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Happy birthday and my best wishes to you Peachka. Enjoy your special day.

No unfortunately I haven't heard from the Natural Princess this year. I know she was from somewhere up north who came to Ottawa last winter to escape the cold up there and I was hoping that she does the same this winter but regretfully so far I have no news (-. I wished I had better news for you sime. Sorry.

And I am the lucky second. Happy birthday meg and my best wishes to you.

Happy birthday Old Dog and many happy returns.

Well said roamingguy, even though you may have meant it as humorous. Canada may have cold winters but she also have warm hearts and that is what counts the most. No complains here lol.

This is very true, we all have our own (different) moral standards depending on our beliefs and how we are raised. My moral standard is for example NOT to be involved with a married woman or a lady in a relationship, knowingly. Some may laugh at me for having this standard but that is my stanadard and it belongs to me. Now yours is not to have her child around when you see an SP (and I understand and possibly relate to that though I have seen a number of single mothers but never with their children around when we party) and that is your standard and it belongs to you and likely shared by others too. Nothing to be apologagic for quick25, in my view. Well said alexiss, I agree. As always very sweet and considerate meg. Well stated.

Actually I have to clarify my statement above. I was looking through my own window. I was very happy and fulfilled with friendship, partying/dancing, sharing lunch, socializing at the dorms/schools/classrooms. The requirements for my fulfillment did not include sex at that time. I now notice that the OP may have a different requirement than I used to have at the time. So, I take back the suggestion/statement, though I remember many students in relationships. On another issue (asked by OP but likely not so far responded) : I am no lawyer but if you don't have a criminal record and caught first time, the penalty is not likely a criminal record but you may qualify to pay a fine to cover the cost of what is called "Johns' school" where you have to attend for a week or so). However, You will have a record which may likely ruin your life, if you are already charged with same crime before, or have criminal record. This is to the best of my knowledge but as I said I am NOT a lawyer and I could be wrong.

Very fast and I really like the new look of "Top 10 Stats" which includes more info quantatively and qualitatively. Great job!!!

You are correct SamanthaEvans in this regard and this is one law that should be changed, however, it is not any more illegal than doing incalls. There may be a way around this one though. I am not a lawyer but I think that the bodyguard does not have to be a paid employee but rather a friend who may receive gift for her kindness. If you feel strongly against having a bodyguard then my advice is strongly against doing outcalls at all (hotels or place of residence) without someone watching over you for the reasons that Megan and others have said, unless you know the gent very well. My 2 cents.

You are a student and you can meet female students relatively easy in university social events, parties and classrooms/labs. That was how I did when I was student lasting 10 years with little money. If you have to meet escorts, it doesn't take that much to book a relatively inexpensive hotel for one night (search for special deals, check sites like hotwire.com and book well in advance for cheaper rates) or even a motel. This way you will relax as you feel comfortable that what you do is not illegal and can enjoy your time. Incalls are illegal but it is very low risk unless a complain is made (noise, heavy traffic) or drugs are involved. I don't do it myself so I can't advise it to another person except giving you the facts that it is illegal but very low risk.

Not sure about all the details of the case' date=' but if I recall correctly that was outcall to a hotel not place of residence. And she called the driver and the driver did not intervene!!!. It may have been a lot worse, God forbid, if it was incall as the beast may have been restrained by the fact that a driver was downstairs. [b']It was a wrong type of guy, not a wrong type of call which led to this tragedy[/b], in my view. I think you are right' date=' they are such cases but these unfortunate cases are NOT limited to outcalls. Likely some are incall cases too. In my view ladies visiting outcall for the first time must always have someone on the watch (this is always my advice to the ladies that I see) and the driver should be more than a driver but also a bodyguard. I also advise them to join cerb and limit themselves to cerbites, and check the gent that they wish to see (his profile) and cross-reference the gent with other providers that he has seen. [b']There are always risks involved in any activity (especially in this industry) but one can try to minimize the risks by taking certain common sense precautions[/b]. As I mentioned iin my earlier post after reading this thread I am no longer a firm believer that outcalls are relatively safer than incalls, unless the lady knows the guy well. This thread was educational.

Very interesting thread and educational too. Thanks Roamingguy for starting the thread. I think that this feeling is shared by many others like yourself. Very often a very first comment that I hear when my guests enter my apartment (the first timers) is that "I have set up a very nice place ...." and they appear very happy... I considered this option (to get a private place exclusive for inviting guests) but found it very expensive. The best I could find was a furnished one bedroom (had to be for minimum two nights) at around $250 per weekend ($1000 per month) as when I started the hobby I was a bit paranoid about being stalked (happened a couple of times with dancers but never happened with escorts) and possible harassment/blackmail since at the time I didn't know about the legality of outcalls. Spending that much on renting' date=' not a lot of money would have left for hobbying lol!!. I agree completely. I think another advantage of outcall is that the lady can easily leave (or call her driver for help if in danger) if she finds the environment unsafe or feels not comfortable. This termination option (kicking the persistent or drunk or worse ..client out of incall location) may not be as easy, unless she has someone hiding in the closet or nearby (very rare, I guess). It appears though that most responses are either for incall hotel or outcall hotel, or incall to a non-residence so far. I think that I have been so far the only one with strong preference for outcall place of residence but it was good to read a variety of responses as I always thought outcalls are safest for both sides. Not anymore.

I was responding about MY preferences (from hobbyist's point of view) in regards to incall versus outcall asked in the original post of the thread. Likely my answer may have been different if I was responding from a service provider's point of view. It is likely that I have very rarely ended up on the lower side of YMMV, even when I was seeing ladies from CL (I love variety) and the recent new sites, I have had a 90%+ hit and that is likely because of all preparations that I do for the incoming dates. I don't wish to sound selfish as lady's preferences in environment is important to me too, however, I would question your suggestion of spending time (and likely exchanging many emails or PMs to find out what the lady likes) as I am not sure many ladies have time or wish many detailed exchanges for an hour of encounter (or what I consider a date). Your suggestion may apply to extended companionship focused types of dates (extending over several hours) which in my view are very rare but not sure in many other types of dates, a lady would like to invest lots of time to get the environment right to her liking for the hour long date. As I mentioned my main criterion for choosing outcall over incall is the fact that outcalls are LEGAL and that is very important to me. And I have no worries about ladies' safety, at least not when they visit me. I have lost the chance to see a few ladies in the past because of my outcall-only restriction, however, this is a choice that I made to feel safe (legally and otherwise) and I plan to adhere to this policy strictly.

Yes I agree with you Megan that in extreme cases outcall to place of residence is not safe, however, it is a fact that outcall to place of residence is legal and the lady has the opportunity to call the police in case of assault and the gent knows that. But yes it can happen in outcalls but also it can also happen with incalls as the wrong guy can always bring concealed weapons to the incall place too (except that most ladies may not call the police as incall is illegal. Also there is no driver watching out in incalls), though his pictures would be in the hotel cameras which is a detterant. Some places of residences have cameras too (mine included) It is always safe (when meeting a gent for the first time) to have someone watching over (a driver, a friend) and I always advise this to the ladies that I see. I have never had problems seeing any lady that I wished to see outcall (except those who are strickly incall only. i.e not having a driver), so your feeling may not be shared by many others. I do agree that visiting someone unknown for the first time in a drug infested areas of the city may not be safe. As a final note it is a preference, a choice and a lady's (and gent's) right to choose what she or he feels safest. In my case not breaking the law is the most important factor in my consideration and I know it as a fact that the visiting lady will be 100% safe in my place and I have had many repeats, some coming alone, all by themselves and leaving with big smiles, asking for a call back, so I have no worries in that regard either.

Well you asked for input from hobbyists as well. So, I express my views which I strongly believe and stick to: I prefer an outcall to the place of residence. There are many advantages to this, in my view. 1 - It is safe for the lady (obviously the gent will be careful as not only his identity but his full address is known too). 2 - I can set the environment to my liking. I like party-like environment with flashing light, large screen TV and bottle of red wine and a very bright bedroom and clean large comfortable bed. 3 - Love to treat ladies as guests and dates. Outcall to a hotel (or visiting a lady in a hotel) does NOT give me the having a "Date" feeling. 4 - I do get the opportunity from time to time to give a ride to the ladies I see back to their place or hotel and hence I spent more time with them (though in the car, but still....). 5 - Outcall to place of residence (your place of residence is NOT considered a common bawdy house) is totally legal so I will be relaxed and feel comfortable and in case of an extreme case (i.e. harassment or stalking) one can always call LE. PS - Obviously this option is not open to those not single or in a relationship or live with family or GF. As a nice gesture, the gent should cover the transportation cost for the visiting lady if not included (as some have same donation for outcall/incall).

Happy that you have your lost love back in your life and best wishes to you castle.

The place I moved to!!!. I am not sure where that is Megan??. I practically stopped going to SCs 3 years ago, when I switched to escorts in early 2008 (except summer times I go to Barbs, Pigale and Taboo and Playmates only a few times when I have a summer visitor and therefore I can't have guests at my home). I like to know which of above bars are doing all that to their ladies and I will definitely boycott them too. Please PM me if you have to. Thanks for intel Megan. I think we (clients, hobbyists) can do our share and push the industry in the right direction by boycotting those bars, agencies, p***ps that do evil to their ladies or clients lol. This has always been my policy and have boycotted quite a few of all above already. My view anyways.

Cabaret Canada: I used to go there frequently many years ago as one of my most favorite dancers was dancing there. Yes driving an hour or so to get there and back as I had to see her every weekend. It wasn't that bad then, as about 10+ dancers some very pretty both Fridays and Saturdays and many customers too. I found out about the bad treatment of the ladies, heavy fines and some other evil stuff that disgusted me, I boycotted that place 6-7 years ago and never went back (my favorite dancer moved to another bar too) soon after. I am kind of glad to hear the place is so down. They (the management) have only themselves to blame for what happened to them.

Cerbites please join me in congratulating a very valued member and a cerbite friend with full integrity and honesty and courage, "whatsup" for reaching his 1000th post. I have enjoyed reading all your posts whatsup and look forward to reading many thoudands more valuable posts. Thanks for your valuable contributions and for being here on cerb as your presence and posts make cerb a much better place to be.

You may wish to PM her. She is here on cerb as Ann66R. I am not sure that she is always available in Ottawa though. I think she visits Ottawa on occasions. PS - I can't remove the rating part even when I uncheck the box!!!.

One (and only) Secret Admirer, and many open admirers :D.

Great addition. Thanks OutForFun. It would be my pleasure to add the pictures for you Angel and Dorinda. Great suggestions, thanks both: Megan Fox: Olivia Munn: Penelope Cruz Olivia Wilde: Sandra Bullock: Kate Blanchette: Drew Barrymore: Marrisa Tomei:

All very nice suggestions. Okay I do it for you Monica Bellucci: Jennifer Connelly is my favorite too and a picture already included in the OP, but as pretty as she is, a second picture would be nice too. And this is for OutForFun and Maverick: Many thanks both. Great favorites: Natalie Portman: Mila Kunis: Emma Roberts: