Capital Hunter

Oh I am there already:D. Wow, I didn't know, thank you so much. Cheers

I am really touched by all these kind remarks. Thank you so much Whatsup for the thread and thank you each and all very much for your kind comments. Yes I am almost there. It is a pleasure to be here on cerb and enjoy the company of all you great friends. Yes Seymour I am in the mood for brunettes today, unless my mood changes by this afternoon. I take the one in the picture anytime :-). Have a great weekend everyone and thanks again very much for kind comments.

Yes I LoveTheGirls too, but apart from that we also share the unshaven fetish and I thought I am alone too in this strong attraction until one day I conducted a poll (on another site) and found out that 20% of all men share this unshaven (natural) ladies. http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=4985&highlight=unshaved http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=20411&highlight=unshaven Unfortunately it is very hard to find a natural lady these days (damn Playboy) but if you like oriental ladies then you are in luck. They are mostly unshaven.

I am now all totally confused!!!. All humans react same to the virus. The virus does not discreminate based on race, color or continent. So, excuse me for not getting it at the first place (likely there is a mis-communication here too!!??). BTW, Both trials in my attached link, were sponsored by the US National Institutes of Health. And the reason the research was conducted in Africa was because unfortunately that is the continent where most unprotected sex takes place because of lack of education on prevention and likely also unavailability of preventive means. And also attaching a link was relevant to the thread because we were asked to comment on pros and cons and that was what I did And the link was a back up for my comment. And so was the copy and paste from a certain link in your post #39 was a backup for your counter-comment. The advantage for the link is to provide the option to the readers to open and view it but only if they so wish.

Pete, I viewed it as hostile (I did not say attack either) because you appear to be saying that since I am circumcized (which btw, was not my choice) then I don't belong to this continent!!!. Or those who are supportive of the view (myself not included), do not either. Also you asked me to dream on for just posting a medical article and apparently made fun of my research ability (BTW, I have a doctorate degree. Granted not in medical science but in engineering (yes from this continent) but nevertherless I have proven to be quite capable of conducting research). All above aside, I was shocked to be criticized for something that I really do NOT have an opinion, one way or another and to be honest if I want to express a view, I would say that leave it to the boy to grow up and decide for himself what to do with his body. I posted a link and I am confident that the readers can (if they wish) read it and make their own conclusions and you Pete, respectfully, if you wished, you could counter it by posting a counter- link (so to speak) as you did later (likely copied and pasted from a link) in your second respond (post #39) but you could have done it in your original response (#37) instead of (likely) making fun of my research abilities lol.

Good Lord!!!. I am not sure or frankly can't even begin to understand the reason for such a (apparently) hostile reaction on a friendly board like this from a valued member!!!!. First of all I said I am neutral on the topic and expressed the result of something that I have read on many occasions since I carried out research on STD transmission for months before deciding on the hobby to minimize hiv/std transmission (and I can post many more links) and I thought I share it as I (we) were asked to share in the thread. It is not really an important subject to me to get emotional over!!!. In This continent too lots of boys/men are circumcised and circumscision is is not limited to another continent, world or planet or those who believe are not necessarily foreigners or alliens either!!!. Assuming those who do are not (normal or good) North Americans is not right. I never realized it is such an important hot topic or I wouldn't have posted about something that I couldnt care really one way or another. BTW, if I have a boy one day, likely I will not circumcise him. When he is of age, he can decide for himself. It is his body lol.

I am not coming down on either side of the debate as I believe it is the decision for the legal guardian to make, however, I have read that based on substantial research, the chances for sexually transmitted diseases are significantly less in circumcised men, not to mention that it is easier to maintain a good hygiene over there. One of many articles: http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/63744.php

Thanks for your comments and assurances Cato and Kubrickfan. Highly appreciate it. Have to decide between escorts and SCs by tomorrow afternoon depending on my mood. Being in a brunette mood right now (may change by tomorrow), I am tentatively thinking of one or two brunette escorts!!!. If not tomorrow, may drop by next weekend though. Thanks again.

Heather Carolin for me for sure. Very surprised that she is behind in the poll!!!!!. May be because I like more like younger cute ladies?.

While at Playmates last weekend and revealed my plan for a visit to Barbs, I was told that recently they have cameras in the CRs in that bar. Anyone been there recently to verify or deny this?. If true, then this won't be exactly the private dance that I pay for and may change my plans for a visit to Barbs.

I used to take pictures of my private escorts/dancers that I used to see on a regular basis (with their full knowledge and approval and even couple of cases their suggestion), however, I was never asked to pay for any of them (may be because they were all private SPs and the pictures were for my own eyes only). Suggestion - If you see someone in private or see one on a regular basis, suggest the idea to her. One word of caution (as I made this mistake myself). Put the pictures in a private album for your own eyes only (I displayed a few of them in my bedroom (only I see my bedroom lol but.....) so that I can see them and be reminded of them and feel with them 24/7 (my bad.....though with their approval to put them there but still a mistake, because..) and the word got around by a few visiting SPs of certain agency who obviously clearly broke the very important confidentially rule of this business. I removed them and put them in an album lol. I advise you do same from beginning.

To summarize it, her picture is real and she is cute and GFE (as usual YMMV). I have PMed you Chechman with other details.

Thank you very much r__d for the kind comments. Thanks also for the tip on Vanessa and Heaven. Next time I am there, I should check both out for sure (I don't think they were there last Saturday ). Yes, Jessica (with glasses) is one of my favorites. I know her for about 6-7 years and I swear that she gets younger and prettier every year. If you happen to see her soon, please pass my best regards to her from her Secret Admirer. Cheers.

Capitalman you have a talent to make a debate personal !!!!. I meant more money if they could keep the money they hard earn for themselves instead of paying $25, $35, $45 or $55 to someone who makes so much out of highly over-priced drinks (club owners), but I guess you knew that already lol. We all go to SCs for these ladies not the DJ or club owners. Without them clubs will have to be closed. So, it is only fair to my mind if they are actually been paid for working there rather than having to pay so that those who may not make much money in this compatitive business (likely based on lack of dancing skills and possibly model like looks too, regardless there are some who don't make as much for whatever reason) would make money regardless. Cleopatra in Montreal actually pays the dancers and it is the only bar that I know still swampt with both dancers and customers lol. So should all SCs, in my view. My concern is not for those who make 3-400 + but for those who do not or hardly any lol. In above scenario everyone leaves home with money and happy to come back or go on stage while there, and there would be more dances, more frequent stage shows, more customers show up (and less bored customers) and more money for the clubs. Everyone would be a winner. I think the reason SCs have gone down is only partly due to no-smoking and open CR (and internet escorts) bylaws but also the fact that contrary to before (in the 90's) there are a lot less frequent stage shows. Customers get bored and leave. My 2 cents on that.

Enjoy it I am and I will:D. Where on earth will this happen (may be in heaven) that a semi nude beautiful lady, likely half my age will come to me asking me to take her back private so that she can get undressed just for me for nude contact lol?. In an strip bar lol:D. I just wished that those ladies who are giving me/us so much joy were making more money.

Well I stand corrected. Obviously your word is a direct say and mine is just a hearsay. I used to be regular there between 2001 to 2006 and may be it was different then but very unlikely that the fee would have actually come down in time. Additional Comments: True if it was applicable to all dancers. I believe that yes there are some who make 3-400 + then 60 dollars in club fee is no big deal but not everyone makes that much (especially past 2-3 years have been really bad for some dancers) and that is my whole point. But the club fee is applied equally to everyone. If there has to be a club fee then I believe it is fairer if it will be a percentage of dancers' income rather than a fixed amount but if as Megan said it is only $25 then it is not a big deal really but $60 is a big deal for many if so true in some SCs. I believe that the club is making enough money from selling drinks 3-4 times the price that they should be able to pay off expenses and still make a big profit without charging the ladies, but again I never managed an SC lol (last week a small bottle of wine, not first class wine cost me $17 lol).

Again I say that based on what I have been told. At Barbs if dancer starts before 7:00 pm it is $40 club fee and after 9:00 or 10:00 pm it is $60 club fee. Have you danced at Barbs?. That place was my favorite SC for many years, but obviously only a dancer who has worked there can verify this, or deny it.

I agree. She does and she is back to cerb and SPing:D.

It is my understanding that club fees can be as high as $60 per shift. In a bar with a large number of (some beautiful) dancers it is hard for the other some to get many dances. so they may be some truth to at least some of those cases. in one particular club, dancers have to pay heavy fines too (for a simple reason like being late or leaving early). I don't believe anyone would take a dancer to CR for charity or a feeling of saving the girl. It is a business transaction. If I get a girl to CR that is because I like her and spending time with her. In my case of course inner beauties are as important (if not more) than the outer one as my stamp says lol.

Of course I am not qualified to make a judgement/assessment on house/club fees Megan, but in all these years I have been told by many dancers that they hate that. Good on you if for reasons stated you are supportive. Please note that not many (or not every) dancers are making $100 an hour. I have seen many cases that a poor girl in an SC comes to me complaining about this and asking (virtually pleading to me) to take her to CR so that she can pay off her club fee (tens may be hundreds of cases over the past 10 years). They tell me they have been working for hours and haven't make any money and are tired and want to go home but the club (or DJ) won't allow them because they haven't made enough money to pay off the fee. My heart goes out to these dancers. That is why I seem negative in my post about club fees. I am very surprised to read about club fee as percentage of dances. To my knowledge (again I am not qualified) based on what I have been told by many dancers it is a fixed fee. For example at Barbs it is between $40 to $60 depending on what time the dancer starts.

Actually I didnt think that. I was just giving a general perspective of facts about private dances (in my view are facts). A very true song that likely applies to outside CRs too: Don't worry about clubs. They make money all right. Not only they charge poor dancers trying to make a living (and they charge cover after 6:00 pm) but mostly they make lots of money by selling booze 3-4 times the price they buy it.

Very true indeed. SPs have a (private) life too. Lets respect that.

Yes there can be a fixed rate (for some, I would say most). Rate varies between individuals who offer fix rate. If you wish to attract classy dancers whom you meet in SCs to your home for private dancing, then you have to earn their trust. You have to invest plenty of money and time to do that. You have to prove that: You are a nice trusty gent. You are safe You do not push their boundaries (usually, almost always (classy) dancers do not get engage in sex) You can afford them You are reasonably good looking, clean, drug free, with class You are not with LE You have a nice clean home in a relatively good neighborhood. Yes sometimes it takes less time and energy to pick up in a dance bar (disco) lol. After you have proven yourself and earned their trust then you may be in a good position to invite them home for private dances. Sometimes (not always) once one or two dancers (in a particular SC) danced for you and she left your home happy and a lot richer, then the word may get around (dancers talk in private with their close friends in the changing rooms) then you will be labelled as a nice safe gent and you will be even asked if you wish to have private dances. I said sometimes because most dancers would prefer to keep it a secret between you and them as if the word gets around as Megan said, the dancer may get into trouble with other dancers and once other dancers gang up on her then they can make the club a hell for her and she will later gets into trouble with the club itself. If you had luck with your favorite dancer, my advice is to let her know exactly what your requirements are and how much she will be compensated (as a gift) for her time and companionship. Keep it private (do not brag about it to other dancers or friends as you will get them into trouble. It is okay to make a general statement that you have private dances in other clubs but do not reveal their stage or real names). I have had very good success with escorts (that on saw on CL) to bring them over to cerb but almost total failure with dancers for the very true reasons that again Megan pointed out very well. In the past two years I could bring only two dancers to cerb and they just registered without advertising or participating.

Spain Scored:D ... YAEH. Spain 1 Germany 0 Only 15 minutes to go Additional Comments: - Match just ended Spain was a much better team than Germany and if it wasn't for the idiot selfish Spanish Player (Pedro) it would have been 2 to 0 in favor of Spain). Spain will defeat Netherland:). So, I am almost there in my original prediction.

Came home early just for this. Very exciting first half. Hope Spain wins (I predicted Spain will win the world cup in 2010).