nsawinnipeg

It's hard to answer that question, primarily because I do not know what your definition of "active" is. For me I had some girls there who always had their hands on me and were pleasant and talkative, but I left feeling like it was a waste of my time. In fact, one of the hottest girls that I had a session with there, I am pretty sure she was a straight up lesbian, and even though she knew the mechanics of making a guy feel good, the fact that she does not like the male anatomy left me with an unnatural feeling in the end. So it's a hard question to answer, for me it all boiled down to chemistry, we had pretty good chemistry so the time flew by with her and I always left perfectly satisfied. She knew how to turn me on, she flirted and teased me, sometimes she even slapped me around a bit, lol, so I guess in that sense she was pretty active, but as with everything in life, ymmv. Best thing to do is go try her out. Also I know this is a thread for Shayla, and as great as she is, I also recommend Kelsa, she is just as great, but in a compleatly different way. She is the opposite of Shayla, she is the Yang to Shayla's Ying, or is she the Ying to Shalyla's Yang? you decide, I cant say, go try them both out, either way tell Leanne at the front desk that I say hello.

Shayla was one of my regulars for a really long time, she is really great looking and has a great personality. I really miss her.

Leanne is the dark haired lady, she is the bomb, Sometimes when I went there and the attendant was busy and I had to wait I would just talk to her and she would talk back to me and she always made me feel more at ease than some of the attendants, she is pretty real, and she has a hell of a rack too ;)

So after a month of following the forums and much much thought about whether or not to revisit my old hobby, I finally make up my mind and I decide to find someone who catches my eye. I had 3 girls in mind from the reviews and then one day one of the 3 (Shannon) sends me a PM replying to a thread. I say, yeap this is a sign, she seems pretty great, I'm going to choose Shannon. The day after I reply and she seems willing to meet. So 2 days later, today, I send her an email and I get an automated reply that she is retired. So I ask you fellow Hobbyists; Is this a sign to not return or is it just bad timing? Your thoughts Pls

Just saw it too and was about to post.

From reading this post I can tell that I am not in the majority, and that my opinion will not be liked but I feel I have to say it. I don't know that this list is such a good idea, in fact I think it is a terrible idea. I am not trolling or hating on anyone, that is not my intention, I am simply trying to put myself in the shoes of the MPs whose names, contact information, and work places would be circulated by anyone with 20 reviews of SPs. 1) Just because someone posts 20 reviews does not mean he has seen those 20 SP's. LE can set up a fake user and make 20 reviews over a 3 month period and then have access to all of this information; not to mention RTMs who could do the same just to get access to the list so that they can find out if they have any employees on the list. We are not only putting their careers and freedom in jeopardy, but also their reputation and personal safety, namely since they are not SP's who work under fake names, but real girls using their birth names. 2) CERB is providing this service already. They have full time moderators and forums and most importantly, a place for these providers to put their names out there if they want too. Yes you have the freedom of speech to give random strangers the names of women who have trusted you enough to take a chance with you, but I think that they also have the right to anonymity. These forums offer both, a place for hobbyists to share experiences and information, and a place for SPs and MPs to advertise and get exposure if they so choose to do so; there is a reason the DND list exists and having this VIP list would completely bypass the safeguards that this forum provide. 3) Just because she did it for you does not mean she would do it for others. I know that I have never had the guts to ask a legit MP, someone who went to school and chose to give massages as her profession, to give me a HE. That is not to say that this is not a fantasy of mine. If I ever get the chance I would probably leave a SP sized tip for the girl, just for the privilege of being able to fulfill this fantasy of mine. And just like I fantasize about it, I am sure that there are plenty of MPs who also fantasize about doing something like that. So, if they did it for you, it might just have been that, a way for them to fulfill their fantasy. This does not mean that now they want to start servicing all of their clients. Keep in mind that they have this option if they want to do so and they probably can find enough clients on their own to fill up their day with R&ts. Most likely, if you had to convince her, she was probably doing it more for her than for you, you got a happy ending and she got to step outside her comfort zone and grow as a person. 4) My guess is that a lot of these girls on this VIP list probably told you, the person who added their name to that list, to keep it between you guys. If she asked that of you she probably asked it because she had her reasons, and she thought you were stand up enough to respect her wishes. These are not SPs who are choosing to get into the field and who are protected for the most part by anonymity and who lead 2 separate lives; these are girls who are completely exposed and who only have one life that life corresponds to the name that you put in that list. I am not anyone's mother to tell them what to do, and I certainly have done my share of shitty things in life, so I am not one to judge, but I really hope you guys get these girl's permission before you go putting their lives at risk by putting them on some pass around list. If you really want to help her bring in more clients then refer her to this site and have her open up a SP profile, the rest will take care of itself.

Since this is the massage thread, does Shannon offer Massages with MP rates or SP rates?

I go to walk in clinics where they don't know me. I know the facts pretty well already and the doctors at walk-ins will just give u a 2 minute talk about safe sex and full disclosure with partners if you are positive, and that is only on first visit. After that is just business as usual for them. Everyone gets tested now a days, so its not as big a deal for them any more. If you know the facts pretty well, then just go to random walk in clinic, if you want a nice refresher then go to 9 circles. Hope this helps. Additional Comments: It is also good to just go check them out and see what other resources they offer, from what I hear they are a pretty good community resource.

Indie SPs provide GFE, PSE and many more services. For the most part I believe these services include FS. You do not get FS at EB/TO. And an indie will provide the pampering with the GFE, YMMV. When I was full time hobbyist I had a regular GFE SP and a regular MP at EB/TO. The 2 experiences are completely different. With the Indie SP offering GFE it is supposed to feel like you are with your girlfriend, but sexier ;p and for the most part it, IMHO, it feels like being with my GF. But that means that I try to make sure that her needs are meet too. I do not know if I am successful or not, since making me think I did is part of the service, but I try. It becomes performance based. I want to perform. I go through my list of skills and knowledge to make sure she has as good a time as I do; Hopefully along the way I learn something new to try out next time around. At EB/TO there is worrying about anyone's needs, its just straight pampering in a very calm seductive environment. The last 5-10 minutes are performance based, but only on her part ;p. When I leave a SP provided I leave happy and satisfied, when I leave TO/EB I leave happy and satisfied, but also completely calm and relaxed. And yes I know I sound like a self advertisement, but I am nothing more than a very happy and satisfied hobbyist sharing my experiences.

Dude I can't believe you called Shayla a MILF. She is a young sexy thing ;) Additional Comments: Someone mentioned that 45 minutes is more than enough. Yes technically it is enough; U get in the tub, rub down and chat for 20, then 15 min massage and 5 min HE. But if you are just focusing on the HE then you are missing the whole point of the place. Its not called TO/EB, its called Its called Time Out/Executive Bath; its an executive bath where you go for a time out. First of all, it is immaculate, CLEAN and discrete. They have a tub downstairs that easily fits 6 people, that's you and 5 girls if you really wanted ;p. There is a giant hot shower right next to the tub if you get tired of being pampered in the tub, where where you can fit 5 beautiful girls if you wanted to, and they will love to soap you up under a hot shower, and if u are all soaped up, then guess what, now you get to soap up your beautiful girl(s). And then there is the "massage table"...No need to go into details with that. The girls there are trained to pamper you, they get on their knees and towel you off, and all of this inside a hot steamy mirrored room. I've been offered FS there before, but never went for it, because I go there for a "time out" and to be pampered like a king, and in my experience FS takes the girl's frame of mind away from pampering you to a state of mind that is performance based. I live in a performance based world and I go there to forget my worldly worries. Sneak a bottle in, play some tunes on your phone and book 2 hours with 2 girls in room 4 downstairs, it will be an experience unlike anything you have ever had.

I am kind of in the same boat. Can someone who is familiar with the place provide an answer for those questions for me too

I think it has been said before. Just be up front and ask the SP if she is ok with it. Then just put it out of your mind and enjoy the companionship. your interactions with her, the chemistry you build up, that is what really matters. The last time I was with a SP before I took some time off I was with my regular companion and in our sessions GFE MSOG was just how we did things. However, since I knew that it was going to be my last time seeing her, perhaps ever, I just wanted to hold her in my arms, get lost in her frizzy hair and just talk to her. But oblivious of the situation, thinking this was just another evening together, and wanting to enjoy herself, she kept trying to initiate another SOG. I tried to redirect her as much as I could, but eventually she broke through and we started again. But I didn't want anything other than to have my arms around her, I was wasting my time trying for another SOG. So I pulled a Kramer and faked a shot on goal. Needless to say I'm no Kramer and my acting skills were lack luster and she figured out what I did and spent the next 5 minutes thinking she had injured me, poor girl kept trying to inspect my junk to make sure I was not in need of medical attention lol. I had to tell her why I didn't want another SOG and we were finally able to do what we needed to do, which was to just enjoy each other's company one last time. SOG and Benjamins is what originally brings us, hobbyists and SPs, together; But its the acceptance and companionship that we find in each other that keeps us coming back. If you both can get past those 2 things, SOG and Benjis, then you will stop being a Hobbyist and a SP, and you will become what you really are, a Companion to each other.

Vandal Vixen, a porn starlet out of Montreal, she tours across Canada every once in a while. Have not seen her in a couple of years. She is a little pricey because she tries to upsell everything, but if you get her going she squirts over and over again. On our last session she soaked 4 sets of sheets over 2 beds lol.

Bottom line for me is MPs are a money making enterprise for the owners and the sp's get the shaft, literally and figuratively. However, MPs are an essential service because they provide a way for the girls to make some good cash in a clean and safe environment providing an experience that we the hobbyists want to enjoy. So I guess what I'm trying to say is either S**t or get off the pot @Nes. you either provide an essential service or you don't. If you do then tell your girls what services you expect them to provide and respect their choice to either go to a strait up RMT office or stay there and provide the services you want to provide at your establishment. Also, can anyone tell me where this place is? I would like to try it out.

I know this is a bit off topic, but I went to a high end MP in Van and the charges were ridiculous just for the MP and on top of that I had to tip the SP full SP charges. I was so pissed. I had a regular high end SP in Van, she always charged me high end rates, but I have never regretted a penny I spent with her. But this MP after I paid over $700 I was rushed through my session and given the kind of customer service I'd expect to get at a BK drive thrw. Never again. The worst part is that when I left I felt guilty for the SP because I knew dam well that the MP was probably going to take a cut from her and so in the end I knew that she really made very very little money from that session, even by cheap Winnipeg standards. That MP is the reason I refuse to go to MP's or get agencies. I like indies, and knowing who and what I am going to get for what I want to spend. Can't do that with agencies. Having said that TO/EB in my experience have not been like that and that is why I have not taken them off my shopping list ;p