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+1 for that. I read this earlier today and assumed it was some kind of joke.

60s cartoon hot is still hot! No qualifier needed! I don't remember exactly how old I was, but likely that same range. I was fantasizing about Whilhemine before knowing why. Do you remember the change in illustration style? I remember they modified her at one point and I was a big fan of the changes. She went from quirky evil hot to evil seductress hot.

I can see where you are coming from; though I'm not as unforgiving and hope they can tighten things up. I agree the writing has been uneven this year. At times brilliant and other times disappointing. There certainly appears to be an element of spaghetti throwing with story lines. As though they hadn't thought the season through completely and have been shifting focus somewhat arbitrarily; rushing some stories to conclusion prematurely. That being said, I think the Hannah/Dexter relationship is awesome. It has so much potential. The ice cold robot mystique was cool for the first few seasons but there is more opportunity for depth with his character as he becomes more human and aware of his own will. He's now facing real emotion and uncertainty over the consequences of his actions on those he loves, while releasing long held personal mantras that insulated him from any moral responsibility. Hopefully they tighten things up again. I still like the show but sloppy writing does bug me.

Uh, yeah. This has my vote. Who knew Wikipedia had such wonderful material? Remember the evil Witch from the Hercules cartoons? As a young kid, I always found her insanely hot with her dark hair and curvy figure. I always secretly pulled for her to defeat Hercules. She can cast a spell on me anytime.

I have never had that happen to me in Ottawa. While it doesn't seem like a good repeat business strategy for the dancer, I don't doubt that it happens with transient dancers. I do believe that I was the target of a scam attempt in TO. Earlier this year when I was on a trip to Toronto, I had spent a significant amount of time with a dancer and paid her in full, along with a nice tip. I had also been buying her drinks all night and we were feeling alright. Near the end of the evening she went up to her locker then came back ranting that she didn't have her money and accused me of stealing it. She then called the bouncers over. Not sure if this is a scam and people usually cave to the intimidation, but I'm pretty stubborn especially when I think someone might be trying to take advantage of me. I told the dancer and bouncers in no uncertain terms that if she lost the money, I felt bad for her, but that if they were trying to run a scam, they picked the wrong guy and she wasn't getting a single cent more from me. She seemed to want more intimidation from the bouncers, but they didn't seem too interested in taking it much further, so I settled up my bar tab and walked out. Fortunately, the bouncers didn't follow me, otherwise it could have become a messy situation and probably not a good one for me. Anyway, left a real sour taste in my mouth.

I don't push the limits with extras, but I do appreciate the privacy of the setup at the fax. For me, the downtown location is convenient during the day. Regarding the air, it adds character and is part of its charm. ;)

Just to clarify, I didn't mean that I would stop mid-dance. That would be very rude and insensitive. If chemistry was not there, I would gently thank her after one dance and not continue for addtional dances - tipping for the extended conversation time. That seems fair and reasonable to both parties. I think we're in agreement across the board?

Agreed. Often there is nothing sexier than everyday clothing. That being said, everyone's tastes will vary and it would probably be worth stating an expectation clearly, if there is one. Yoga pants and a tank top make me drool.

Agreed! I cringe every time I see someone flop on the stage and put a bill in their mouth. Regarding the tipping question, if you make eye contact with a dancer they will generally approach very quickly and it would be a good opportunity for you to thank her and explain that while you aren't able to take her for a dance, you'd like to show your appreciation. A tip to the waitress won't make its way back to a dancer.

They've been announcing/advertising it for some time. I didn't go but it was well advertised in the club over the last month or so.

Hi Bridgette, While I agree with the logic and I'm very impressed that you're able to be so pragmatic about it, I'm not sure that is a realistic a reaction for many people. As much as anyone has a right to choose how they spend their money, any time people are involved we have to consider human nature and emotion. I think its great that you're able to be very rational about it, but I can empathize with a dancer who might not take it as well. Not saying its right; just human frailty. As an example, I am a business owner in a completely different field and I work very hard to satisfy my clients. If I learned that a long standing client decided to work with one of my competitors, I would be hurt. Yes, my client has every right to choose a different supplier, but that right doesn't mean I would not feel slighted. I'd get over it and try to learn from it, but my immediate reaction would have a degree of emotion. I suspect, for a dancer, the line of work could leave some feeling more vulnerable to feelings of rejection in this case. There is nothing more personal or emotional than fear of rejection. I struggle with this when I go to strip clubs because I am usually pretty selective about who I take for a dance. I generally have a longer than average conversation to see if we're a good fit, so once I go for a dance, I feel reasonably invested. If the chemistry isn't there in the CR, I'll cut it short but find it awkward explaining to someone who I had great conversational chemistry with that I am not interested in any more dances. I know I have every right to not take any more dances, and I don't, but think its reasonable for the dancer to be less than thrilled. Bottom line, I think its worth making a distinction between what is technically and logically correct vs. what is reasonable to expect based on human nature. Additional Comments: Additional Comments: Two quick clarifications. Bridgette, I was responding to one of your earlier messages without taking the full context int account. I also believe I incorrectly attributed someone else's comment to you. So, after a quick reread, I think you were acknowledging both the logic and emotional aspects. Sorry to mischaracterize your position. Second, when I don't feel chemistry after a long conversation, I DO tip for the time. I just find its still awkward because a greater expectation has been formed.

I find this subject very interesting. I am a novice who is here learning about 'the hobby', I can see both sides of this issue very clearly. My perspective is coloured by the fact that I have not yet engaged with a service provider and this lifestyle is very much outside of the norm for me. As a novice, my concerns are likely more amplified; whether that amplification is valid or not. I truly sympathize with the service providers and fully appreciate the inherent risks of their profession. Screening and reference requirements are 100% reasonable. I respect your decision; hell, that would be a requirement of mine, if I were in your shoes. Its sad that abuse and violence enter the equation, but that's reality. I can also understand the flip side. As a newbie, I don't have any references and the ladies whose profiles have interested me, many have participated in this thread, all require screening and references. I do recognize that more extensive screening is an option for those with no references; however, I hesitate to expose myself in that way. I agree with Georgiana, regarding the suggestion that much of this discussion is based on a false premise. There is no dichotomy on this issue from the perspective of the service provider. I also must confess that reading a well written post with correct application of the word dichotomy is the hottest thing I have read so far. To be explicitly clear and not step on any toes accidentally with my very first post, please don't misunderstand my position. I am not suggesting that my concern over privacy is more important than your safety. I am merely pointing out that I can logically understand your need for screening and references, without it eliminating my concern for my privacy. It appears the true dichotomy is privacy vs safety.