Capital Hunter

Thanks for your great contributions and very fair and thoughful posts etasman. I very much enjoy reading your posts. they are impartial, wise and thoughtful. Look forward to another 1000 of them!!

In real life my handle on cerb reflects my personality. I love admiring ladies and buying them gifts to make them feel good and appreciated and have done so very frequently in my life. As well very often admiring ladies in secret without them knowing the source as in my view and how I was raised and in my culture ladies are sources of lives and hence deserve our full respect and admiration without whom none of us would have been here in this world. Secret Admirer

Today for the first time a lady took me to the new ground floor CR. It looks nice but completely open and dark. I went upstairs so that if a lady approaches me, it would be only an upstairs CR lol!!. I guess my concept of a private dance is a dance in a private CR and likely so because I am used to the concept of pre open CR days when it used to be like that. Yes I was spoiled lol. Nuden was kind of quiet (likely because of long weekend) and I saw only 5 or 6 ladies. I left within the hour, may be less. The only attractive lady was the waitress lol who was very cute, smiling and very friendly but beyond reach!!

First off, thank you Angela for the info and attached links. They seem to have lady friends in Ottawa too. But I couldn't find anything about the rate lol. I don't know how real it is. But if it is for real, that would be great for me (and likely many others too). Because sometimes I want a companionship only (intimacy is important too but not always) that I can spent many hours with a lady friend over a dinner or watch TV or dance but not necessarily intimacy. However, I like variety and that is my reason for the hobby rather than picking a GF lol. Something that could cost me thousands (and I can't affort) with escort ladies. If as you say their rate is more affordable, and they offer what I sometimes look for (dinner, dancing, kissing, companionship), then it would be great. Lets hope that it is for real. Only time will tell. This is likely more like pay for date concept that I perceive than pay for sex. But for now I rather sit back and watch how it developes.

Ahh ... Thanks very much for the tip shymale. I got to see the movie then. Good to know. For a while I was scratching my head!!!!, Cheers.

Leo and Lea go to school!!??:confused:. I for one don't find it very romantic!!!! and am confused too by the suggestion. Am I missing something here lol? :confused:.

That is good move. I hope they are funstional. I should check it out. Thanks for the update Skidman. I used to go to Cloepatra in Montreal where they had the privacy curtains and it was great. It was possible to receive true private dances.

I don't like to see the use of vulgar or sexually explicit language in an ad. I click on the close (X) button immediately. I very much prefer that the escort acronyms to be used instead (i.e Daty instead of eating p**** or FS or sex or love making rather than f***), but that is me and I could be in minority. Happens on CL, more often that I care for lol!!!.

Congrats to the new Elite member, T'storm!!!.

Yes I know. I am here on cerb to discover Ottawa treasures lol ;).

Yes Karina, I can't wait to see this super cutie doll (Vicky) again this weekend:). I need to practice my French ;). Vicky's Secret Admirer.

A very happy birthday to you Tracey and I wish many many more happy birthdays for you.

Yes you did the right thing Christina. I first saw your post here, so I thought by mistake you posted here after I saw your name and picture. So, I first commented that you may have posted in the wrong thread. If so, then please also post in the other thread. Then I realized you have already. But we can no longer delete our posts here on cerb, so I edited it to above comment. Great story btw. Thanks for sharing.

I see that you posted also in the other thread Christina (I thought you posted or voted in this thread by mistake).

Sorry Karina. I mis-read your writing, my bad .... My reputation comment should have said "Great example of love and affection with a client with best sex". I can not edit a rep comment (not that I know of). Regardless, good on you Karina. Sorry about my mis-understanding lol. It is great to read the two threads and see the poll results that so many cases of love and affection materializes between hobbyists and service providers in real life (so far 60% of respondents on hobbyist's side and 40% of respondents on the service provider's side). To be honest even I am taken by surprise with the result to be so high percentagewise!!!. Thanks Origin for starting the threads.

Glad you had great time with Vicky too shymale and thanks for the added recommendation. Isn't she a total doll and a cutie. Can't wait for the weekend to see her again:D.

Another great creative initiative by a valued cerb member!!!. Though I am not travelling myself outside of the country but thanks Cato for your continued great contributions

On that we agree. Have a great day.

It is my understanding that the lady herself has to pay for the hotel cost as well as the usual fee to the agency. I have had ladies (whom I saw after they became independent) who used to work for a busy agency (so they claim) and they told me some nights they actually lost money because they had to pay for hotel and did not have even one client. They also have to pay extra for driver's fee (I believe another $20 on the top of agency fee). The SP herself can take calls and advertise on various sites. Having said all that I think that many prefer the agency because they don't wish to bother with all time consuming arrangements described above. Again it comes to individuals' (ladies') choice and preference. Additional Comments: To be honest a comparison of the quality between Cerb and CL came as a shock to me as well as the fact that my comments were somehow taken out of context. I too apologize if I sounded upset earlier Annessa.

I think that you are confused from my post Annessa. I said that the benefits that SPs on cerb get by being on cerb is equivalent to the benefits that an agency may provide for their SPs (or in my view more for cerb SPs) BUT FOR FREE. How could that be what you described!!!. Comparing the content and quality of Cerb with CL!!!!!. I have no comment on that one. I didn't know there is a comparison to make lol. Excuse me!!!!.

Help me out here as I am confused. I mean how much it cost to be represented by an agency. A lady provider pays anywhere between $50 to $70 PER HOUR of work and in return the agency finds the clients for her and to some extend provides the safe environment, likely by checking out the client (so they claim). Well doesn't cerb do all that??. The free advertisements on cerb finds classy clients (an EC-cerb combo finds many more) and provides the safe environment (most cerbites except newbies can be cross-referenced by those SPs who have seen them, not to mention that cerbite's entire history (potential client) and his posts can be easily checked. Not to mention the SP private area where unsafe encounters are documented) and it cost less than an hour of pay to an agency to advertise for one month on EC. So excuse me for not understanding lol!!!!. Many of independents used to work for an agency and used to pay the hafty fees and a few same ladies don't want to contribute to the site that does all that and more that an agency used to do for them before, in return for what used to be one hour of the fee that they used to pay to an agency, and now as indie to advertise for one month on EC. This may leave the impression that all the goods of cerb are taken for granted by a few. My impression, not my view. I hope I am wrong.

I could add one more name I met recently and that is Vicky20. Now she is a small girl and likely qualifies for spinner but not skinny. Refer to her recent reco, if interested.

In a wide (and true) definition, service providers include dancers, escorts and masseuses, so, yes I have fallen in love with service providers (I have fallen in love with three dancers but not escorts and I have not seen masseuses). So I voted yes.

I can't even begin to understand how is that related to me (since you quoted my post in your post). The box of chocolate is always a small present for the lady to take with her!!!. It is symbolic and its intention is to feel her welcomed and her time and presence appreciated. She is a precious person (not piece of meat), a guest and a princess (and she is my date in my home my preference and my choice what to call it) and is always treated like one. On one recent date I had, the lady forgot her box of chocolate, so as I was driving her home, in the middle of the way I turned back to my home to picked up the box (she was very sad and disappointed about forgetting her present) and she was very happy that I did. They are always happy to see this extra treatment lol. Again a choice, and it is mine. Additional Comments: As others have said it correctly, the word "date" is a perception and an individual's choice and as I have said it before we have a healthy community with diverse views and perceptions who have the rights to hold their views and freedom to express it without fear. As Seymour said it very well, many have hired escorts for non-sexual activities (one example being myself). I have invited ladies (including escorts) when we had danced or had dinner together only. Not to everyone sex is the centerpoint of encounter. Companionship and passion is important too. In fact I remember one middle age dancer told me thatwhen escorting started, in its earlly days it was only dating (dinner and dancing) and only later it included sex (true or false I don't know) and recently became a requirement for some. I do like to make it clear though (as I have said it before) by using the perception of date, i do NOT mean for free (I thought I have been here long enough for people to know me better). Ladies' time must be fully compensated and more. We must accept diversity (of views and perceptions) if we want to maintain our healthy community. Again my view. I fully accept the view of those who prefer to view the encounter different to mine (ours) and fully respect their views (to hold and express) and expect same for our side of views.

WOW:shock:, the "date" perception is gathering momentum past couple of months:). Glad to see that:D. I would place an envelope over a box of chocolate and say "this is a gift for your time and the joy you are about to give me with your companionship".