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A client needs to remember this is not real. It is a respectful, caring business relationship, and no more. She has chosen to offer her companionship for her own reasons. You may genuinely care for each other, but a life together is impractical. It is unfair for you to expect anything more than her compassion and kindness for the time you spend together by mutual agreement.

I have not posted much lately but this one stuck me as needing a supportive post. It’s the old story. You get what you pay for. If anyone in any line of work is not satisfied that she is being properly compensated how can anyone expect quality service. For me, it is the genuine quality of the experience and the human connection. If you are honest, discrete and provide a quality experience, word will get around and I am sure you will attract quality clients for whom cost is not an issue. Only you know what you need to feel that your compensation is adequate. Anyone who wants to argue over rates is simply disrespectful.

I have been away from CERB for several months and was surprised to see the change. I have no issues with the new look. The same cool people seem to be here plus some new and positive people. For me its the people and the stimulating and creative discussion that CERB is about not the look. As long as that keeps up its all good.

While I emphasize with Emma and Meg's comments I will offer this from a client perspective. I travel several times a year. When in a new city provider references are often required. I have found that ladies will not accept a reference from a provider who does not have a publicly available website. So they are important to clients in that way. Also I think that having a website says that you are a serious businesswoman operating a professional business. I do read them thoroughly and the information is of value to me. It makes the donation clear and introduces the lady's preferences. That saves me from wasting time contacting her if it does not seem we are compatible and thus wasting both our time. For me it will often be a deciding factor in who I contact.

Aww thanks folks. Glad you liked it.

A website is very important to me as a client. Firstly it generally reveals how the lady wants to present herself and gives limitations and preferences. If she has put effort into it, it shows that she is a serious professional. I find it useful to know her rates as it makes it more discrete in providing the donation. Perhaps most important is that if I am going to a new city and need references, most ladies want a reference from and established provider with a publically available website. It assures her that my reference is legitimate.

I think Nicolette us right. If there is no chemistry between the ladies (and that does not mean that they must be interactive) then it will never work. It has to be fun for all. Reality and fantasy don't always meet. Be cautious as to expectations.

Just my perspective. GFE, PSE etc. etc. are all terms defined in the mind of the person using them. They have no fixed meanings. Its not complicated and these terms don't really help in my view. The lady always decides what she will offer. The lady always decides how specific she will be in her advertisements and correspondence. (these days ads should not be specific, in my view) The lady always decides what she will charge. Client decides if he will pay that donation. When they meet nothing happens that is not with her full consent no matter what a website or ad says. Your hygiene, respect and behavior are the major factors in how she will interact with you. If the experience is satisfactory to the client then he may wish to repeat. If not then wish her well and seek someone that meets your needs/desires. Each interaction is unique. Accept that not all are going to work. Sorry, but in this business, yes do your research and find reliable ladies, but ultimately you have to take a chance too. She does on every first date. So I suggest that we abandon all these terms and realize that each provider is unique and focus on good direct communication with each unique provider.

Ahhhhh Monique and Erica! How I regret that I don't get to Ottawa any more. Saw them over 6 or 7 years ago and they still bring a smile to my face when I hear their names.

A client needs to remember he sees only a small slice of her life. She provides the illusion, the fantasy of perfection, and the kind of love built between them is a temporary one, a spiritual one, and not sustainable in daily life. He pays for her eternally good mood and her ability to enhance each session. There is a reason why she is a fantasy woman, and why that ends when they become too close in the real world. It's a fine line. She has chosen and prefers this life for now and the freedom she enjoys in her current lifestyle. Most importantly, she enjoys and needs the time she has to herself and her own life. Just because you are highly comparable and connect for a few hours does not mean that will happen in the broad spectrum of daily life. She may settle down in time, but only when she is ready, and rarely with a man who has paid her for her time in the past. It is a respected, caring business relationship and spiritual love, and nothing more. They may genuinely care for each other, in fact they should. I have a soft spot in my heart for all my lovers but realize that that feeling and affection is best kept within the limits of what both parties freely bargained for. This is part of respect as well.

Let me add my support from the male perspective. Yes you are offering a special form of entertainment but that does not mean that you relinquish your absolute right to consent and to set the terms under which you will give your consent. There is nothing unreasonable about setting your boundaries in this or anything else. You will see that repeated all over this site by responsible providers and clients. I do however echo the recommendation that you clearly set your terms and limitations in advance. Part of the deal is the responsibility of the client to put you at ease by respecting your decisions. No still means no but you will avoid difficult situations if you are clear from the beginning.

I would like to think that CERB members would not do this. My impression is that the vast majority of men who participate in CERB would not want to risk exploitation. I certainly would not. I will go one step further for myself. I date only independents and have enough communication to be comfortable that the lady is in complete control of her decision to engage in this business.

I don't post recommendations unless asked. I think the lady should always at least be consulted and her requests for no reviews or for limiting content be respected. The value is only to know professionalism, reliability, punctuality and discretion. The rest is so individual that it is virtually meaningless. What someone else thinks is "great skills" and the like, is subjective and of no real use to me. Even the personal interaction is subject to individual chemistry. Two good people may still not click through no fault of either, so that is not entirely helpful.

This is indeed a tendency for some and I include myself. Frankly we all know how to self pleasure but seek more. So for me it is an interaction with a whole woman that is of interest. Intelligent conversation and intelectual curiosity in a woman makes me feel more comfortable and compatible; like we are jointly exploring rather than me simply self-indulging. That offers a much more satisfying experience. I am also more comfortable with the ethics and discretion of intelligent women, although I may to be justified in that. I highly recommend the memoirs of Casanova which are available in English translations on the internet. Women liked and bedded him because he loved and respected the company of women. I believe he was sapiosexual. These quotes may explain: Henriette could not open her lips without my discovering some fresh perfection, for her wit delighted me even more than her beauty. .. The happiness which filled me, if I can express it in that manner, was much greater when I conversed with her even than when I held her in my arms. She had read much, she had great tact, and her taste was naturally excellent; her judgment was sane, and, without being learned, she could argue like a mathematician, easily and without pretension, and in everything she had that natural grace which is so charming. She never tried to be witty when she said something of importance, but accompanied her words with a smile which imparted to them an appearance of trifling, and brought them within the understanding of all. In that way she would give intelligence even to those who had none, and she won every heart. Beauty without wit offers love nothing but the material enjoyment of its physical charms, whilst witty ugliness captivates by the charms of the mind, and at last fulfils all the desires of the man it has captivated.

If you want a different experience and like Moroccan food try the Sultan's Tent downtown. I have gone there several times on dinner dates. A lovely escort first recommended it to me. They often have a belly dance show right among the tables which is fun and amusing for both you and your date.

Thanks for the responses

Some members of my gender (male) constantly embarrass me with their ignorance and disrespect. I hope it is some comfort to you that many of us do know how to behave like a gentleman.

I know of no scientific evidence that any substance is truly an aphrodisiac, but you are what you think. Since the erotic really exists between the ears then if you convince yourself that something stimulates you then go for it. There are many ways to create a mood: lighting, music etc. Sharing food and drink naturally create a connection in many settings so it can be great part of setting the mood, but I think it is in the mind only, but that does not mean it is less beneficial.

The neck. The shoulders. The area between the neck and the breasts. I love the feel of those areas and find that many women respond to attention there. Plus it seems like often it is the best place to breathe in the intoxicating scent of a woman.

Does sexy have an age? Not to me. Christly Brinkley (61) Michelle Pfeiffer (57) Sharon Stone (57) Courtney Cox (51) Julianne Moore (51) Cheryl Tiegs (68) Suzanne Somers (65) Raquel Welch(75) and there are plenty more.

And the worst part is that the people who really know and are most affected have little or no voice.

"All that we are is the result of what we have thought. If a man speaks or acts with an evil thought, pain follows him. If a man speaks or acts with a pure thought, happiness follows him, like a shadow that never leaves him." "Thousands of candles can be lit from a single candle, and the life of the candle will not be shortened. Happiness never decreases by being shared." - Buddha

I have generally stuck with women over 30 feeling that there is a higher likelihood of them being mature and responsible. Also I am comforted that they have been around long enough to have fully considered being involved in this business, are comfortable in their own skin and are participating with a fully informed consent. And, like Halifax Man 58, younger girls are not really very often stimulating to me. I also wonder how a client determines if a lady is 16, 18, 19 or 21. How do you ensure that you are not involved with an underage girl if she says she is 18? Do those who see younger ladies ask for ID? Do you take her word? Does CERB do any check before allowing her on this board or just when questions are raised? I am pretty open minded about trying different experiences but I have never seen anyone younger than late 20s due to concerns about this. I would be interested in how people think the risk of engaging an underage girl should be approached.

We should all be thankful for Nikki's advocacy. Her fearless, articulate and persuasive style is what will get results. The sadness is that there are so many brilliant voices that can not be heard but who know the truth. I hope someday Nikki will be seen like Henry Morgentaler - condemned during the fight but a respected hero in the end.

She gets my vote too. Yep I always check her posts. Great job.