MisterMike

I agree. Something's not right here.

It's threads like this that make Lyla such a valuable resource especially for newcomers. This one is pure common sense. Especially if the instructions are clearly stated and easy to follow there's no reason why anyone shouldn't happily comply. I would think that if everything is clearly stated and understood in advance this would only lead to a much more satisfying and relaxing encounter for both parties which is what we should be striving for. Thanks Emily for starting another informative and useful thread and to the other ladies for providing their insight.

This thread is a wonderful "think piece" and I have learned a lot from it. Thanks Berlin for originating it and to several ladies for sharing their experiences. Hopefully this will make me a better hobbyist. This forum is an excellent resource in promoting understanding and with understanding comes respect. Although I am new to this "hobby" I would think it is common sense that any woman willing to share her treasures with me is worthy of my full respect and courtesy. The concept of wanting to get "your money's worth" by banging away for the entire allotted time is obscene. If I were a SP this kind of activity would totally turn me off and I would probably consider other career options going forward. It's the same as with any other professional one might need to retain; doctor, attorney, accountant, etc. They are all providing their knowledge and experience but a companion provides all of that and a lot more.....a whole lot more. And, at least in my case, it's more a matter of "want" than "need".

As a new "hobbyist" this has been a very informative thread for me. I certainly don't want to commit a faux pas and make anyone uncomfortable. Being new obviously leads to a level of apprehension on how to conduct oneself properly. I just want to have a positive experience at a very personal human level with both parties comfortable with the other so they can focus on why they are together. I am also hoping to make a few new friends while keeping it on the same level on which it originated. Fortunately an SP's web site and postings here are great sources of information. The important questions relevant to services provided, etiquette, protocol and honorarium expected should already have been answered. It's a matter of doing your homework. This site is an excellent resource in helping us to get to know each other as people so that we all know what to expect and so that we may enjoy the "hobby" to its fullest.

I certainly would not turn down an opportunity to enjoy a lady's treasures because she didn't allow DATY. A lot would depend on what else she wouldn't allow. I don't think I would like to go the dental dam route either. To be candid about it I never was that particular about DATY except under very special circumstances.

Time is a valuable commodity. None of us know exactly how much we have left. Every SP has the right to structure their fee schedule as they deem appropriate but in the final analysis you are paying for time. Often a lawyer, mechanic, etc, may offer a flat rate to do a specific job and an SP will charge so much for a "date". IMHO if both parties understand the deal, know exactly what to expect and are happy with it then it's okay. But, to my way of thinking, paying "by the minute" as is discussed in another thread is ridiculous. It would be a definite mood killer for me but others may find it workable. I have seen some ladies charge a lower rate for social companionship than they do for for intimate encounters. Others charge the same rate. Some charge additional for certain services, others do not break it down. They set the fee schedule but in the end the client is the final judge of what works for them and what doesn't. Personally I need to know exactly what to expect in advance of making the first contact. I don't like surprises. That's why I like the CERB and the ladies' web sites.......

Legally you are in the right. Copyright is derived on creation and you don't actually file forms to be covered although it may be better to have registration certificates as proof. Seeking legal redress is expensive and collecting damages is difficult. It may take years to resolve. You may be able to obtain a cease and desist order against whomever is copying your site. Also you might choose to remember that "imitation is the sincerest form of flattery." Good luck.

I have perused BP in several locales particularly when I started out in this "hobby" but quickly tended to equate it with CRAIGS LIST. I do not think neither BP nor CL is suitable for the newcomer to the "hobby", particularly in the USofA where there is the L-E element to contend with. I see it akin to the "Wild West" where anything goes and frankly, particularly in this field of endeavour, I really need to know exactly what to expect or I don't want to play. I agree with several other posters that the CERB Forum offers a much more comfortable venue where I can meet people of similar interest and have meaningful discussions while remaining anonymous. If I wanted a quick roll in the sack I'd be more inclined to scan BP/CL looking for action. However my preference is more to fun and memorable experiences with special ladies and that is why I spend time here, hanging out, getting to know people by reading their posts, exchanging PMs and just seeing what may develop. I far prefer quality over quantity and I find that is the case on this Forum. I must say that even though I have only been a member a short time I have found this Forum to be a friendly environment and I feel comfortable sharing my thoughts and ideas. I also visit BESTGFE which is more centered in the US northeast region but it is nowhere near the community as I find in this Forum. BESTGFE is more of a "Meet Market" but at times the forums can be interesting and the field of play is much larger but definitely not better. Thank you for making me feel at home here.

Yes, Canada is far more enlightened in many ways than the USA. I am thankful I am Canadian too and have options. USA has a lot of problems that are not being addressed. I can see how your clientele's confidentially and trust are paramount in practicing your profession. I also see the potential for danger and you must keep yourself safe and secure so it becomes essential to know with whom you are dealing. Hopefully a situation will present itself whereby I can join this "hobby" while maintaining my own comfort level along with that of my "temporary girlfriend" and have some adventures of my own. Meanwhile the CERB forum is great because it allows for dialog such as this and with that comes understanding and tolerance which is alway a good thing.

I would think what Gabrielle is saying here is just common sense. Perhaps some guys just don't understand being intimate is a completely different psychological experience for women than it is for men. Think about it guys, who is being penetrated? So if she says "no" smile and find something else to amuse yourself. There are still plenty of options. Remember, keep it fun!

What a lot of people don't understand is that a forum like this is a benevolent dictatorship and that all users are guests. Rules are there for a reason. There are no "rights" to anything. We are here at the pleasure of the admins and the mods who provide the resource. It takes a great deal of time and work to run a forum/message board. Someone has to keep everyone happy and that is like herding cats. Sometimes a heavy hand is needed. Been there and done that. Thank you for making this board available to me.

As a new hobbyist this is the dilemma I face. I am not in a position to reveal my true name and telephone number but understand and endorse the need to SP security and safety. I hope that a SP will do the same for me so I can build up a couple of references and enjoy the hobby to the fullest.

I am new to the hobby and actually haven't enjoyed my first experience yet. I have some reservations and this is one of them. This issue is of great concern to me. I am becoming a hobbyist because my wife never been able to perform oral sex. As we all know one has to love doing it to do it well. I survived without it and our sex life is satisfactory. However I have missed it. Now that I am in my 60s I find myself wanting to experience this again and so I am here. I am shocked to see that some women offer bbfs in this day and age. Yikes. I judge them only in the sense that I personally wouldn't want to see them regardless of how attractive they are. However when it comes to BBBJ I am of mixed emotions. I wouldn't ask for it out of common sense but if it were offered I don't know how I would react. This is but one concern that has been keeping me from taking the first plunge. I remember back in the 1960s and 70s a good blow job included CIM (and often swallowing too) and no one thought anything more about it. AIDS has been with us for almost 30 years now and I would have thought that common sense would have precluded any kind of unprotected activity. I just don't know........

That's a myth. However since this is a personal business I would respect the lady's wishes. She is not the only one. And the aggrieved party can hardly file a complaint with the Human Rights Commission.

I tend to agree. What is the point? How much $$ would you expect to save? Much of the fun is getting to know the SP a bit; otherwise you could utilize "self service".