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Not sure it was 60's or 70's. My first strip bar was in 1989 and they were all unshaven as opposed to now. I think the transition took place in the late 80's rather than 60's (just when I came to age lol.

Dear John letters? Is this invitation to what they call Johns' school for the whole week? Their wives wouldn't be happy if they had opened the letters accidently or in the mail. If they haven't broken the law (based on yours and my interpretation of the law as written), they they shouldn't be penalize/harassed in any way by LE, in my view.

Thank you very much for the quick response Megan. Yes when I read it that was my understanding too. I have a gray memory that I may have read many years ago about a place on bank street being busted and the paper said the cops have confiscated the appointment books to go after the what they called Johns. My memory is very gray and since I don't know what year it was, I can't find the link. Btw, congratulations on surpassing the 2500th post mark, Megan :-).

Provisions of Criminal Code The criminal code of Canada makes unlawful the following: owning, managing, leasing, occupying, or being found in a bawdy house, as defined in Section 197 (Section 210) I have been beating my brain trying to understand this ( I am no lawyer). I want to find my answer with regard to incalls as for visiting MPs or SCs and what degree of risk it carries out of curiosity. My understanding from reading above as stated is that one has to be physically found in the bawdy house (i.e. at the time of raid) in order to be charged. If my understanding is correct the legal risk of incalls are much less than what I originally thought. It is like flying with a plane. If you are so much out of luck to be in the wrong plane at the wrong time (when it crashes) then you may die. Are incalls really that low risk? My question... If there is compelling evidence that one may have been in a bawdy house (like his picture in the camera as he enters or lives the place), is that sufficient to charge him with being found?? As a totally hypothetical example to clarify my question, would I be legally responsible if I go to an SC or MP (and I know SCs have cameras in the parking lots of all SCs by law and may be MPs too as I have never been to MPs) and receive totally legal services and then the SC or MP is raided a few months or years later for whatever reason and my picture in the cameras going to the place months or days before. Or I would be responsible only if I am caught receiving illegal services (likely not as being in there is enough to be charged regardless) or have to be physically there at the time of the raid? Any lawyer or law expert on board? (or someone with superior intrepretation skills as per statement above).

If I try to book a girl with them now then your post above would be true and applicable to me (you have advised me countless times with loads of proof (by the links you have provided recently) NOT so when I booked Sophia with them last Tuesday Cowboy. At that time the only evidence against them and before me was the two fake pictures that they had posted on their web site back in June (and last Tuesday that was the only documented evidence in your diary as I mentioned in my Tuesday post in this thread) and at that time I noted that they have removed those two documented pictures from Ottawa Vixens site. The link on Sophia (that she is in Montreal and their likely association with Montreal agency) and other evidences (as per your post above) came around AFTER my booking day, which was last Tuesday. I acted on the existing evidence at the time (that Ottawa Vixens posted two B & S pictures back in June and had removed them from their site since. This was the only facts before me at the time of booking)). So, the reason for me deciding to give them a second chance last Tuesday.

Sorry not sure about Sundays as I have never been there on a Sunday but from my experience with other bars Sundays are usually very quiet and the variety is not there. I know Daisy works every second Saturday. Anyone else knows about Taboo Sundays?

Thanks Carley for coming to our city and glad to read that you had a wonderful time and also very happy that you plan visits to Ottawa more often in the future. As Rick said enjoy your long weekend.

Likely I didn't get my message across Cowboy. At the time of booking I was not aware of all these that you just posted (were they posted in your dairy Cowboy?) not everyone is a detective. By the conditions I set in my emails to them (please read earlier posts) I was in no lose situation and my third point was that as a result of cancelation (and Ottawa Vixens let me know about this the night before) I found an alternative way of having fun and I had much more fun, so again it was a win for me no matter how you look at it and in my mind it could have been a win for many Ottawa hobbyists if it had the slightest chance to be true and it was worth testing.

I may be wrong Cowboy but I think they have removed the two fake pictures documented in your diary..... As far as Laura I think that whoever stole that picture also fooled a couple of other agencies (one very reputable). So my assumption was (again I could be wrong) they made a mistake at the beginning (by posting the two fake pictures documented in your diary) and they removed it. And Sophia was not documented in your diary and btw, I only realized that Sophia is in Montreal AFTER you PMed me the link so I didn't know that at the time of booking. I only was trying to give them a second chance to prove themselves. I strongly do believe in supporting the youth, the underdogs, the weak and the under privileged. It was not a faith in them but rather providing a second chance to an underdog and the possibility of discovering a possible reputable agency in Ottawa (and by God we need one). I would like to thank you for the link that you sent me Cowboy as I found a few others on BP for Sophia and email them to Ottawa Vixens. They thought it was me who made all those discoveries (it was you) that only a great detective can pin down someone in ANOTHER city. They didn't know it was you lol and likely made them believe I was a detective or cop lol!!.

I was trying to respond to OP and may be discover a new reputatble agency for Ottawa hobbyists at my own expense (they call it TOFTT). As general comments not directed at any particular person or agency I believe in second chances. Some people make mistake at the begining and they all deserve to be given a second chance to correct or prove themselves (NOT violent offenders against women and children). Now Ottawa Vixens likely let me down (I say likely because may be they genuinely believed that I was a cop and trying to trap them as per Megan's post) but anyone who feels people who newly start a business and try to make it in the industry (and likely to become a competition) should be off with their heads the first time that they make a mistake is cruel and unjust. Those who never made a mistake in their lives throw the first stone. In defence of Ottawa Vixens and presenting both sides of the story (since they are not here to defend themselves) they sent me another email later saying that apart from the fact that I could be a cop I also said kissing (and nothing else) is a requirement in my email booking. They said that only the girl can speak for herself and they couldn't accept this (in my own defence I said that she must NOT do what she does not wish and if after I meet her she is not a GFE I would pay for the cost of her transportation but not for her time not spent. I also make legal statements in my bookings that may have made them believe that I was a cop (I usually say that I am outcall only for legal reasons, that she must be over 18 and age verification IDs will be sought if she is advertised as 18 or 19 year old, as well as I point out that the donation is for her time only). They said I made so much legal mumbo jumbo that I must be a cop trying to trap them. Now at first I said what a nonsense. In outcalls no laws are broken so trap them for what!!!! but after what Megan posted, I see that they may have had a point. Btw, I got nothing bad as a result of this test (yes it was a test for Ottawa Vixens as I said). The appointment was cancelled and I went to Taboo instead and had an absolutely great time (see my thread in strip club section) and yes I deserved to get what I asked for lol (several beautiful ladies instead of one), thanks.

It would make DATY a lot more exotic since long pubic hair is so sexy. Also you can push the long hair aside and discover the hidden treasure. For those of us who love natural kitties, we love the sexy looks, the exotic feel , smell and taste of a clean recently showered natural kitty with long pubic hair. It is also as rare as a treasure to find one these days especially on the ones under 30's. Damn Playboy for making it a fashion in the 80's. For those who love to see natural kitties there are plenty of pictures of beautiful natural kitties in our Natural Kitty lovers society. If interested to see those exotic pictures please join. Btw, natural kitties have their own web sites (if you Google search) which means there is a big crowd of supporters and lovers out there. http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/group.php?groupid=54

I would like to add Daisy at Taboo as one of my most favorite dancers (please refer tio her review in the related thread on Taboo if interessted).

Most welcome Reddog. Not sure if it was my lucky afternoon or it is always so great late Saturday afternoons but I was taken by surprise to see the variety, the number and beauty of dancers in Taboo and the openmindedness in the CR and its privacy as compare to the bars on the Ottawa side. Nothing illegal taking place. Just lots of huggings and kissings and emotional intimacy in a private environment. Daisy (the superstar) is there every other Saturday so you know where I will be in 2 Saturdays lol :-).

This experience derserves a thread of its own as I had a heavenly late Saturday afternoon at Taboo. When I entered Taboo I was pleasantly surprised to see so many customers (the bar has clearly recovered from the recent unfortunate incident) and a lot happier to see so many beautiful young ladies there all over the place. It was a complete variety and a heaven for a woman-loving guy like me. You could find eveything that you wished for in that bar at 5:00 pm lol. If you like ebony ladies there were 2 or 3 beautiful slender ones there. If you love tanned cute brunettes, also a few in Taboo. If you love beautiful pale brunettes then plenty there too. What differentiates Taboo from other bars (like Barbs who also have beautiful young ladies and a variety) is that CR dances in Taboo are private and the so called open CR concept has not spread to there). As I entered the bar a very cute young lady was on the stage and plenty more sitting around the bar waiting for the rich prince to take them to CR. Here is a review of some of the ladies I had the pleasure of having dances with. 1 - Review of Karine As soon as I sat a very cute young lady by the name of Karine came to sit with me and we ordered drinks and we started convering and flirting. While it was nice but I didn't want it in the open so I invited her to the CR. Karine is a very cute very openminded brunette with small but cute body and soft tanned skin. Lots of kissing and I had her for 5 sounds and enjoyed my time too. She is recommended for those who love very cute young looking small tanned very openminded brunettes. 2 - Review of Daisy: Then comes the queen of the queens, the star of Taboo, the beauty princess Daisy. I saw her when I was walking to CR with Karine and she got all my attention. Her name is Daisy and by God she is so beautiful. She has a very beautiful face and those lovely soft short black hair around her makes her pale soft face even more beautiful. She is smiling all the time and when I told her that she is beautiful, she said that she knows that and on the top of being beautiful, she said she is also very gorgeous. I took her to CR and I had a number of dances with her as I didn't find the ability in myself to end the CR dances. She has beautiful feminine soft and very sexy body (though likely not very slender) and though at the beginning she was distant but gradually she got very close and gave me a dancer GFE experience by the kind of kisses she gave me. She does have a bit of belly (because of child birth) and she is aware of that. I told her that her belly is soft and lovely to kiss. She is very responsive with touch and kiss. Unfortunately she dances every other Saturday as she is a full time mother (lucky father lol) but if you are in Taboo on a Saturday count your blessing if she is there as she is likely the best dancer you may have experienced ever in terms of looks, intimacy and openmindedness especialy if you present lots of greens. 3 - Review of Angel: I saw Angel on the stage and decided that I want her in the CR so actually I went to her and asked her for dances. Unfortunately I could have only 4 songs with her as I counted only 4 $20 bills in my wallet and I told her that and she was happy even so. She does have an angelic look (gothic looks) and she has a very cute face and body and will give you openminded dances. I recommend her for those who love all above, though emotionally she was a bit distant (no kissing on face except to say bye at the end. Great time in Taboo. Unfornately I had to leave as my wallet ordered me too and yes I had big smile on my face but sad that there were quite a few more lovely beautiful ladies there that my big brain (the one on the top of my shoulder) didn't permit me to stay and see. PS - Permission was sought from and granted by all three ladies reviewed above.

I arranged a date with Sophia for Saturday. Our great detective Cowboy sent me a link showing that Sophia is actually with an agency in Montreal. So, yesterday I email the advertisement links in Montreal BP to this Vixens agency asking for explanations and also mentioned about two fake pictures he had had in the past (documented in Cowboy's diary). This morning he got back to me saying that I am a cop (police!!!!!!!) and cancelled the appointment and he said noone would walk into my police trap volunterily!!. What a nonsense excuse to get out of it (I told him no payments will be made if the girl who shows up is not the one in pictures and will post about it) because I sent him a link to cerb and he knew I have reviewed hundreds of ladies and he knew I am outcall only and the date with Sophia too was as usual outcall so no laws would have been broken on either side. I think that any one or agency documented in Cowboy's diary would be good enough to stay clear. Unfortunately I am strong believer in second chances. I genuinely believed that they are going to bring over Sophia for me from Montreal and I thought that was why they have a minimum 2 hour appointment. At this time I cannot recommend this agency since they did not prove anything recommendable to me. If anyone else have had good experience with them please post.

They logged on to cerb October 17 (2 days ago) but decided not to respond to our posts or even PMs. Very strange!!!!!.

A few months ago I emailed them about Sophia's availability on a Saturday. I made it clear that the lady would be rejected without any payment if the one who will show up at my home is not the beautiful lady in the picture. They were very quick to respond (positive). They said that all their ladies including Sophia have prior engagement (booked for a party of some sort I think) for that weekend. I haven't contacted them again and am also interested in responses from those who have. May be I send them another email.... PS - Note the minimum 2 hour booking. Additional comments: They got back to me fast. Oh, I think he mentioned they are outcall only (fine with me). I also liked it when they refer to this possible arrangement as rendezvous (date). Makes us very compatible. You have to wait until the weekend lol as I am weekend hobbyist only. PS - I have clearly indicated that no payments will be made if B & S in case of Sophia (I remember reading about two of their ladies documented as B & S in Cowboy's diary, so the reason for my condition. Sophia was not documented). So here is a test for them lol.

If it is tax credit then it is the government who will be paying for it not individuals and if it is an added tax then many people will be screaming that they are paying enough taxes already. But really for less than the price of a coffee a day one can sponsor a child in a third word country and make a big difference in someone's life. What can be more satisfying than that. Again I encourage everyone to take the step and do so. It will be paid back may be not in tax credits but in satisfaction. Btw, you can deduct it from you taxes and get a good tax refund at the end. A lot of poor people are also in stable countries (yes those in military zones like somalia would be hard to get the aid to) but in Bangladesh where food and education is needed, south east asia (where young underage girls turn to prostitution out of poverty), central America and of course Africa where most of starvation is, and many other places. History has proven that capitalism works better than socialism. Eastern Europe is a good example of that. Socialism failed and that was because not only it was dictatorships but also because of bad economy which was no match for the west. When they came out of the socialism, they were all poor and their economy was ruined and buckled under the socialist systems, Russia, Romania, East Germany, former Soviet blocks as well as many others. If 50% of people in America pay 97% of taxes that means that there is an unfair wealth distribution in America. This kind of capitalism is bad and wrong and has to be dealth with. The gap is worse in third world countries and that is very bad capitalism and unfair too. We are all citizens of this planet and some may say God's children and have rights to own a proportionate part of the resources on this planet. One having tens of houses and millions in banks and wearing expensive jewerly and fur coats to show off (coming out of killing innocent defenceless animals) and the other also a citizen and starving or homeless is NOT fair and would lead to hate and political turmoil and revolurtions. True we cannot do much about the corrupt politicians, military dictators, human greed and lack of care, unfair distribution of wealth .... but we can do our share and help those aid organizations with small amount of dollars and get back lots of satisfaction. So, don't put it off to tomorrow cerbites. Do a half hour search for charities and aid organizations and choose the one to your liking and take 2 instead of three coffees (better for your health) and donate the difference to that organization and make a big difference in the life of another human being. Do it now cerbites.

Wow we have so much in common lovely Carley and ironically exact same reasons but for opposite sides of the debate lol (you having the same raeson for seeing incalls that I have for outcalls only!!!!!). And yes it is a date. They are guests in our homes/hotels and are treated like a prince (in your case) or princess(in my case). I spend about 2 to 4 hours for every hour of date in preparations lol and enjoy every minutes of it (preparations fun, anticipations, ..... all are part of outcalls). Wonder though if we can ever meet under these opposing circumstances lol :-). So similar and yet so far!!!!!.

Gabriella, first off I apologize if I offended you or anyone else with my post. That was never even remotely my intention. I never thought of incall/outcall debate as a touchy subject or (as I promised myself back in August) I would have stayed away from it completely. My explanations below may however shed some light and remove some of the mis-understandings from my earlier posts. My last statement (that you also quoted) says it all but I guess I should have placed it at the top lol!!! My comments were NOT directed at cerb SPs but incalls in general and yes mostly I see non-cerb SPs (I see ladies between 19 to 25) and that is my choice and therefore my comments regarding incalls are also general statements NOT directed at cerb SP's. The fact that we are debating the subject on cerb does not mean anything we say is related to cerb SPs. There is a much bigger world out there lol!!. Overwhelming majorioty of SPs are NOT on cerb lol, so again please do not take any comment personal. As shown below the OP is asking for comments related to incall vs. outcall and not specifically related to Gabriella L. or even cerb SPs..... Whether we should see non-cerb SPs or restrict ourselves solely to reputable cerb SPs, that is another debate just to say I believe in freedom of choice and love variety (and many other members do too). So, I was saying in my case outcall is safer. On the cleanliness side congratulations to you for doing all those changes/cleanings after everytime that you see a client then good for you and your clients. I am not sure that going through all those changes/cleanings is practiced by all SPs. You would have been right to be insulted by my comments on cleanliness if I had commented specifically about you or even cerb SPs in general. But you know that I didn't!!. Are you suggesting that ALL SPs do what you described after every client? What I meant was that in my bed never strangers (whether one or 10 guys) sleep in it. I did NOT place my standards above yours or anyone else's. I said if the bed is used by guys for sexual activities before me, then it is not up to my standards and this is the exact quote: And please note the last sentence. So in your case and all those who follow the same protocols, it is even over and above my standards since I don't change my bed every day lol!!!. As an example if you or someone else post that you/she prefers incalls for your/her reasons or would not see any client outcall for safety reasons (and this has been posted many times by many SPs) do I (and many other members who also see ladies outcalls or outcall only) take it personally and take offence saying that how could you say a thing like that and you called me unsafe and put us all in one box?? and start posting comments defending myself that I do this and that and therefore I am safe!!!!. Of course NOT because I know you would be making a general comment about few possible clients out of many which you don't wish to risk, and not every client is a cerb member and even so, everyone can join cerb lol and same is true for you or any other cerb SP who may have been offended by my general comments. Please read my posts/comments thoroughly and carefully before jumping to a conclusion or rushing an angry response (and this is not directed at you Gabriella but again a general statement as per my past posts....).

Members like Gentleman11 or the OP who find the discussion on Incall/Outcall interesting may like to know that we have had plenty of threads on the subject and may wish to refer to them: http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=4562&highlight=outcall http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=16604&highlight=outcall http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=28059&highlight=outcall http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=25973

I have travelled and used to attend conferences a lot and check in hotels a lot too. Even best hotels are not as bright and spacious as my own apartment (I checked into Albert at Bay in August as I had a guest at home and couldn't have outcall guest and it was a beautiful one bedroom suite but as dark as grave lol) plus the fact that I have lots of light to add to it when my own home. So that is how I know it. Also I never said all SP/MP incall locations are dark!!!. On the safety side I didn't say there is always someone hiding in a closet but the possibility is there. There are posts by members on both boards that when client wanting to break the appointment for legitimate reasons (like false advertisements, fake pictures) and leave then they were confronted by a guy suddenly coming out of nowhere. on the unclean side, There has been also posts by members on both boards complaining about unclean untidy messy places with fast food smelly boxes all over the place (specifically related to SPs from a well known agency in Ottawa). Obviously I don't know what percentage of incalls are like this as I haven't done it myself but it has happened and for a regular incaller sooner or later it will happen. Also a bed shared by 10 different guys every day having different kinds of sexual activities cannot be that clean lol or at least not clean enough to my standards especially if I am the 10th guy using it (unless one washes or changes the bed linens and everything else after each client leaves but very unlikely). The issue of date versus paid encounter has been discussed in length and I don't wish to bring back the debate however, though at the time many members (mostly SPs) opposed the idea of Date perception but nowadays some of the very same members/SPs are using the word DATE in their posts/ads to describe their encounter. if anyone wishes to perceive it as a paid encounter then by all means it is a free society lol!!. Above all please don't take my post personal. I was making a general statement about what could happen with incalls, including the legal risk, however I am sure most if not all incall locations used by cerb SPs are both clean and safe, though the legal aspect of it is still debatable.

As most know, I am outcall only. Apart from the fact that it is legal (and that is very important to me), also I have strong preference to be in my own space. I like to set the party like environment with lots of light, non-alcoholic drink, chocolates and music and feel like it is a Date (rendezvous) rather than a paid encounter. Visiting a lady in some dark hotel room or run down apartment is not my style. Outcalls is also safer (for me) and I know nobody is hiding in any of my closets lol with a knife or something. Not to mention that I know exactly who has used my bedroom and bed (no bugs there) lol as using another person's bed or a bed shared by many others is not my style either.

There are enough resources for everyone on this planet so that everyone can eat and have a roof above. The reason as why so many are starving and diseased is because there is a small minority (about 1% of planet's populations who own 80% of total wealth and have tens of millions in bank accounts and houses and jewerly and want even more and 10% of planet population who have more than they need, about 30% just enough and the remaining buttom 50% population (having exact same things, that is two hands, two legs, one heart, one brain....) having absolutely nothing (starving and homeless). I read somewhere that the food that North Americans and Europeans throw away in a year can feed well hungry stomachs for a year. Yes I agree it is mostly political problem. Damn dictators backed by military and thugs coming to power by force and got themselves rich by corruption and stealing from the nation and they don't care less about their population. In fact they wish to keep them in poverty and illiterate so that they don't know about their rights as a citizen lol. Also the fact that their brains flee their country to the rich lands lol. In my view the problems are unfair distribution, greediness (human nature) and political corruption and lack of care by those who are among the haves about have nots. Yes they need our help (DOLLARS) rather than sympathy but threads like this also brings awareness about world problems and is great. There are organizations who are trying to help. If every person in the rich countries donate as little as 2% of their annual income to international charities and aid organizations then it may really help to reduce disease and poverty. They also try their best to make sure that most of the money is well spent and goes to those who really need it rather than the fat PIGS ruling those countries to get even fatter. I have faith in world Vision (they are other organizations too) and encourage anyone to do their own research and do their part to help out with dollars rather than sympathy. As they say Tears are not enough anymore... These organizations send young kids to school and assist their poor families rather than buying them food for a while. Teach them how to fish so that they fish for lifetime, so to speak, rather than catching fish for then for a few days.

I had heard good words about Gigi and ALLD seems out of action for not sure what reason, so I decided to call for Gigi from Candyland. The gent on cerb was very nice and effective in arranging the appointment and the driver very polite to bring her over to my place and I received Gigi on time. My first impression was that likely she is at least about 10 to 20 years above the advertised age (as most know I see ladies between 19 to 25 and she was by 10 to 15 years above my age threshold lol). Anyway she was very very friendly and made it hard to reject. The quality of the lady in terms of looks was however nothing like previous Candyland girls. Also unless there has been big advances in photo industry I am not sure about the authenticity of pictures displayed of her especially the ones on BP. She is good on service side and offers physical aspects of GFE. Her services included all those listed as GFE with a touch of PSE and she is very very talkative. She is also looking for a date to show her around the city, however I passed on the opportunity as I said she is way above my age preference for dating. The great thing about her was that she was unshaven and that made the encounter 10 times more fun (that is the main and likely only reason I call for oriental girls) and she satisfied me 100% in that department. Her boobs are nice too. She is recommended for those who like middle age asian ladies and/or have special attraction to natural ladies (both kitty and boobs) with GFE services and who like to converse for hours in broken English....She will be in Ottawa for another week or two.