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Dear Mod, I would have to disagree with your assessment of the situation. I have followed my BBFS thread and Peachys BBBJ thread from start to finish and don't see where it is becoming out of control ... long in the tooth maybe (lol) but nasty??? Yes there as been some asinine comments about our lovely ladies reducing their rates to compensate for no BBBj service and I can see how they would take offence to such comments. Some might even have taken a harsher than normal tone to express this but never out of control IMO. For a newbie like me I found the discussions, for the most part, to be very informative, healthy and helpful. It also seemed to be a very passionate subject for most ladies on this site and I think (I might be wrong here?) seemed to help liberate some pent up frustrations on certain aspects of their work. To echo another posters opinion on the direction the discussions were heading: "If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen!". Nobody forces anybody on here to join or read specific threads. That's my 2 cents!

I have, many months ago, but didn't write a reco. You can PM me for details if you want.

TOUCH MY MONKEY!! covered or not!! ;)

Great question! Thinking about it I was more surprised than concerned. I wasn't the best informed customer out there since I hadn't found Cerb yet but I had some knowledge that the bbbj was of lesser risk to me than to her. Now I had a very good idea of my own health status so I knew I wasn't putting the SP at risk and is why I rolled with it ... and continued receiving it when it was offered but never asking for it as I believe it is a privilege. However, DATY I wasn't informed on at all and therefore didn't partake in the offering even if she told me it was fine! (see, both sides have their issues!!). Once I read on it and found that the "relatively" lower risk was acceptable to me I started doing it with a selected few ladies I felt comfortable with, a comfort level established through either one-on-one discussions with fellow hobbyists or established through repeat visits. On the subject that my Sweet little Jasmine ;) brought up about the tangent that this thread as taken on the "deal making" or "rebates" ... sorry I don't know how to do multiple quotes in one post :( ... I want to be on record saying that I seek first and foremost a passionate encounter, one that transcends the mere sex act. Therefor I pay for my overall experience with the lady and not a "by the numbers" menu board. It wouldn't be GFE otherwise.

Of course my analogy was never meant to compare risks levels. I can assure you that I'm not that intellectually challenged! My argument was more on the level of "changing business trends" and businesses' sentiment towards their customers. Wether we like it or not businesses evolve, most times for the better and sometimes for the worst. It is the responsibility of all parties involved to make sure it does so in a mutually beneficial way. Consumers will always ask for more and businesses have to temper unreasonable demands but cannot chastize the whole clientele when a "retailer/service provider" common front breaks down and acquiesces to those demands. Some of the blame has to go to the businesses involved also. Comes down to a "did the chicken or the egg come first": did the consumer take that product offering because it was first offered to him or was it offered because he asked? If I look at my own personal experience in the matter at hand, DFK , DATY and BBBJ was offered to me when I started the Hobby this past fall without me asking for it. I was very surprised about it because my previous encounters of many years ago when I sought the service in between GFs was all business, with minimal skin contact and all services covered. Now is it my fault that I suddenly, today, "expect" in some sense (but will never "demand" I assure you) to receive these new services since that's what was proposed to me on a regular basis from providers?

I may be out of line here since it's a little hard to feel "intent" in posts like these but I sense a certain bitterness coming through the post from many ladies on this thread. A bitterness directed towards their clientele for their changing tastes and expectations. In a competitive and capitalist market as the hobby, which it is wether we like to admit it or not, there will always be an evolution of product offerings as clientele's tastes change. I for one can relate to this as I am myself in the retail and service business and have not always been happy with the changes brought upon by the market. But in the end I measure the pros and cons and decide to continue on or switch fields. Of course I'm not advocating giving in to all customer demands, especially when a persons heath and well being is concerned, but at some point in time a retailer decided it was a good business decision to sacrifice family time to open on Sundays, just like a service provider decided it was a good business decision to start DFK and both eventually became the norm. Now who's to blame for this? The retailer/service provider for offering the service or the customers who asked for it? ... Think about it! To blame or resent our clientele for their changing expectations is a dangerous slope to be on. We need our clients to survive, they are not the enemy. If we feel they are, maybe our field of work is not for us anymore. We also have to be careful not to apply what annoys us about a limited number of "bad clients" to our entire clientele. It is always easier to remember the one guy that complained over the 10 that said "thanks"! P.S.: I know my analogies are fairly simplistic but I didn't have the time or the inclination to write a complete essay on the subject.

My dear Peachy, if you're concerned about losing your customers go read my "repeat" (3) recos of SweetJasmine, she's 100% safe GFE!!

Am I having a race with Luckyme here or what? lol Seriously, this is now my third visit with Jasmine and it just keeps getting better and better. You know, when you first start out in this hobby you assume a lot of things, like: you're only looking for sex, the ladies are only looking for cash and don't give a crap about you, repeating will be boring why not sample as much as possible. Then you meet someone like Jasmine and all those assumptions are thrown out the window. She is the true definition of GFE, all you really want from a GF ... minus the bitching!! lol ... I mean she is always super happy to see you, she's truly interested in what's happening in your life, she kisses so passionately you'd think she's truly in love with you, the sex is so sensual that even when it gets really heated it's never "dirty" ... well it is, but isn't, you know! lol ;) ... With her you forget about all your worries, like you're on Passion Island. Warning to the PSE fans, she is 100% safe sex. Daty is on the menu (YMMV) and it is sublime. She moves very well when you're down playing with kitty, instructing you so subtlety with her hips and moans. She is completely shaved (my preference) and she always smells wonderful. Once she's brought you to ecstasy (many times on some occasions!) she loves to chit chat and hug and never watches the clock or rushes you to the door ... Yes, definitely working my way to 10, if not more!

Although I enjoy a good bbbj ... and Peachy yours was out of this world btw ;) ... I have to side with you and Vanessa on this that maybe cbj is the way to go now. I mean if bbfs is to become more prevalent ... and God let's hope it doesn't!! ... it will make the whole GFE thing a little scary, including DFK which I soooo don't want to lose. BTW thanks for all the support and replies ... and especially to all you classy ladies who are helping me keep faith in the hobby!! ;)

Hi Everybody! I don't know if I'm too much of a newbie to start a thread, especially one on such a strong subject but it's one that I feel very strongly about: BBFS in the Hobby, I don't get how anyone can justify it. Browsing other boards that are, lets say, less politically correct than this one I see an increasing amount of talk around either more and more SPs offering BBFS ... one post even had a link to a BP ad near TO where the SP has it listed in her extras!! ... or johns asking for it, sometimes very aggressively according to some ladies. It seems prevalent enough that they even started a board dedicated to the pursuit of this dangerous activity!! (I won't promote it here) Unless I'm really behind the times and some new miracle cure as been invented for all STDs isn't this pretty much the most dangerous activity to experiment in? Also, being a DATY lover this "trend" is scaring the living crap out of me. Aside from the very obvious heath risks involved (HIV being at the top of the list), the thought of ... squeamish people turn away now! ... licking up someones sloppy seconds is totally disgusting!! ... call me a prude but I won't even snowball my own stuff! lol Levity aside I don't want to die, or be incapacitated, from this hobby because a few morons (male and female alike) want to play russian roulette with their sex lives. Now a few posters, again on other boards, have suggested starting screening new SPs when booking by asking if they provide the service as if you want it, the logic being they will then expose themselves more freely. Really not sure about this one, First I would need to play the creep (not my style), and second using this method might put me on the blacklist with the careful, reputable ones and ruin my rep. I mainly repeat with 2 lovely ladies I'm very comfortable with but I like to "explore new territory" once in a while so a screening method would help ease my mind. Any comment on the subject ... from both Service Providers and fellow hobbyists ... would be appreciated. Also, I'm very curious as to what the general consensus on the subject is? Am I overreacting here or is it as dangerous as I feel it is? Is it something that's more prevalent in other market/cities where competition is more fierce?

I booked an appointment this past Sunday with the lovely Hannah after seeing her picture on the home page of this site and remembering seeing her before. It had been a year since my last encounter with Hannah. I remembered a very sexy spinner with an incredible derrière and that hot "naughty secretary" look I like so much. I also recalled a somewhat shy person that was a bit timid rendering her services ... good but timid. Boy what a difference a year makes!! What I found on Sunday was the same intensely hot body, the same super sexy looks but on a woman with a newfound confidence in herself that just blew me away!! She now fully uses her body without hesitation, moves like a feline (and purrs like one also! lol), initiates the action and has mastered the art of teasing. Her body slides were very naughty and her hands are mischievous! The best way I can describe my encounter is that it felt like a very hot lap-dance-massage! It was my first time at Paradise Spa. The room was very nice, clean and well decorated. The in-room glass shower and sink are very practical and a nice touch. All this only adds to the excellent service I received from Hannah. Unfortunately I won't be able to repeat as often as I'd like because the location is out of the way for me but repeat there will be none the less, she is well worth the drive!!

I consider myself a gentleman so I'm really not a fan of the explicit, crude lines. What gets me interested are confident statements about your skills and the type of connexion you are looking to establish with me. I look for proper grammar and spelling as a sign of maturity (not of age but of character) and also a sign of compatibility on an intellectual level. Finally a great sensual and sexy photo showing your true body type is essential. A list of acronyms of the services you provide is also very helpful. Hope this helps you out.

First off, what are the odds of having a sexy rendez-vous with a beautiful east-indian girl in a 7 eleven?!! ... room 711 to be exact! lol ... like Apu would say: "Thank you, come again!" ... and I did!! Wow! our "dates" have twice started with a good laugh but have both times been followed by intense, passionate and ultra sensual sexual encounters. I stop just short of using the L-making word!! ... Oh yah! it's that good and passionate! Of course YMMV here, and I can't promise you'll have the same connexion with her as I did but treat her right and you'll be well rewarded. She is extremely attentive, very passionate/romantic (if you're into that), she is FAR from a clock watcher and she is just gorgeous! She's a true little spinner, awesome little ass and a oh so tasty pus... oups! let's stay gentlemanly! lol There will definitely be a repeat ... or 10!!

After a few emails back and forth with Bob54 where we discussed our likes and dislikes he suggested I meet with Jasmine, that she would fit my "likes" to a T ... and Bob I must say you were spot on! Big Thanks!! I met with Jasmine for an hour today and had just a wonderful time. I was greeted at the door of her luxurious hotel room by this natural exotic beauty, so petite but with the right amount of curves. Spinner sometimes is mis-used to describe "too thin", well let me assure you that it isn't the case with her. She is fully a woman but in a very petite frame: Nice perky breast, small but round booty ... Mmmm! So I freshened up with a quick shower and joined her on the bed for some chit-chat. We quickly moved on to some passionate DFK (a real turn-on for me) and she was a sublime partner to enjoy this with. If, like me, you enjoy sensual foreplay she will satisfy you fully! She moves so well, moans so well, changes pace so well ... are you seeing a pattern develop here? lol She is oh so beautiful to look at that I completely lost track of the stupid, psychedelic, completely irritating cartoon she was wathching on TV when I got there ... sorry inside joke between the 2 of us ... but seriously, it would normally be a distraction but our session was so passionate, our 2 bodies working in perfect rhythm, that we completely lost track of what was going on around us. Unfortunately for you this is how far I'll go in my description of our session, I try to stay a gentleman, but I can say that she easily brought me to ecstasy, twice! ;) What I also greatly appreciated about Jasmine is that I never felt rushed or running out of time. Actually I'm the one who brought up the time issue since I had a business meeting to get to after. Even though we had never met before we were able to laugh (out loud!) together and enjoy each others company and not just our bodies ... well I was enjoying hers mostly!! lol Until next time my Sweet Jasmine...

Just to add to Hotshots' post, I've been with Irissa and she is a VERY talented provider. So from reading this post and thinking back to my time with Irissa I must say that the thought of having a 3some with both ladys sounds freaking amazing. Book yourself here I come!! LOL ... Oh and BTW, the girls managing the appointment schedule at the other end give an exceptionnal level of customer service, very curtuous and accommodating, don't be afraid to go through the checking in process.

My sweet Alicia smiles his her email address and what a smile she has! She was formally know as Adorable Chloe for those who were wondering and advertises on EC. Today was my third visit with Alicia since I discovered her in december and as always she rocked my world. I'm more about sensual sex than circus acts and so she fits my tastes just perfectly. She's a tease, a flirt and a naughty girl but always in a classy adorable way. So if you're into true GFE you will be well served with this little gem. I'm not the kind of guy who goes into graphic details about my encounters but I have to say that her DFK is simply intoxicating and her BBBJ (ymmv) is out of this world. When she stares back at you with those big beautiful eyes of hers while pleasuring you, I don't think anything can top that. What is also amazing about her is the fact that she really cares about you while you're with her. Always looking out to see if your needs are met, if you need a drink, setting up the bathroom for you and so on. Like a true GF in the honeymoon phase! lol I keep coming back to her because, contrary to other SPs I've seen, I feel like I'm on a date rather than I guy getting "serviced". We talk, we laugh we kiss passionately and we have AMAZING sex ... and we never argue ... What more can a guy ask for? lol Treat her well gents, she's a special little lady! As for her looks and stats go see her add on EC, photos there are 100% accurate, no disappointment there, and I'm VERY picky about a tight body.

This is a little late in coming, so sorry Rain! Rain was the first GFE SP I saw when I started the hobby back in november. I wasn't aware at the time, since she was my first GF experience, that her level of service is second to none ... well except for Alicia but that will be another post on another day! ;) She was very courteous at the door, very friendly and made me feel at ease even though I was very nervous as a newbie. She wasn't my very first SP but it had been a good decade and a half since I called upon an SP, and back in the day they didn't offer GFE. Even though I'm more into the spinner type her skills more than made up for my preference in body type. I'm not gonna go into details about our encounter (I try to be a gentleman) but she did things to me I really wasn't expecting and I can tell you they were good things! Also I never felt rushed, she gave me her full attention (as in no texting on the side or answering phone calls and so on) and was an enjoyable conversation. I hope this post will help a few guys out

I wrote earlier that was p----d I had missed her. Well was lucky enough that she came back to town early. Saw her last Thursday and found a very witty and entertaining little spinner. She has a very perticular way about her, She has almost no filter when she speaks, she is very genuine and extremely funny in a quirky way. Very much enjoyed my time with her, we laughed quite a bit. Of course I'm French so that helped a bit since I heard she sometimes as trouble expressing herself in English.

This little lady is something else. Her services are superb and I'm not just talking about what happens in the bedroom. She is the only one so far in my short hobbyists' career that seemed to genuinely care about her customers. It is never about going through the motions with her. She is engaged, fully there and attentive, wants to please and goes the extra mile with little attentions like asking how your day is going, bringing you water or soda, prepping the bathroom for you, etc... What is so great about her is all that is not to compensate for shortcomings in her SP services, to the contrary, all this is added up on top of her superb sexual skills which just make a visit to her feel like visiting a Bf with benefits rather than a dirty affair! Highly, highly recommend. P.S.: she is a special little lady

I'm kinda new to the hobby and a newbie to Cerb as my status attests so don't fault me too much for being ignorant of certain things on here! ... and sorry for the grammar, I'm french! This was my first "asian encounter" and I must say I was caught off guard on many levels. My overall experience was very good but I still want to give a balanced account of my experience. Here's a list of the things that surprised me the most: First I cannot qualify this service as a true GFE, I did get FS (and a very satisfying one at that) but more on a business like level than on a GF one. It started right at the door where instead of being welcomed with a big hug and a kiss I was treated to a polite shy smile, removal of my shoes and over clothes just like you see in Geisha movies! (lol). Nowhere during our session was I treated to some genuine LFK or DFK ... And before some of you start throwing YMMV at me as an answer, let me just assure you that I take very good care of myself, am in good physical shape and always cleanly shaved and showered ... so maybe it's a cultural thing??? The other thing that caught me off guard, but this time in a very good way, was the shower for 2. Wow! that lady knows how to clean, almost lost it right there and then! It was weird at first to receive such a service, not used to it, but it quickly became very enjoyable. #3 on the list (and again a very good one) is being treated to an awesome DATO without even asking. Didn't even know it was part of the package, but hey if she's up for it who am I to complain!! Last on the list of things that surprised me was the totally awesome massage to end the session. I mean "massage therapist" level quality with a very sensual spin. I couldn't believe how good I felt after receiving it. That alone made up for the lack of GFE. So all in all a very different experience. Can't say I prefer this to a true GFE but damn I say every man needs to experience this level of service and pampering at least once in his life!

Glad to see your reco. I'm a newbie to both this site and the hobby and I seek inputs like this because I've been burned a few times by fake photos in the past. She has exactly the body type I'm looking for and your post his very helpful for when she comes back to town. So p------d I missed her in early January!