Eric Northman

I had this happen to me as well, minus the 'getting caught' part. Someone I saw once started texting me every time she was visiting from Montreal. - She was probably was sending a bulk SMS because I asked her politely to stop a few times and she didn't. Finally I sent a VERY strongly worded text back calling her unprofessional and saying that her texts have ensured that I will never see her again. As far as getting caught, just play the spam card. I get random advertising texts periodically so I would probably just deny, deny, deny that I had any knowledge of the number. Good luck friend...you're gonna need it.

I'm with Alexxxis on this. All inclusive simply means no extra charges. Doesn't mean nothing is off the table but simply that there are no extra fees or surcharges, hidden or otherwise.

If you want pictures of regular women, try http://www.reddit.com/r/gonewild where women and men post naughty pictures of themselves. For the uninitiated, an F or M in the title usually gives away whether it's a guy, girl or a couple. Something along the lines of "{F}eeling frisky in the shower" for example. To be honest, I think gonewild is about 99% women now since there are other gonewild subreddits that are more specific. For example: http://www.reddit.com/r/gonewildcurvy (for more curves) http://www.reddit.com/r/ladybonersgw (for the ladies) http://www.reddit.com/r/GWCouples (for the amateur pornographers) In any event, it's all real people posting naughty pictures of themselves without the aid of professional lighting, makeup, hair and post processing.

Photos of hot guys paired with photos of kitties in matching poses. The awesome is so strong... http://deshommesetdeschatons.tumblr.com/ Additional Comments: This is pretty hilarious. Japan is so full of WTF. TV game show called Orgasm Wars. Gay guy vs straight porn actor. Words cannot describe how awesome this is. http://ohnotheydidnt.livejournal.com/83311470.html

That's probably the biggest issue. Nuance and emotion is often lost in writing. You thought you were funny? Too bad they thought you were being sarcastic. That's why I tend to use a lot of smilies and such. It can really help add that bit of extra context you lose when you can't hear a voice or see a smile. :-D

Penny Arcade made a comic related to the phenomenon, The Greater Internet Fuckwad Theory.

I think we can all agree on one thing. This site is only as good as the contributions from the members so all you lurkers out there, get to your keyboard and write some recos. It doesn't have to be an essay. Even just a simple "I really had a great time with her" is a vote of confidence and probably makes a lady feel pretty good about the encounter.

Easy there Pistol. Don't blow a gasket. Just because I say I don't put much stock in them doesn't mean I don't like them and am not glad they're there. I always write recos for ladies whom I enjoy and I always read recos before I see a new lady. I also understand that YMMV on any encounter so you can't take recos as gospel. One dude's awesome is another dude's 'meh'. I've had a few encounters with reasonably well reviewed ladies that were totally not my cup of tea. Does that mean the system is broken? No, just that YMMV and that chemistry is not always there. As I said, I consider it a red flag if there are NO recos for a lady who has been around for a while but other than that, the majority of my decision will be shaped by my interactions with her. To be honest, the quality of her website and of her posts on this board will also play into it as well. I find some websites off-putting. Fussy, pretentious, snooty, or just not containing any useful information. It's all part of the package of information I use to shape my decision. I imagine many ladies do the same. If some dude is making stupid posts or getting into arguments on the board, it will color her decision of whether to see him or not.

I guess I don't put a huge amount of stock into recos although I usually will read them if I'm thinking of seeing someone I haven't seen before. That being said, I would consider no recos for a provider who isn't new to be a red flag. If you've been around for a few months or more, I would imagine SOMEONE must have had something nice to say right?

I loved some of the visuals. I thought the celery stalks 'scissoring' when they were talking about girl on girl action was pretty subtle. And the banana with nutella...ewwww. :-D

I debated just throwing this into the Randomness thread but I think it raises enough important points for a discussion. uses food to demonstrate the difference between porn videos and real life in less than 2 minutes. Pretty well done. I know a lot of new guys are a little insecure when they're starting out so it might be helpful for them to know that many of the experienced ladies on this board won't find this video surprising. So don't get stressed out...go see someone. They're probably way more understanding than you might imagine.

I think this is a key differentiator between an $80 BP experience vs. what you might get with some of the higher end courtesans on this site. A 'cheap' experience might mean she just lies there and lets you do stuff to her. The kind of experience most of us enjoy is so much more. Personality, chemistry, laughter, cuddling, interesting conversation. We're paying these ladies for so much more than sex and I think it takes a certain special type of person to be able to connect in a genuine way with so many different clients. Edit: This is not meant as any sort of judgement or criticism of "$80 BP girls" but rather a generalized statement that one should expect to get what they pay for. You may very well get a great experience for less money but in general, the world doesn't work that way.

Heh...I could see some great conversations here. "Okay...you're pretty fat so that's gonna cost an extra $20. Balls not shaved? Another $20. And what's up with that mole? That kinda grosses me out so I'm gonna need another $20 for that too." All kidding aside, I think that's pretty much the same thing as negotiating a price with a lady. You're telling her that you don't think she's worth what she's asking and there's no way to not take that personally because what she's offering is herself. Pure and simple.

I think that most of the women here enjoy sex and intimacy very much so if you have chemistry and are a considerate lover, I don't see any reason why there couldn't be real passion. Yes, there may be some acting in some cases but that doesn't mean the experience can never be genuine.

Very interesting. It's going to take a while to sink in but I think you'll be amazed at the weight that has been taken off. Secrets are heavy and even if you don't realize it right away, you've been carrying it for a long time.

Perhaps I'm still new and not as jaded as some but I find money talk in this hobby to be incredibly uncomfortable. To be honest, I rarely even contact a lady unless her rates are clearly posted because I don't want to talk about it. Especially if I'm the one who has to bring it up. Call me a bit of a romantic but I kind of like to not think about the money part and just enjoy being with a lady. If the money is discreetly put in an envelope and dropped on a table and never acknowledged, you can forget about it and just pretend it isn't even a business transaction. Trying to reduce this to a simple dollars for value equation sucks the joy right out of it. I feel sorry for the guys who see it that way because they're missing out. Sharing an intimate moment with someone is not just a transaction, a debit in a column of some budget. If you think this has anything in common with buying a sofa or hiring a contractor, there's something wrong with your soul. You're missing the beauty and magic of the real connection with someone, even if it's just for a while. The last thing I want to do is to introduce discord to jeopardize the chance of finding some real chemistry. So yeah, if this is just about finding a convenient hole to stick your dick in, light 'er up. Maybe her rates are negotiable because she deliberately sets them high so that she has room to move. But maybe she's in a bad way and desperately needs money this week. Is that how you want to "win"? Then go ahead, take advantage. Savor your victory of saving money at the misfortune of another human being. Me, I'm just gonna keep meeting wonderful, sexy ladies and continue to marvel, to be absolutely astonished, that they are so generous as to share themselves with me. Because most of the ladies I've met so far are pretty awesome and I wouldn't have imagined that they'd be available for any price.

You guys can argue this stuff until you're blue in the face but it doesn't change the reality on the ground. Ever heard the saying, "I don't make the world. I just try to live in it."? Wanna try to negotiate rates? Go for it. Be aware though that the consequence is that many of the better ladies here will IMMEDIATELY blacklist you and never see you just for bringing it up. Hope that $20 you were trying to save was worth it. I'll even go you one better. I would bet dimes to donuts that you guys are ALREADY in some ladies blacklists just for having this discussion. It shows a certain level of tastelessness and low class that I expect many of these ladies are not interested in experiencing. But hey, good luck with your bargain hunting. More ladies for me.

The Oatmeal's "Terrible and Wonderful Reasons I Run Long Distance."

"Try this one in the bath"

I have a theory that the closer your two personas are to each other, the happier you will be. It takes a lot of emotional and mental energy to 'act' and pretend to be something that you're not. If you can mostly 'be yourself' in your professional role as well as your personal one, I think it will not be so draining. Not to say that it isn't fun to play a role but truth is an easier path. If you consider 'acting' or 'playing a role' to be a form of lying then some form of truth will the most effective in the long run. My father always told me that what's wrong with lying is that it's an admission of weakness. If you're the strongest, you can afford to tell the truth. - K. J. PARKER, Evil for Evil No mask like open truth to cover lies, As to go naked is the best disguise. - WILLIAM CONGREVE, The Double Dealer When a liar became too skilled at deception, he could lose the ability to discern truth, and could himself be more easily deceived. - DEAN KOONTZ, Velocity And, after all, what is a lie? 'Tis but The truth in masquerade. - LORD BYRON, Don Juan The closer to the truth, the better the lie, and the truth itself, when it can be used, is the best lie. - ISAAC ASIMOV, Foundation's Edge

Unfortunately a threesome is still on my bucket list. Someday...

According to "The Eric Northman Law of CERB Circlejerks", we should need approximately 3 or 4 more posts on this STI/STD thread before it degenerates into an argument about BBBJs. I'm starting a pool. Who wants in? ;-)

Perhaps a better approach for us as clients is to say something about your own status, along the lines of, "I just wanted you to know that I was just at the clinic last month for a test and I always practice safe sex so I should be clean." That kind of opens the door for the conversation. Then maybe you could then follow up with a "how often do you go?" or something non-judgemental that doesn't imply anything. Yes, we can probably assume all the ladies on here are diligent but I think some clients just might want the warm fuzzy feeling from having the discussion.

I don't think robots having sufficient personality to compete with real humans is anywhere close to years away. I'm not convinced it will happen in any of our lifetimes. Love to be proven wrong though.