Liv Waters

Well, I wouldn't call it crazy but the most unusual gifts I've received from a client came from a gentleman I saw regularly a number of years ago. He owned a boutique type food shop. He kept me fully stocked in deli meats and cheeses for like two years ;)

Kiss her! Yum ;P Morning delight or an evening romp?

I'm up front about my height, and, it has never really been an issue. If anything, being somewhat taller seems to bring novel advantages...Given that I almost always greet my clients at the door in 3.5 or 4 inch heels, which bring me to around 6 feet tall, if there have been any comments about my height, it is usually about how turned on these gents feel by my stature....and likely all the much closer my breasts come to their face ;P ...and that goes for clients I have had of all heights. Here and there, I've had a client express relief at my eventually removing my heels, which is also sweet. Recently I did an outcall to visit a gent at his hotel who was around 5 foot 6. at the end of our session, he remarked that, even though he knew he'd be receiving a tallish woman at his door, he found himself astounded at the feeling of my stature in front of him...as he put it, a bit intimidated, but at the same time exhilarated. I adore and can be turned on by men of all heights...and shapes and sizes for that matter.

It's so great that you started this thread PisaqLove! Ok, my questions are: In the course of your hobbyist experiences, what has surprised you?...what have you learned?... or discovered?...how have those things spilled over into other facets of your life?

I would say, "be still. What is your heart's desire?...come stay with me a while; let's touch and taste each other....then see how you feel about things after" :)

I would have to say that some of the things I like least about my work have to do with stigma and judgement....as some of the other lovely ladies have already spoken to on this thread...but, in particular, for me, I find myself most impacted when it has unfolded during sessions with certain clients over the years....thankfully, not frequently enough to remotely make me stop loving my work...but there have been certain moments, often in the unsaid, the subtle glances and words where I can tell that it has been important for a client to maintain a sense that he is above me; somehow morally superior, more knowing and able to remove himself from some sense of the 'unsavory' he finds about my work. I suppose I am most impacted by this because, despite the obvious fact that there is a sacredness in sharing myself in pleasure and intimacy with my clients, and clearly something about those experiences that are ultimately valued even by a client who would engage in this behavior, that it is even an option to to judge and patronize...that there is a currency to it, is bothersome....hurtful The other judgement piece that irks me is when it's been inferred that my expiry date is about to come up, as though being anything past thirty puts me in a danger zone of becoming spoiled milk, lol! Interestingly enough, I have experienced this with a number of with clients who would find me to be on the younger end of the age range they prefer in an SP. So, the judgments, the inferences, don't even have to match up with the reality (of course they don't)....but there is a sort of paternalism there...and, I've noticed that it sometimes has occurred in contexts where a client is expressing romantic interest in me, and uses that as a card to discredit the idea that I should chose this as a longer term vocation.....to somehow make it seem unnatural. Odd! Sometimes the opportunity presents itself for me to have openly challenged such crap, but sometimes, there is no space for that...and then I chose to exercise the privilege of declining a repeat 'playdate', because there is no replacement, no price tag that can stand in place for dignity and self-love. Great thread Summer! Thanks for starting it :) Ox

Some of the best things I love about my work (there are just so many) are the freedoms and the flexibility it allows me in my life...I can work when I wish, take time off when I wish, and choose the people, the gentlemen I wish to spend time with. I also love turning men on for a living; doesn't get better than that in my books!!

Now, that's awfully yummy! Additional Comments: mmm, meaning this one ;P

While there were times in the past where it was essential that I keep details about my work private from many people, the secret life thing never worked very well for me... I'm only speaking for myself here, of course, but, it's alot of work to keep things heavily compartmentalized....and I value the continuities between my many selves too much to keep my life as an SP separate. My son knows what I do, my family and friends know, and I like it that way. :)

Thanks for posting Emily! I'm a big fan of Laura Agustín's work :)

I see this research as so problematic!...to engage a study about the sexual lives and insights of sex workers is one thing....to expose us to various stimuli and read our bodily responses (using thermal measurement)...to make inferences about the sexualities of Service Providers as a result, reeks of the age old scientific methods that have been used to speak authoritatively about the lives and bodies of sex workers. Interviews and structured questionnaires are hardly the makings of 'having our say'; be realistic and forthcoming about the limited range of responses implied by such methods, especially in a controlled laboratory setting (think institutional violence). There may be no supposed 'health risks' involved but there are social risks...social impacts involved. But, everything will be ok right? Just keep 'replicating' your study ongoing and soon you'll have the go-ahead to generalize your findings to all of us. Keep beefing up your database :( One word, gross.

We drink the wine of our own blood , aged in the barrel of our souls. We would gives our lives for a sip of that nectar, Our heads in exchange for one drop. -Rumi

Housework, lol Salty or sweet?

Being a hedonist and eating pizza with banana peppers naked..inadvertently touching my pussy some time after and then desperately running to the shower to put out the fire! Happened the other day. I'll never do that again!

a light roast with just cream...

White lace full back panties ;)

Seeing a Cardinal outside my window :)

dancing...grooving...here I go!

Listening to "The Healer" by Erykah Badu

fuck it like you mean it... (Can you tell what kind of mood I'm in today? Mmmm, demanding :)

Dying over here!! haha! Additional Comments: That was too good Emily :) Additional Comments: Mmmmm, rum balls and lemon squares....Couldn't stop. Sugar overdose. It was worth it :)

Respectfully, some of the searches of the spas went down differently than they did for indies working by themselves with four officers showing up at the door. There is an issue of duress to factor in. To attempt to exercise your rights when you expect a client to show up and it's the police is extremely difficult, at best. SPs have reported feeling pressured to show their ID regardless of their official rights. Some have noted that they felt obligated to let the police into their spaces because they did not want all of the attention that a group of people like this would bring to their incall space. And, technically, the body house laws are still on the books. More, if working out of an apartment, one can be evicted if the building manager or landlord gets the hint that you're providing sexual services from your residence (no running businesses allowed). Complaining to the police on an individual basis does little when this is a national initiative. Instead a number of sex workers rights organizations and allies are taking the challenging piece on in a joint way.

Thank you Mod, for putting it like it is. Far more damage and rights infringements are going on as a result of this initiative than so called 'good'. It's exhausting when people who access the services of SPs on a regular basis do not take the time to process the implications of it all; that is, before writing empty, self-righteous words about how it's good the police are protecting 'the exploited ones'. I refer here to a lot of the garbage I'm seeing on a couple of the other major boards I belong to. Police are using a whole variety of highly problematic social profiling methods to target certain service providers, in particular. What do you think it does to a sex worker when a group of officers show up at their home or hotel?....it is distressing!...and will, in many cases, compromise the working situations that these SPs work so hard to set up under the radar. Targeting a whole labour group in this fashion is WRONG. It further damages trust and alienates sex workers from the police. And, it fails to take into account the various reasons why those working under coercive or abusive conditions do not approach law enforcement and other authority figures in the first place. Sex workers of a variety of working circumstances are largely unable to report sexual assault to the police, that they have been robbed, or are experiencing stalking or harassment due to the stigma and the laws...We still don't know what's coming ahead in terms of policy, but we now have officers posing as paying clients to gain access to workers in our community. People are being intimidated into providing their ID....have their incall locations compromised, and, quite often are having their premises inspected in a similar fashion as would be expected when a search warrant is issued, but without any legal basis or grounds for doing so. On another board, I noted one person compare these situations as being a reasonable infringement similar to a ride stop to check for alcohol consumption....I could have reached through the screen. These scenarios are not comparable. Period. Law enforcement and various other agencies acting as extensions of state power have a process of social reparation to undertake with the sex working community...to increase trust, respect, and to redefine what their future relationship will be with us, now that there is a cultural and policy shift where we are being recognized as citizens. This national initiative is greatly hampering such possibilities. To serve and protect, my ass!!

Hey Layah, I'm in Kingston, but have visited a good friend of mine in Smiths Falls once....seems to be a lovely, small community, but I'm really not sure of the market there. I've only seen one service provider advertise as offering her services in the area. I imagine, to make a living of it, you'd have to have access some some wheels and have the ability to travel to see clients in the surrounding areas....either way, not particularly great insight from me here...just some thoughts... Either way, good luck!

Well, to share how I chose my CERB handle is to share how I came to decide on my SP name 🙂 When I was in the industry in the past, I had a quite formal, 'highfalutin' name; a novelty at the time, but it felt stiff and unlike me after a while. My name now has an accessible quality, which is important to me and how I want to put myself out there... a sweet but also a naughty ring to it...conjuring an image of a tarted up woman with a twinkle in her eye, jauntily swinging her 'goodies' side to side 😜