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The potential for abuse I imagine would exist. So tread carefully when offering something for free. If you made some sort of special, after x hours, you get y hours of social for free within a certain time frame might work. But also be careful, that you don't de-value the worth of your time.

The more I notice her posts, and if she presents herself a particular way, the more I notice. It works both ways, I've been influenced to meet someone just because of her online presence, but I've also been turned off by a particular person (Who is not on Cerb, but somewhere else) by the manner of the way she speaks. I am attracted to healthy body types so there is no ideal weight. I feel like a hypocrite saying that since I'm not rocking a 6-pack, but I think that I would value the comfort, her exceptional service that warranted repeat visits would matter more. I understand that this industry revolves around secrecy. Outside this industry I've become friends with people I pay for services, or help them if I can. One SP told me that she runs another business of some sort (she told me, but I'm being intentionally vague here for privacy reasons), and I nearly asked her what was the name/address so I could tell someone I know about it. I caught myself at the last moment because that would've been like asking her for her real name, personal information about her life. There was another who was going through a course that I've taught, and before I thought about it, the words slipped out of my mouth when I offered to help her. I didn't want to give the impression that I was looking for free time. Like I said, I completely understand the need for secrecy, I know that there are many out there looking for a work around for paying, and worst of all, the utmost consideration for safety, so I hold my tongue. So this would be it, not completely being about to be friendly like I would anyone else. Once we did the business and had a whole hour left. She offered to refund the entire hour. I took her offer and went back a couple of weeks later. In most instances, I like a massage (giving/receiving), talking, relaxing. Everyone has an off day. I wouldn't care about it too much. If it was a re-occurring pattern, that's a different story. Depends on the lady, and depends on the request. If I get a sense that she's open to ideas, then I do share them.

What has been the most surprising thing you've learned or done after being an SP?

Common sense isn't common.

You guys really know how to make me feel classy. Thanks!!

My ex and I didn't get along at the end of our relationship. There were some good parts, and I know I made my share of mistakes, but while we once thrived, by the end, it felt abusive. Yet I stayed longer then I should have. I kept telling myself that it was worth it, that it would turn around. And I snapped one day, nothing particular major happened. We were just talking normally, and I barely said anything. Said bye, and left. We didn't talk for months after. I was so angry at her, and angry at myself for wanting to go back. And slowly I started to heal. I can honestly say that after a year, I felt no resentment towards her. Oddly enough, a few months later, she messaged and apologized for what she had become, what she had done. The part of forgiveness is to manage your own emotions. It was too taxing to hate her. It consumed me, and literally served no purpose. I've heard the term "forgive but don't forget". I think I actually get it now. I always thought that by not forgetting, there is a small part deep inside you that never lets go to that anger/pain. But it's not that, for me it was making choices wiser. Looking out for myself to avoid getting hurt again that way.

I've been waiting for an Impressionist! La Grenouillère What makes Renoir, and the lot of Impressionist art so amazing is that it's truly something you have to see to really understand. Their art was a new form, something despised and ignored initally. Looking at the painting above is why it's classified under impressionism. You can see the brush strokes, and from really close, the image really doesn't make that much sense. As you step away, the brush strokes, colour, everything start to fuse together. It's something so beautiful to see, and if any of you make a trip to Washington DC, you must check out the Smithsonian on the Mall of America to see more Impressionist art. Someone current and more contemporary Ai Weiwei

Both cats that I adopted were abused and abandoned. What confuses the hell out of me is that the both of them are as gentle as you can imagine. One of them is by far the most affectionate cat I have ever come across. It breaks my heart thinking that at one point in their lives, they were miserable, scared, and in pain. Both are deathly scared of the outdoors, and the thought that some people left them somewhere in the middle no where makes me feel anger that I rarely feel. I have no idea why anyone would do this. Why is a very good question.

It's too cumbersome to have a strong opinion about everything. A lot of the times I know that I need more information to completely asses the situation, information that I won't get just by reading the paper, or watching the news. One example in Toronto that's a very complicated topic is a runway extension for a downtown Airport which is on an island. Issues range from jobs, economics, taxes to noise, pollution, viability. Proponents from both sides who know what they are talking about have excellent points, otherwise a lot of people are spewing nonsense or basic talking points. I know that the situation isn't completely clear, and I don't have all the information to really decide one way or the other yet.

Top of the podium as of today with 3 gold, 3 silver, and 1 bronze!

There is no one thing that's the most important aspect to see an SP. It's a combination of a lot of things. There are a lot of exceptional ladies out here, so there are a lot of ways I narrow down to one. Firstly, price. It's just simple logic, I can either afford her services or not. If not, or I think it's too high, I move on. The next is her presentation. I'm talking about things like her ad, her website. Everyone that I've ever seen has a great website up. Not to judge those who don't have a website up, but it feels like she's more invested in her business. I love blogs, but I've never not seen someone who doesn't have a blog. On the other hand, I have seen a lady just because I loved a post she made, and ignored the first point completely. Finally, when I do see her, does it seem as if she's putting an effort? I know that not all personalities click, and it is a tough job (I can't begin to imagine how much), but things like a clean place, a good attitude. In thankfully just one case, I walked in and the SP's incall was quite messy. She seemed blah about the whole thing, and I felt so creeped out, I excused myself to go to the bathroom, and then faked a stomach ache and left.

Haven't seen these ladies, but perhaps this might help. http://www.cerb.ca/classifieds/g58-ottawa-fetish-providers.html

I really don't care about the clutter. I always just view through the most recent posts anyway. A concern is that I've seen recommendation threads on other forums before, and a good number of times it has some side effects. I understand the intention is completely genuine, but I've seen cliques forming. In the more controversial threads, I've already seen people use other people's support to prove their point of view is right, rather then discussing the merits of the argument. I feel that recognition threads might turn into popularity contests. Reddit is a great website with a lot of great content shared, but even there, many users are after 'karma' which is the point system to see how many people liked your posts/threads. It has literally no value, but I guess it's some sort of internet cred. Anyway, I don't oppose recognition threads for the sake of 'cluttering the forum', but with the ability to thank someone on a thoughtful post, I wonder if there is any reason to look for more ways to provide said recognition.

I had a friend who does. And she was completely open about it. As a friend, I know a little too much about her favourite kinds of videos (Did I say she is open about it?) But in all honesty, good for her for enjoying it. I know I do the same thing

I was thinking about this thread yesterday. I met an old boss last night and memories of that job started to rush in. It was my first office job, and it was an experience. The thing is that I've always hated my old boss. He did a lot of things wrong. The stuff I went through was excessive. I was so happy when he got transferred and I got a new boss. My new boss was amazing, and fun to work for. But when I actually got thinking about it, my batshit insane boss taught me a lot. We used to disagree a lot with how to proceed with projects, and would rip my ideas to shreds, but I was more determined to prove him that my way was better. With the boss that came after, I can't think of one thing I actually learned. I didn't need to, it was extremely relaxed, I was young, and all I cared for was my shorter hours and more pay. We tend to sometimes live in a very binary world. It's either one thing or another. No shades of grey. It makes things simpler to deal with people. Going back to 'nice people', the description is thrown out frequently. But so is the opposite - "Oh she's such a bitch, he's a monster, etc". I think I'm comfortable using the word nice. Sometimes even if someone doesn't exactly embody the word, perhaps being labelled as nice might give them something to aspire to. But a negative label does nothing but create divide. Nice thread

Welcome aboard!

I'm sane!!! But on a more serious note, this is actually quite important. I've known I was into BDSM for a long time, and realized that I was a switch. Recently I've been exploring that a lot more, and I do have a nagging feeling every so often if what I've been doing is wrong or unhealthy. The thing is I stay within the lady's and my limits, always have fun, but even in 'progressive' shows, a character with BDSM is shown to be just disgusting. And somethings I feel a bit wrong for liking it all the same.

When you guys became good friends, did that person stay a client?

I saw one that's 10 years older then me. Everyone is different, but I didn't feel as if her age contributed to that difference. She could've been my age and it wouldn't have changed anything imo.

I'm an equal opportunity door-opener. I couldn't care less if it's a guy or a girl. That door will stay open until you pass it. But I'm always first in an elevator if I'm with a girl. As a kid, I was taught that the gentlemanly thing to do is get in, keep the door open for her. Upon reaching the desired floor, let her leave first while keeping it open. On the elevator front, I just do it for the ladies.

I thought how someone who doesn't have a lifetime of experience to guide them would do should try it out. And I got 4. Because everyone knows Ali, Liar Liar is timeless and will never get old, Superman is in again, and EVERYone watches the Wizard of Oz. The other stuff made no sense.

In Ottawa, I was very happy with one SP, and I felt no need to find any other. With MPs, it's a slightly different story. I have enjoyed myself with different ladies, but I feel that each brings something very different to the table. So I've seen a few, but try to limit myself, because I do wish to go back to those who have been so absolutely fantastic.

Or neither? Saw this today, made me think and I was just curious as to what people here thought. Comparing women to objects, or getting the point across well? No poll because I rather not dictate the choices.

Wow! I thought I was the only one. People would make so much fun of me for this. I finally have company!! French Vanilla There is a drink that a friend of mine makes with mango juice mixed with rum or vodka or something with alcohol in it. It tastes fantastic.