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Yes, skirt for ladies is declared the winner BIG time. Ladies please note:).

1 - To be able to go back in time and fix things (for example I saw a movie where a female police officer found a time machine and went back in time and got rid of mass murderer/rapists . Before they commit the crimes and therefore saved many young ladies that in real time were hurt and killed. what a great job). 2 - T have the supernatural power of attraction so that by a look can attract ladies so that they all fall in love with me. Yes I have seen a movie on this one too.

Big lead for skirts:-). I am with you half the way Newton, but for me there is sooooo much fun/joy/pleasure to pull up the skirt and see the thin white see-through underwear and slowly and surely pull down the underwear and see bit by bit (from top to the end) the (hopefully trimed but not shaven) beautiful soft moist sweet kitty. Sometimes I forget breathing lol while doing this!!!. I get the woody by just thinking of that lol. BTW, so far a Twenty to Five lead in favor of skirts. Yeahh. I am not alone but in majority. Wonder why a big majority of ladies wear pants lol!!!!. Likely because it is more comfortable or protection against cold (and wind).

Actually, I was in Taboo couple of weeks ago, on a Saturday afternoon and had dances with quite a few young (not MILF) attractive ladies with relatively good mileage, including an Ebony by the name of Ladyclass. May be you should try a Saturday daytime lol. I know my Russian favorite is there only Saturdays till 6:00 pm. See my review of the Taboo ladies who danced for me.

I have a strong attraction to (mini) skirt wearing ladies (especially in a windy day, just kidding lol:)). No seriously it really turns me on. I think it makes the lady a lot more feminine and sexier. That is what I like most about summer as lots of ladies wear skirts in public. This could be from childhood memories where and when I was born it was a fashion for younger ladies to wear mini skirts. I was praying for the wind lol. Even now, whenever I call for ladies I ask for this possibility (for them to wear a skirt, preferably a mini one. Could it be a childhood fascination still with me or are there few, some or many gents out there who share my fascination with (mini) skirts for the ladies (no I don't like scotland lol:), only ladies wearing skirts).

I saw a sexy young (East) Indian lady at Playmates on Saturday afternoon Skidman. I didn't have dances with her so don't know about her mileage but she looked sexy, busty relatively tall and young. If you were asking about native ladies, there used t be quite a few very sexy native ladies at Playmates. Not sure if they are still there but were absent last Saturday or they have quit. There is a native lady named Charlie (tall and very slim) who used to be at Playmates but I believe she is at Silver dollar now (that is what I was told). There is/was another very sexy very cute very tall very naturally tanned very very friendly native lady at Playmates who has been there for many years. She too was absent last Saturday (I visited Playmates for the first time in almost two yaers). Sorry can't remember her name. Playmate regulars help us out here with her name.

. No, I agree. I think you are right whatsup . I think as usual we end up paying even more taxes.

Not sure if the OP asking from health risk point of view only, because there are several risk factors involved with hobbying. Since the OP asking about "when everything is safe?", then I give a comprehensive response to the original question. 1 - Health factor - Well hugging and cuddling is safe for sure. Also based on my extensive research kissing (DFK and Daty not Dato) is relatively very very safe for both sides too (depending on our risk tolerence levels. They are within my risk tolerence levels). BBJ, CIM, COB not safe for either side but very low risk (still outside my risk tolerence level). Needless to say it must be CFS to be safe. To minimize this factor minimize/avoid bare services(except daty/dfk which based on my research are very safe even bare and within my acceptable risk levels. Just check for signs of open sores/warts, etc. in full light or unusual smell). 2 - Legal factor - Tse law says Solicitation in public is illegal. That likely makes incalls illegal. It is very low risk but still outside my acceptable risk level. You want to be safe on this factor then take outcalls only (even if you can't have guests a home, investing a hundred on a motel or a hundred fifty on a hotel may worth it in my view to be safe). If you have to take incalls and want to virtually eliminate this, then stick to cerb indies. 3 - The BF/Pimp/agency factor - 3.1 - What if you go incall and someone jumps on you and take your money or hurt you, or the pimp (or the so called BF) walks in and pull a knife and demand money or else. What if someone is in closet ..... - These are incall risks. They are outside my tolerence risk levels. To eliminate this factor restrict yourself to cerb indies. 3.2 - What if you invite the lady and she is no lady but a thief and learn where you live (unless it is a hotel outcall). What if the BF/pimp knock on your door demanding money. These are outcall risk factors. The outcall risk factors can be minimized but not eliminated by doing lots of research before calling, especially when you respond to CL ads. If you want to avoid this, stick to cerb indies only (exclude agencies though as the agency or the unknown lady working for that agency, or represented by that agency or the agency boss himself/herself will still learn where you live and likely your name too and can and likely will use it against you in future, say upon a fair but a negative review/comment. I have been a victim of this agency factor myself lol. To eliminate this factor, stick to this recommendation board (cerb) only and avoid commenting on other review boards). 4 - Being stalked - Has happened only twice to me in 12 years, and both times with dancers not escorts. Escorts likely come with the intention of doing a job and forget about you after the job is done. There are no expectation beyond that on either side. Overwhelming majority of dancers too but possibly very few if they see your living comfort level and ability to make them feel happy, then they may disillude themselves and after repeated visits demanding more (including late night calls and/or pushing to move in with you as GF or demanding more frequent visits. This is within my acceptable level of risk. To avoid this risk factor restrict yourself to professional escorts, in particular cerb indies. PS - Above comments are from hobbyists' safety points of view. For example, factor no. 4 is much riskier for SPs. This posts reflects my personal views on safety related to hobbying. Secret Admirer

Spain was my pick lol. Lets see if I was right. Many years ago as a group of young high school students, we bet (not money but to take the winner for a night out (dinner/fun) and among 7 people who took part (we bet on each result of the game not final winner) I was the one who won. Usually good at soccer predictions lol.

You got me there too completely, I was upset until I realized that it was a joke. If God forbid I hit an animal on the road in an accident, I wont back up to finish her off but would pick her up and take her to the vet or animal hospital immediately lol. So that was why I become upset for a short while as why one should do this (no one would do this if it was a human). Oh, btw, I am animal sensitive likely not everyone felt that way but human rights, feminist rights and animal rights issues are touchy subjects for me. It was a funny joke. At the end (arrested for selling her kitty/pussy) made me laugh lol.

Ahhh:shock:. Do they really do this in Canada?? (I know they do it in the States). I am definitely not into GB but I do reply to CL exotic ads quite frequently and even though I am very careful to make my email totally legal (I say outcall only, donation for time and companionship only, .......and in fact everything that I do is totally legal too) but I would be very concerned if undercover LE is advertising as sting operation over there lol.

Glad you had a great time too Darlingp. Kayla is a treasure discovered for just a week and she has attracted so much attention already. She is a doll and a (blondie) princess. Thank you for sharing your great experience and your confirmation of this Ottawa's newest treasure.

After failing to convince pretty Sacha (on CL) for outcall (she is incall only), I decided to head to strip bars. After some soul searching I decided on Playmates where was one of the 5 strip bars that I used to be a regular for 7-8 years before switching to escorts and boy I AM GLAD I DID!!!. I had not been there in almost two years and hoping to see my old friends. Playmates is like a social club. Patrons know each other like long time friends. I saw quite a few of them again who have been old furniture there for years. They are all friends and walk around, play the pool and socialize with girls and each other. I of course go there for girls and only said hi from a distance by waving at them. Arrived around 3:00 pm and apart from the cute very friendly waitress (Angie), I did not noticed any beautiful girl nearby. Angie is a red head with very pale skin wearing a sexy mini skirt (too bad she is not a dancer). It wasn't a great start at first. A few patrons were sitting here and there and a few girls walking around. Suddenly I noticed a reguler dancer at a distance (Angelica) who came over to me for hugs and kisses. I hadn't seen her for two years. She is the real slender natural blonde with sexiest bum among many dancers I have seen. She has gain a bit of weight but still very sexy and with very soft pale skin. I had a few dances at one of the three relatively private CRs in the back. Lots of hugging and cuddling brought back old memories. Angelica is recommended for those who love sexy, natural blondes with very soft pale skin and beautiful bum sexy boobs with open minded services. Then I noticed another lady whom I knew (can't remember her name) who sat with me for long and we conversed about many subjects. These were the only ladies that I knew (funny I used to know at least 50 to may be as much as 100 lady dancers there over those 7-8 years when I used to be an old furniture there myself and apparently all gone. I noticed a very slim lady who I did not know. I noticed her when she started dancing on the stage. Very sexy body with pale skin and tall. Her name is Cally or Carley. I smiled at her while she was dancing. As soon as her dance was over, she came to me. Sat with me and I ordered her favorite drink (I ordered one for the cute friendly sexy waitress too). We chat for a while but I wasn't in chatting mood. I wanted to take her to the back CR and that I did. Very glad to have done so as I had about half hour of very enjoyable time. She provides open minded dances with plenty of smile. Cally is recommended for those who love very slim tall very friendly smiling open minded sexy brunettes with very small boobs. The very best event of the day happened when I was leaving the CR and I saw my very (past) favorite Jessica (with glasses) walked in. I had not seen her for two yeas and very happy to have had that luck. I invited her to my table, got her, her favorite drink and started chatting but I wasn't in mood for chatting lol. I wanted to get my hands and lips on her beautiful body and skin. Jessica is the best of the best. Everything about her is so beautiful or cute. She has: Beautiful pale soft skin. Slender tall beautiful body Beautiful sexy long dark hair almost down to her waist The most beautiful bum. The undisputed most beautiful boobs and nipples (speechless to describe them) The cutest face with those cute glasses very sexy legs and hands -- -- I stop here lol!!!:) I spent one heavenly hour with her in the CR where she provided open minded very friendly dances and that was undoubtedly the best hour of my life in a long long time in a strip bar. A total heavenly time with lots of cuddling, hugging. Jessica is recommended for those who love beautiful, tall, friendly very cute open minded long haired beautiful brunettes with beautiful everything:)(bum, skin, boobs, face, legs, skin, kitty, hair.....). I came out and decided to go upstairs restaurant to have some dinner (to drive out the wine) before driving. When I got in, the Spain Paraguay game was being replayed followed by Germany and Argentina. I didn't know the results and was so very excited but constantly thinking back to my HEAVENLY time at Playmates, especially the heavenly hour with the beautiful Jessica in the CR. It was already after 9:00 pm and my original plan was to check into a hotel (as my visitor still visiting) and call for an escort. But when I opened my wallet to pay for dinner, I realized that all the greens and red papers who used to be there only a few hours earlier have somehow disappeared!!!!!. Time to head back home right away. Ladies' Secret Admirer

Very sorry to read about your cat Megan. My heart goes out to you. I know losing a loved pet is so painful. I lost a puppy when I was a child:( and I remember I was crying loud for days and in my sleep too. Hope you have recovered by now. And btw, absolutely no reason to feel bad about crying on the phone or late cancellation. Totally understandable. Kudos to your client for offering to help. Grass Hopper, it is your client(s) who do the no-shows NOT you. If the client does not show up or break the rules by not calling from a displayed number then that is entirely his fault. Good on you to play it safe. Safety above all. I tried to give your post a rep for the rule for safety statement but was asked to spread my reps!!. Yes a no show can be very harmful. We should do our best to minimize it, unless of course there is an emergency. It is more than just loss of time or in case of service providers loss of money. It is the feeling of frustration and likely in many cases the feeling of being let down or rejection. Two weeks ago since I didn't have my once a week fun, I was in bad mood and emotionally tired for the following 5 working days. Lucky that I didn't get into fights with my demanding clients at work during those 5 days.

I had the worst case of a No Show a couple of weeks ago and it cost be a lot. I have a summer visitor. I take my visitor to a hotel for a few hours (cost same as overnight) so that I can have my house to myself when the lady arrives. I confirmed and re-confirmed the appointment with the agency several times, including the night before via email, text and phone. I explained clearly to him the situation (about the hotel) and asked him very clearly to let me know if something happens (I could cancel by 6:00 pm on the day). So, in good faith, I took my visitor to Hotel at 3:30 pm and came back, and spent about an hour arranging my house for the date (usual wine and chocolate and gift and flash lights, LS TV, etc.) and showering and dressing up. etc., but 5:00 pm passed and no one showed up!!!!. The worst thing was that when I called them at 5:15, I got the "out of service" message!!!!!. The agency started posting ad on CL a few days after, using the same (out of service) number!!!!!. The second worst thing, when I went back soon after to pick up my guest (I was feeling down and in no mood to call for another), I was interrogated at the checkout as why we leave so early(usually I go back around 9-10 pm to check out). Therefore I don"t think I can return to that hotel (my visitor likes that particular hotel) This was the only no-show I had in the past 12 months and only the second no-show of my 2 year hobbying history (last time it didn't cost me anything, just wasted preparation time but this time did, both in dollars and time lol). The late shows, I have had plenty but they don't bother me at all. I know getting through traffic and getting ready for me (make ups, sexy dress, shower) takes time and anxiously waiting for my princess (especially if I have seen her before) can be a turn on for me. I take outcalls only. So, obviously there has never been a no-show by me (I always show up there lol because I live there.).

Thanks Peachka.

I don't believe that it has been said or even suggested anywhere in the thread by anyone that pay for sex makes it a bad thing.

My apology Carrie and Annessa. I was not aware of that (in Englang husbands and wives call each other dear or darling). So, I assume it is okay if I say hun?? or prefer to call your names as I did in this post. I can see why it could be regarded offensive as the word is reserved for friends and could be offensive if used on strangers. So, me assuming that someone I have never met is a friend and address her like so, may be offensive. I assume all cerbites are friends, afterall this is a friendly board as I am sure we all agree and that was why i used the word "dear". ps - I will remove references to "dear" from my posts.

Very strange!!!. I thought the word dear is for friends. I cetainly didn't mean to be hostile!!!. I Googled searched it and it says: Meaning of Dear: Bearing a high price; high-priced; costly; expensive. 'Dear' originally meant 'precious','valuable' 'costly'. Glad to read your confirmation of my statements as to my requirements. On your last point if you feel this thread is low rated then with all due respects, do not participate in it. No body forces you lol. A lot of members took the time to post their views. Lets thank them for their contributions lol. BTW, if you look at the thread it has FIVE STARS in front of it (highly rated), not that it matters, just observation.

I will PM you on this.

When or where was the other time - By another hobbyist?? Yes correct. The thread is about how cerbites in general view hobbying as date (rendezvous) or pay for sex. I am just a very small component of that (one of many cerbites) who appearred daring to express my views bluntly on the other side of debate. That was why the focus. I was an SC fan for 12 years (please read my threads on coparative review of strip bars... and who are your favorite dancers.... in the strip bar section, if interested). and about two years ago I gradually switched to escorts. I still have private dances but much less frequent as they are relatively (sometimes a lot) more expensive than escorts. I don't think they are pressured in any way. I have met many in the SCs and we know each other for years (first talking in the bars, dances, sharing drinks, may be dinners too) and then they (being relatively conservative compared to escorts) accept willingly my invitation to be guests in my house and overwhelmingly very much enjoyed it and eagor to come back. Our encounters have been awesome and a real GF experience (as I mentioned to me GFE is not about sex or a list of services but rather the emotional bond and attachment you feel with another lady). And yes private dance is much more pleasurable than dance in the club.

So well said Cato. This is the sentence I have been looking for all along (and never came to my mind) and in my view is the best sentence of the entire thread. Absolutely right again and thanks again. You are the great writer I wished to be who unlike me can convey clearly what is in your mind to others. Cheers.

Happy Canada Day, the best kisser princess:) (do you remember me?). And welcome back to cerb too. By all means come back and start advertising if you are happy to come back. I have a summer visitor right now but if you do I would gladly add you to my list, and will have a date asap. Good luck in making your decision.

Flyer, happy Canada Day to you too. The reason I call it pay for date rather than pay for sex is because in my case at least (and likely many others) in my many rendezvous dates there was no sex with SP dancers but paid as well for the date. In many cases I took them to dinner dates and paid for dinner or bars and paid for drinks and that was all, driving them back to their home and saying good bye. I started hobbying only 2 years ago before that and for many (10) years I was going to SCs and dating dancers (yes few became my GF eventually and most my friends but still I paid for their time and companionship with no sex and still do this now and quite frequently lol) and I am sure that are many others who have a date without sex too. BTW, to me dancers and masseuses are service providers too. If you consider kisses and huggings as sex (as some do) then yes I was/am paying for sex,we all do, even when I took them out I still kissed them lol. However, this thread was not about me and was a question to cerbites as how they perceive hobbying and it appears that the result is a yes is on the side of pay for sex, assuming that the other side was not a silent majority lol. Wish it was a poll lol. Additional Comments: That is another way of looking at it and a great one too. As I said we all have different perceptions on what we do. We should choose the one that makes us happier than others.

Thank you both Megan and Annessa for your comments and views. I am sure I will be reading all the posts (not on my day off though), including yours quit a few times and form an opinion on the original question of the thread which was "How hobbying is viewed by cerbites, as a date (rendezvous), or paying for sex" by both hobbyists and SPs. The thread was not about me, my views or how right or wrong my views may be. Nor was it about the right or wrong of pay for sex. This (daring) thread however, was received quite well as many cerbites both SPs and hobbyists participated and expressed their views. I am glad I started this highly rated and may be controversial thread. My only regret, I wish I had structured it in the form of an anonymous poll as would have been easier to see the results on the question at a glance as well as of course reading the comments. The consensus appears to be on the perception of the pay for sex rather than pay for date from those who commented but the fact remains that many may have refrained from commenting for the other side for their own reasons. My opinion thus far is that our perception about what we do in life is different from one another but it is a choice that one has the right to make. Though the reality may be paying for sex, If we (those of us on the other side of this debate) are happier to see our time together as date (rendezvous) and guest why should we change my perception to something that we may not be as happy with (surely someone else is not deciding what we should or should not be happier with)?. Afterall is that not why we call ourselves hobbyists and service providers instead of Johns and hookers all over the board by most may be all members?. It is all about perception and the choices we make in life in order to be happy or feel happier. Happy Canada Day everyone:D. Lets celebrate the birth of the best country in the world dear cerbites.