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I probably have all the information one could want.

You are very welcomed 🙂 If you or anyone has any questions/suggestions, please let me know. Biz

Great post. Everyone is entitled to operate as they wish 🙂 You're right, there are legit real honest escorts that have no online presence (no reviews, no social media). If she has no proof in her ad and her pictures are not verified either, then there is no way for a client to know if she's legit or not. At this point, the options are: 1. Take a chance (this has a VERY low success outcome) 2. Ask for proof, get proof, book 3. Ask for proof, request denied, respectfully move on

The guidance has NOTHING to do with "Men" telling women how the business should be run. Also the guidance focuses on unproven, un-established, un-reviewed, independent escorts. The fact that you post on a forum, mostly likely means that the guidance does not apply to you. Maybe you haven't read it? Or maybe you haven't understood it? Escorts are not booking clients for their appearances. Escort book clients for their money. On the other hand, several clients book escort for their appearances and they are the buyers. Asking for proof in a respectful manner as discussed in the guidance is a common practice nowadays. Disrespecting and insulting are NOT part of the guidance. As you said, if the proof request has been declined, then the client can respectfully move on. If you are an established or proven or reviewed escorts, then the guidance will provide tip to inexperienced clients in order for them to realize that you are, hence making your life easier 🙂

Hey guys, can we stay on topic please? This thread is for the guidance in the OP. If anyone has suggestions to improve the guidance, I'll happily incorporate it. On this note, the guidance has been revised. Originally the scope of the guidance ended at "when the booking was made", but due to requests and contributions from board members, the scope has grown. Added: - hyperlinked table of content - "before starting the session" section - "writing your review" section An important section on e-transfer deposits, given references and personal information, and client's list is being drafted. Perspective from established escorts will be integrated. Link: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tLf9Ka6dI6Tb4XLFr18cuPruHrMyUZwxC6Q1VsOMBSk/edit.

I have NOT suggested to NOT give a deposit to ANY escort. I have only stated that I personally NEVER did and NEVER will. The Guidance will provide guidance only. Furthermore it will provide perspective from a very-diligent-low-risk-taker client (i.e. someone like me) and from a reputable established creditable escort (i.e. someone like you perhaps). I have interacted with many reputable established creditable escorts and I fully understand and respect their point of view. I think what they are doing is good for them and their business practices. That being said, I don't align with their booking requirements so I respectfully move on to another escort. We all have our preferences and are entitled to them. If you contact me privately, I would be glad to have you review this section of the guidance and have your feedback include in it :) Biz

At the end of the guidance, you probably noticed that a section for this is being drafted. Personally I would NEVER send a deposit to ANY escorts, but many guys will send deposits to reputable established escorts. It depends on YOUR level of comfort, if you're married, what's your career position, and other factors. Keep checking the guidance for more tips.

Since the last post, the guidance has been revised. Originally the scope of the guidance ended at when the booking was made, but due to requests and contributions from board members, the scope has grown. Added: - hyperlinked table of content - "before starting the session" section - "writing your review" section Link: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tLf9Ka6dI6Tb4XLFr18cuPruHrMyUZwxC6Q1VsOMBSk/edit# Recommendations to improve the guidance are welcomed :)

I agree with these 2 points. Personally I love doing TOFTTs, I have 41 in the last 40 months :) "Have your seen her" or "any info" etc... that usually comes with no full phone number, sometimes no link or one that dies the next day. I see those posts as a very lazy leeching approach. And you're right 75% of the time the answer is available with 5 minutes of research. That's one of the purpose of the "TOFTT guidance", to help reduce these type of threads.

Without haven't read what follows this post, I will reply to this one. - imo, it's not the SP/MA's responsibility to get the word out, it's an option for them should they want to. - imo, the majority of guys (90% maybe?) don't post reviews, so gems can remind hidden for a while. - In it written in the guidance that if an escort has been working for years and has no reviews, then it is a red flag. - TOFTT are available for guys that are into them, we all have our preferences. - imo, escorts have many reasons to stay of the grid, ultimately it is their choice to make and be respected.

Thanks man. The document is a live one, it has been revised following feedback. There's also other sections being drafted 😉

Done. I can't believe something this basic yet important slipped by. Thanks So true! Thanks.

Hey guys, I've put together some tips and guidance to help out the "rookie guys" when dealing with pure TOFTT in regards to unproven un-established independent escorts. It's still a draft but fairly advanced. What do you think of it so far? If you have any constructive recommendations to help improve it, please let me know and I'll incorporate it :)Link: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tLf9Ka6dI6Tb4XLFr18cuPruHrMyUZwxC6Q1VsOMBSk/edit#

Yes you are correct! The comment or proposed change would stay logged in the log. Good point. Yes it is quite thorough lol, thanks.

Thanks CBS15, Do you mean when the members/readers click on the G-doc link? I agree that no one should use their "real life" email account to comment in the G-doc. I personally have an email account that I use strictly for hobbying purposes and nothing else. However, the G-doc is set up that any readers does not have to login into Google in order to access the document. I could have set it up that readers have to sign-in into Google. As the document owner, the only thing I see is anonymous readers currently reading the document unless yes, if they have signed into Google. That being said, I'm a long time member, no need to worry about me, I'm legit lol 🙂

Hey guys, I've put together some tips and guidance to help out the "rookie guys" when dealing with pure TOFTT in regards to unproven un-established independent escorts. It's still a draft but fairly advanced. What do you think of it so far? If you have any recommendations to help improve it, please let me know.Link: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tLf9Ka6dI6Tb4XLFr18cuPruHrMyUZwxC6Q1VsOMBSk/edit#heading=h.9v3d7clb950t

Link is dead (of course!), What was her full phone number?

Link? Full phone number?

I'm very certain of this but I could be wrong. If you ask her directly I'm sure she'll tell you tho: She works out of a apartment building off Rideau street along with 3-5 more ebony girls. The building is not very clean... I haven't seen her but I have seen these pictures advertised for over 2 years...

I have been looking for a while too. That option doesn't seem to be readily available in Ottawa nowadays. It be great to have a few ladies that provide full interactive duos. Or even just a ****-duo! PM if you prefer ;)

If you post her FULL phone number, then we'll be able to Google it and find ads for her :) Wait have you Google her number yourself to potentially find information for yourself...?

Personal email = email that contains my real name and linked to the real me. Hobby email = email used only for the purpose of hobbying without ANY connection to the real me. I also received solicitation emails recently. Given that these emails have been coming thru my hobby email account, I have ZERO issue with that. Like you, if these emails would be coming thru my personal email account, I would not have been thrilled. Although it would also not be a big deal, as one could just say that it's spam email and deleted it. It's not like the sender should know your real name anyway. I don't know too many hobbyists that uses their personal emails for the purpose of hobbying... so I'm not sure what the issue is here. I see this as a possible opportunity rather than a possible problem. Now all this being said, I agree that no one should be sharing anyone else's email address without proper consent.

The key is FULL phone numbers. Unfortunately not a lot of members realize that. Fortunately there's a full number embedded in the caesort link above :) If you Google FULL phone numbers, more often than not, you will find the answer to your questions ;)

She has been periodically visiting Ottawa for 2 years. She travels throughout Canada and she's reviewed on almost every boards. Search a little and you shall find plenty of helpful information :) good luck

You worked with her but you can't confirm if the pictures in her ad are really hers or stolen off the net? Here's her ad: http://ottawa.postfastr.com/FemaleEscorts/613-899-3368-shawna-guilty-pleasure/70704123 http://caescort.club/613-899-3368 https://independent.com.ottawa.listcrawler.com/post/25022453/# Real pictures can be taken faster then searching for fake ones. Don't include the face in the shot and cover the tattoos with clothing, done in 1 minute! There also exist many other type of clients than "Dan" and your clients. There's a continuous spectrum of type of clients not a discrete amount of 2 types.