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And I agree of course that the kissing analogy is not a good comparison. Your very explanation as to why it isn't a good comparison is one of the reasons I changed my view on the private section in the first place. So of course that comparison doesn't hold up. If I thought it did than I wouldn't have changed my mind. My reason for bringing up the comparison was to convey that Prior to my changing my mind about the private section my error in thinking was not inspired by malicious intentions but rather an unrealistic perception of how the private section would have run. I realize now that it wouldn't work like that.

Well I'm convinced, too many negatives for a private hobbyists section -unnecessary division -boys club mentality and may become disrespectful -may pose increases danger to the provider with regard to the exchange of a providers personal information without there knowledge. -And I'm sure there is more..feel free to add. However, I think that there is one thing that should be cleared up. Its the big white elephant in the room. As the most common comment made by people in this thread surrounds the following: "if you have something to say about someone and you can't say it too them then don't say it at all" I think the perception here is that if you for any reason would prefer not to say something to someone than what you have to say is negative. So I have to believe that this way of thinking must have left some with the impression that Splitz (me) wants to talk negatively about providers and is looking for a forum that allows me to do that behind a closed door. Just to be clear.. that is NOT SO. I believe that there are times when one may not want to speak on a topic in front of someone that involves that person but the reasoning for not including that person who it relates to is not malicious but more of a social norm. For example: (fake names ahead) Julie and Jake are on a 1st date and just as Jake is kissing Julie good night for the first time, Jacky(Julie's best friend) just happens to be walking up the road. Julie introduces Jake to Jacky and as this is happening Jacky is just dying to ask Julie a ton of questions like: what is he like, is he a good kisser, is he a good conversationalist and Julie's dying to tell Jacky all about it because that's what people do. So guess what happens when Jake leaves. The conversation begins. Now is Jacky betraying Jake? If Jacky wanted to know if Jake was a good kisser or a good conversationalist than shouldn't Jacky have been able to ask those questions in front of Jake, and if she didn't want to, is that because Jacky had bad intentions? I wouldn't say so. Some people would just find that a bit awkward. Now the dangers of having a private section for the hobbyist have been well stated and I have been convinced that its probably not a good idea so please know that my above example is in no way advocating for one. I just believe it would be understandable for someone to have misinterpreted my intentions as malicious and I sensed that some had interpreted them that way. Thanks everyone. This has been quite eye opening for me. It's great to have an environment where people can ask questions, debate, and learn without it getting petty and shallow like I see happening in many other online forums where knee jerk reactions and trading insults sadly dictate the flow. And having the privilege of being part of a forum that allows providers and hobbyist to share their perspectives with each other in an environment of mutual respect is so valuable. I think part of that value may be in that it helps highlight the importance of the legalization/normalization of this industry within society. Only with legalization can there be major leaps forward with regard safety and the prevention of exploitation. Peace....

great points MightyPen

Wow, a lot of great points and responses. I'm really seeing now that there are a lot of potential negatives in a private section for men. I'm really glad I asked the question as I have now had the benefit of all of your perspectives on the matter. The safety of everyone is of the up most importance and if a private form for the men could add to the risk that is already taken by providers then I'd have to say that it is a bad idea. Thank you for your input everyone.

sorry I'm not communicating my self well. Someone said only hobbyist were allowed to use Bait/switch section and I was just making the point that that is not the case as providers do in fact post in that section. Also, when I said it's usually non members that are reported in that section, I never meant that people aren't able to manipulate the system. Someone had said that if a cerb provider had reported another cerb provider that all hell would break loose and my point was to state that they didn't have to be a cerb member to be reported. I didn't mean that I know who was and was not a member and that I knew the secret identity of everyone with differing aliases. Sorry, I may not have communicated myself well and I think we have gone a little of course because of that and so I apologize. So before I derailed this thread we were talking about a private section. I made a comment # 17 that I would appreciate some in site on. Hear it is again.. Well thank you very much for that realnicehat. I very much appreciate your apology and I will endeavor not to be so sensitive in the future. One reason for a private section for the guys would be that sometimes you get 10 or 20 pms about a recent experience with a service provider. Now lets say that experience was positive but many of the PM's from hobbyists were asking a lot of the same questions as each other. Now if some of those questions pertain to the physical attributes of the provider (NOT NEGATIVE) such as, breast size and shape or feet or belly button, submissive vs dominant, or what ever your fancy (we all have our fetishes and quarks and a preference for one thing does not imply negativity over the other!) some hobbyists might be a little shy to ask or answer those kinds of questions in a public forum where a specific provider or maybe any or all service providers may read it. They may find it a bit embarrassing even though it isn't negative, and I think there is nothing wrong with being a bit bashful. Now I know there is more than just one guy here or there who feels this way because if there wasn't... than why do so many hobbyists ask their non negative questions in private messages after I leave a public recommendation, why not just ask it in the public thread that the reco was posted? (and yes I'm aware that some do ask in the public forum but that's not the point)? I get PM'd all the time from many of the hobbyists on this site asking non negative questions after I leave a reco. I believe this forum is about people helping people (providers and hobbyists alike) so I try and answer everyone's questions. If we had a private section where someone could ask a question in a thread and have other hobbyists who were about to ask the same question all see the answer all at once it would sure save people a lot of time copying and pasting the same answer to 20 different people every time. And some great no negative discussions may result that would never happen in a public forum. Its sad people assume for Hobbyests, the request for a little privacy, automatically means we're looking for a forum to bash the service providers. As I'm sure there are a few hobbyists who may try, there are also those of us who would report them. So some guys are a little old fashion and feel like its not gentleman like to speak of such things in public, or they're too shy or what ever the reason. There may be other Non negative reasons for PMing over publicly asking a question that I'm not thinking of but that doesn't discredit the reasons I have given. It'd just be a place for those of us who are a little less braising and a little more shy around the ladies. And for any hobbyists who personally feels they wouldn't use it, no one is saying you have to. Quote: Originally Posted by realnicehat View Post Splitz, I'll take the heat on this one as I was the first to add a little sarcasm to the thread. It was not intended to patronize you nor did I mean it in a negative way. While I did offer a serious answer at the bottom I apologize if in any way it made you feel like you shouldn't have asked the question. There are a lot of serious discussions here, and much valuable information exchanged but as we also like to have fun you should be prepared for a few tongue in cheek responses here and there. I assure you that most of the time they are not delivered with any malice intended. To answer your new question, the B&S/Dangerous Encounters section is for the men to use. The ladies have their own private section to discuss bad/dangerous clients. There has been much debate (do a search) on the fairness of the ladies having a private section while the men do not. I won't get in to it because honestly, I don't particularly care. The idea of it strikes me as a "boys club", hence the pic I posted in my first response but I don't feel strongly about it either way.

The section is not only for reporting cerb members. Usually its non members that are reported more than members. And in this very thread one of our great providers stated that she uses the thread to warn "us hobbyists" of bait and switches so in fact providers do in fact report in that public forum. . Any comments on the latest post I made regarding a private section for the hobbyists? Additional Comments: And your point that if a cerb provider warned of a cerb hobbyist in a public forum all hell would break out. Well if its for "warnings" wouldnt even more hell break out if a cerb hobbyist reported something on a cerb provider? you can have one with out the other..

Well thank you very much for that realnicehat. I very much appreciate your apology and I will endeavor not to be so sensitive in the future. One reason for a private section for the guys would be that sometimes you get 10 or 20 pms about a recent experience with a service provider. Now lets say that experience was positive but many of the PM's from hobbyists were asking a lot of the same questions as each other. Now if some of those questions pertain to the physical attributes of the provider (NOT NEGATIVE) such as, breast size and shape or feet or belly button, submissive vs dominant, or what ever your fancy (we all have our fetishes and quarks and a preference for one thing does not imply negativity over the other!) some hobbyists might be a little shy to ask or answer those kinds of questions in a public forum where a specific provider or maybe any or all service providers may read it. They may find it a bit embarrassing even though it isn't negative, and I think there is nothing wrong with being a bit bashful. Now I know there is more than just one guy here or there who feels this way because if there wasn't... than why do so many hobbyists ask their non negative questions in private messages after I leave a public recommendation, why not just ask it in the public thread that the reco was posted? (and yes I'm aware that some do ask in the public forum but that's not the point)? I get PM'd all the time from many of the hobbyists on this site asking non negative questions after I leave a reco. I believe this forum is about people helping people (providers and hobbyists alike) so I try and answer everyone's questions. If we had a private section where someone could ask a question in a thread and have other hobbyists who were about to ask the same question all see the answer all at once it would sure save people a lot of time copying and pasting the same answer to 20 different people every time. And some great no negative discussions may result that would never happen in a public forum. Its sad people assume for Hobbyests, the request for a little privacy, automatically means we're looking for a forum to bash the service providers. As I'm sure there are a few hobbyists who may try, there are also those of us who would report them. So some guys are a little old fashion and feel like its not gentleman like to speak of such things in public, or they're too shy or what ever the reason. There may be other Non negative reasons for PMing over publicly asking a question that I'm not thinking of but that doesn't discredit the reasons I have given. It'd just be a place for those of us who are a little less braising and a little more shy around the ladies. And for any hobbyists who personally feels they wouldn't use it, no one is saying you have to. Additional Comments: I was wondering if providers can also benefit from the bait and switch/dangerous situation section by not only posting dangers for hobbyists but providers and hobbyists can also warn providers of dangerous situations as well. Everyone keeps saying "well hobbyists have a section to help keep them safe and warn them of scams." Can't both sides benefit in the same way from that section?

I thank most of you for your informative replys and I agree cerb is no place for negativity and that wasn't my intension with regard to a "tree house" section as some have dubbed it. There are some however who also made the point about being against negativity but then went onto write long sarcastic fantasies as to why it would be good to have a private section there by patronizing the person for asking the question in the first place. Was that not unnessasary negativity? I'm a relatively new member and I'm just trying to understand the logistics of this site a little better. I'm not trying to offended or hurt anyone. This is an open forum and as long as people are being respectful and not being negative they shouldn't have to be afraid to ask a question with out receiving "negativity". So heres another question and remember, it's just a question. Are service providers allowed to use the "bait and switch/dangerous encounters section or is it only for the hobbyests who don't need a private section because they have the bait and switch/dangerous encounters avenue?

I've always been confused by these warnings. They are a contradiction in terms. If I hear about a sting on BP or CL that is attempting to catch people responding to underage ads I don't say a thing. The warning only reminds these people that they have to be more careful which makes it more difficult for the authorities to prevent the perpetrators from perpetuating the exploitation of these teens in the first place. Seriously though. WTF

I think the private section for the ladies is a very necessary and valuable resource And yes you're right we do have a section to post bait and switch and dangerous situations. Just wondering, outside of whether or not you feel we need it, do you feel it would some how be a bad thing if hobbyists had a private section? I'm honestly just curious, no disrespect intended.

Suki is Very Enthusiastic. Skin smooth as silk. Great Great Skills. Hard hard tummy. Tiny little waist and sexy little round bum. Small sexy little boobs. One of the most beautiful heads of hair a girl could have. Her positioning, and seductive movements were fantastic. She had a cup of "not to hot" but hot water by the bed. She'd sip some in her mouth and then....well if you want to know that you'll have to find out for yourself. Shes a full out pleaser. See her ad on bp. Her agency vipotg has really been bringing it...

She absolutely legit. She's from bodylanguageent.ca And I checked their tour schedule and Lianne is "as per advertised on bp" in Halifax now. Body language is sending beauties down hear often. Some sites you may want to get on the emailing list of are: bodylanguageent.ca mgf-canada.com vipotg.com (hot asians) gardenofedenescorts.com These sites email when they are sending girls so you can often book before they publicly advertise. Additional Comments: Oh, and here is her cerb link: http://www.cerb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=152624 Good luck.

Izzy, you might save a lot of people from your experience if you posted her as a bait and switch in the appropriate section. :)

I think the private section for the ladies is a very necessary and valuable resource And yes you're right we do have a section to post bait and switch and dangerous situations. Just wondering, outside of whether or not you feel we need it, do you feel it would some how be a bad thing if hobbyists had a private section? I'm honestly just curious, no disrespect intended.

24/7 epitomizes that dark deceitful and dangerous side of the industry where clients and providers are put in danger and taken advantage of.

So I went, she was hot hot hot. Small bust but I like that. She was early twenties and her bod was super. Pictures real. Someone knocked half way through our session tho. Turned out her boss double booked. So cadence had to ignor the knock when it came. Good tho.

Thanks for the update. I'm booked. I'm thinking (and hoping) that the voice on the other end of the phone is not the provider as it sounds old and washed up. I think the "902" area code number must be being forwarded to their home base in, I'm guessing, Toronto.

I remember when she was here last. Couldnt get a hold of her. Sexy looking little thing!

I had it happen to recently. I've heard the service providers have a private section just for them to warn each other of bad dates. I wonder if a private section should be created for the hobbiest? I do agree however that just because the pictures are of the actual person it should still be considered a bait and switch because they are deceptive. And the fact that there was an enforcer means the possibility of danger. I for one would like to know so I don't make the same mistake.

she caught my eye as well. I find Vipotg is pretty good. I'm not sure if the pictures are real but I've always found the girls pretty attractive. Than whole calling you back thing is not cool. I had a provider text me her number unexpectedly on two different occasions because she was coming to town. The first time I gave her my email and said please don't text me. The second time, well I was annoyed the second time arond. so mach for discrete!! I'm thinking about it. If you do let me know and if I do I'll let you know...deal?

What is MFC? ;) J

Me too please

Your absolutely right

Your absolutely right oldblueeyez. Another lesson learned.