this. First of all, some people do have fantasies that goes beyond taboo. For whatever reason they derive a certain pleasure from it (I hope this doesn't come across as judgmental). There are women with rape fantasies, but I doubt any of them actually do want to be raped, to them it's role play. There are people like myself that dabble with bdsm that involves a certain level of physical pain. It does not mean that I would ever inflict pain on someone else without consent in an appropriate setting, nor subject myself to it. There is a very specific time and a setting for these sorts of activities, and done with full understanding on both/all parties involved. Second, I'm not sure if your client has some sort of underage fetish or perhaps just something with 16 year olds. This might be a bit unpopular to say, but certain societies accept individuals of this age to be able to make informed consent with regards to sex. Some places the age is higher than it is in Canada, where 21 is the appropriate age for such activities. This one is your call, and like RG said, only do what is comfortable for you. But games with respect to age is a bit more common that one might think. Slutty School Girl Diaper Fetish /edit - I didn't notice this earlier but realnicechat gave a much better explanation on ageplay.

I saw a lady mainly because of her Twitter account. She didn't have a blog, wasn't part of any forums actively, or have any online presence with the exception of her website and Twitter account. But from the stuff she said, and shared, she gave an impression of being thoroughly into her work. I liked that a lot, and saw her. And had a great time too. For me, it's having an online presence that's important. I haven't seen anyone without a website, but I'm more likely to see someone who is active here, comfortable with a blog sharing her thoughts, or whatever outlet she prefers.

There are moments here where I read someone's comment on a thread, and it strikes me how profound those words are. Short, concise, and sweet. Basically, in the "N" thread, Cleo said probably the only thing of value there.

My personal motto

Wow, grandma alert here! ...- Sorry for being rude, but thought I'd give you a basic example of flaming. Basically, rudeness for the intent of insulting because people have too much time on their hands for such nonsence.

I got my Iron Ring when I graduated (Engineers in Canada get one in their final semester). Wore it for the ceremony, never since.

I'm more inclined to see someone 24+. Just would like to stick to my age group. I made an exception for someone who seemed very mature, and don't regret it. Just that whenever I see an 18 year old, it's like looking at a girl from high school. Nope, not going there.

Had this issue once, with a non-Cerb lady. She was a smoker, which isn't a deal killer till her tongue that she jammed down my mouth tasted like ash. I saw someone else who is a smoker, but she was very careful. I don't care about a hint of taste, but when I'm imagining the tongue as black, it's an issue.

What he said

Yes. As someone who provides a service, in my early days when I did allow for a bit of negotiation with my prices, I treated them with as much respect and dedication as I would any other full paying client. It was my reputation on the line. But that's beside the point. I don't haggle or negotiate with SPs or MAs because it's not worth my time, or effort to save $20. And because if I'm being brutally honest, if her prices are too high, she'll find out herself (Gotta love capitalism). I think negotiation on a price if you're looking for sex is crass, cheap and just overall douchey. But at the same time, as much as this service is categorized as luxury, I'm a bit appalled with some of the rants on this thread. I understand when other threads open up because of safety issues, or matters pertaining to health and hygiene, but as this is a matter of money I don't think the issues compare. Getting negotiated on is always a downer, for a massive number of reasons, but I would never dare go on a wedding forum for brides and grooms to be to rant about prospective customers about the practice. Negotiation has given me the single best tool to weed out good clients and the bad.

This thread seems to be getting very heated very fast. I think OP has got his answer

I'm glad this was brought up. I started to feel a little uneasy when rates are used in a sense to form a judgement.

To the ladies that have responded, how often do you deal with negotiators?

I've had memorable experiences. But the one that sticks out was with JessicaMassage. I was entirely convinced at one point were were going to slip, but during that time, I thought to myself "Worth it". It was that awesome.

To each their own. I was getting a bj once, and she just reached up, and grabbed my hand. And as bizarre as this may sound, holding hands just seemed too intimate for me. Never mind that there was a completely naked girl giving me a blowjob while I'm wearing nothing as well. I find a grade school act of romance too intimate. I've seen ladies who do not kiss, and it's been a great experience without that. The only issue here is if she advertised those services, or gave you the impression that it was okay. For an SP, I'd hazard a guess saying that it would be standard, but I guess from now own, you know to ask. I'm just wondering if perhaps you may have been expecting more because of this: From my understanding, this is rare. And regardless of how often this happens, it does not indicate future services.

Majority of the time, I click on someone's profile because they checked mine out. Just curiosity, nothing else

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I would not be seeing any lady without reviews. I'm not a TOFTT kinda guy, I don't like risks on this, I want to be sure that other clients who have seen a particular SP are having a great time with her. The only time I didn't appreciate reading a review was when a guy mentioned something that an SP did, which I would have much preferred to be a surprise. After I've seen a particular SP, I don't read her reviews. Not that I have any jealously or any feeling of ownership, but the memory of an experience she and I had is better than anything someone writing down their own. I don't read it after I've seen her because I don't need to. But I'm always happy for her if I notice she gets another review. I'm not going to pretend to know about your business and the challenges you face, but I do see a few warning lights when a client is entertaining the GF fantasy before/after a session to a point where it makes them upset. But if your clients who have this concern are anything like the average male (including me), be mindful of our occasionally fragile egos. Maybe a simple reminder that the experience with them is different from anyone else (which is basically what you said in the OP). You do seem genuinely enthusiastic about what you do, and IMO that's what most clients want.

Yeah, I've noticed the same. Bit sad about that, not that there is anything wrong with agencies, just that it's not my cup of tea.