Liv Waters

peppermint tea gin and tonic with lime a nice full bodied red wine...to match me ;P

Listening to Jimmy Necco by Lana Del Rey

Lightly toasted :) Gossip or reflective conversation?

Just saw this...such considered and well put responses!

Fuck me large ;-P

I'm surfing Cerb, listening to Amy Winehouse and drinking wine :-) Life's good!

Well, the stroke of your cock....er, I meant, midnight has just passed (or has it just begun?) Happy Birthday hot stuff!! Enjoy your day :-) Oxox, Anna

What a great thread!...and a hot sentiment ;-P

I find two things really help me: * Bring it back to simplicity....of doing simple tasks, activities that give one a sense of mastery, or accomplishment...that's tangible....very much along the lines of what MightyPen had to say; and said it so well, I might add! * Give of yourself in an act of loving kindness to someone you care about...to a stranger. Go from there :-)

present for the big booty call 😜

'In the Morning' by Nina Simone...lifts my spirits every time.

Does anyone ask about where to find the "gushers"? ...let me know :biggrin:

:bigclap: I'm doing absolutely nothing....and loving it!

As a girl I wanted to become an opera singer. Now, I sing in the shower. Good enough

Fun with ice cubes blindfolded or hands bound?

I'd like to bone Christian Slater in Pump Up the Volume... And Christian Slater in Heathers. Mmmmmmmmmm. (posted originally by Cleo Catra) I second that motion Cleo! ...Huge crush on Slater back in my teens and I never did totally get over it ;-P Also, I'd be so into some hot action with Nicholas Brody (Damien Lewis) and Carrie Mathison (Clare Danes) from Homeland...love me some AWOL crazies ;-P

(Do I really have to choose?!!) - Long foreplay Raunchy or nice n' sweet?

Nipple sucking :-P (to climax) Laying or upright?

I agree with you Cat. Trafficking laws, and most major proponents of such legislation and related campaigns, including NGOs aiming to eliminate trafficking, end up reinforcing stigma, silencing and violence against migrant workers, and not just limited to sex workers.... Rarely are such efforts aimed at deconstructing or bringing redress to poverty, or unevenly enforced border control measures. We should be suspicious that, to date, very few countries, for example allow for sexual labourers who have been picked up , detained and questioned in such sweeps to actually apply for a visa to stay in that given country. Countries such as Italy are one of the few exceptions. As it stands, international protocols governing trafficking allow for only two options when a worker has been identified as trafficked (a determination often made against the will of these global citizens); you are either a victim or a criminal. And, once you have provided your information, you are then of little value to authorities (and researchers) and are swiftly deported. This provides no meaningful way for those who are being harmed, or who seek protections, including under the law, to meaningfully report their concerns to authorities or even access supportive services. It should be added that these problems are made possible through a whole variety of laws, including, by the way, under what has been often termed the 'stripper visa' policy aimed largely at women seeking to tour as exotic dancers in Canada", and are no longer able to as they are being denied working visas which were previously being granted....of course, driving the truly problematic situations further underground, and making illegals out of workers trying to make a living. Such a law, while purportedly aimed at helping to eliminate the trafficking of women and girls, and deceitful fronts for prostitution, actually does nothing helpful in terms of any of this...more sensationalism, more patronizing policies that do nothing to accord voice, dignity, labour and human rights to those affected. I also agree with mistert, in that, we will have to see how the current legal challenges pan out to know what the implications are. For example, if the 'prostitution' laws currently under scrutiny are struck down by the highest Court (i.e. the Supreme Court of Canada, which is binding) and, in the process, sex workers consequentially have a foothold to access human and labour rights and Constitutional recognition, then there will be some clout to wield at the policy level in terms of redefining trafficking policy, including definitions of what constitutes trafficking, who would be considered to be a trafficked person, and what options would then be available to those caught up in this net. There is also a continuum in relation to sex work and trafficking that exists that muddies the waters, in that; 1) some people are genuinely forced against their will, or tricked into migrating to a country under false pretenses; 2) some are indentured workers who know they will be doing sex work and are under obligation to repay a specific fee for being able to secure their entry into a given country, often with their passports being held or some other power play to guarantee they will comply ( ...problematic, yes, and ultimately a practice supported by oppressive legislation such as that discussed above). In such cases, the progressive sex work literature and many labour activists attest to the fact that many of these workers (not just women I might add) would still choose this situation over remaining in their countries of origin as they are seeking mobility and increased economic opportunities, and to be reunited with family members/loved ones). Due to personal resourcefulness , the assistance of organizations and sometimes even clients, workers are often able to manage transitioning into a less controlled working situation...And, with a more empowering and redefined trafficking policy scope, this has the potential to improve the odds for folks significantly; 3) some of these people are straight up travelling sex workers, quite informed and largely mobile (however undercover and trickily navigated) who have entered countries to work and make money, and still face the threat of being picked up in these sweeps and being made subject to such laws, regardless of the fact that what they are doing...how they see what they are doing....as sex work...as real work that has meaningful purchase in their lives; and, 4) there are those whose personal circumstances have the potential to cut across more than one, or even all of these categories and realms of experience; who may, in fact, have experienced circumstances of profound coercion, or perhaps, indenturement, but who move into other circumstances, including in making a more empowered choice to participate in some form of sex work. (On the last point) This is not uncommon at all...just like it is not uncommon for sex workers who may have always been in the country, and who may have worked in a more marginalized venue, to then have their circumstances change and engage the opportunity to work in another venue. In the course of my community activism, I've been privy to many stories such as this...And, in the case of grassroots activism by labourers who would outright identify as being trafficked at some point (e.g. see the film "Tales of the night fairies"), there is a strong contingent of those who go on to assert, regardless of potential continued marginalization, that 'yes, "I am now a sex worker" who makes choices every day to continue to participate in the industry'. The understanding that "money talks and bullshit walks" carries great currency in the lives of those who engage in erotic labour and who continue to be patronized and harmed by such oppressive measures and attitudes. Of course, in such hopefulness for some structural policy changes or a favorable court ruling, it's important not to get romantic about the system...the current political party system, the courts or legislature... international governance practices, as they have been powerful forces in securing the oppression and economic disadvantage of so many historically oppressed communities...not to mention gross platforms for politicians to self-ingratiate themselves in the media...while, of course, having no meaningful vested interest or concern for the health and human rights of those they speak for, including sex working citizens....wherever a given worker sits on the continuum. As I heard former Executive Director of Maggie's in Toronto recently state at a sex work conference: 'so long as we have difficulty making a connection between the worker who has parted from their own family to come to this country to take care of the children of some affluent couple; the agricultural worker who has lost their ability to farm back home and is now stuck in a compound picking the potatoes we eat every day; and the lived reality of a sex worker, we will collectively remain the self-fulfilling subjects of our own ignorance' (Keisha Scott, indirect, condensed quote). We cannot afford to do this.

I really like what you posted here Cleo. I personally just can't and won't do short encounters like this , but, I don't think that's what these threads about short versus longer encounters end up about anyway (that is the direction this thread has taken); that is, personal preference and mere discussion about the ins and outs of such service offerings. They clearly take on a tone of debasement and abjection and we should all know by now who the stigma largely clings to. To be clear, this statement is not about reducing any one particular comment made by my fellow members to a sum total judgement, but rather, reflects an observation about the overall character such discussion has taken on....and, tends to take on... I was contacted recently by a man who wanted a half hour session with me. When I informed him it was a one hour minimum, he became irate and disrespectful and continued on trying to negotiate obtaining my services anyway...as though I was some sort of irritating pylon to get by to get by to reach his single-minded end-goal. When I told him it was clear to me we were not a good fit due to the hostility I was sensing, he proceeded to tell me I was essentially a 'fat cum dump anyway'. I was astonished. Some say I shouldn't be; that such qualifying, hateful remarks are all around and to be expected here and there if I'm going to remain in the industry. It doesn't matter if it was transparent and pathetic; after all, he'd been interested and turned on enough to contact me! It still hurt, and went to the core of my being. I agree with you, Nicolette (Vaughn), that it is truly upsetting when men seeking our services do not respect our boundaries.....who assert an automatic sense of entitlement to access our time and our bodies without respect for the business model we are going by and the parameters we have set. There is a word for what underpins this; misogyny. This hateful phone call and the length of session of offer, while seemingly a crux of the conflict, was not the problem. So, again, and this is not directed at anyone in particular (at all!), the tone of this kind of discussion so often ends up stigmatizing (mainly) Service Providers while doing little else... Like folks such as Cleo & Kathryn Bardot have highlighted: seek out the services you wish to access, and take the time to inform yourself in advance via ads and personal websites about what is on offer. And, be prepared to accept our answers! And, at the level of our participation on the forum, let's be mindful of how our words and ideas transform themselves from mere subject content and 'free' and 'open' discussion to qualifying value judgments about the relative value of our colleagues, and the customers they bring pleasure to. Service Providers have their reasons for doing things the way they do. It is a highly competitive industry out there. Socio-economic privilege and access to certain markets play a huge role here, as do the personal motivations and short and long term economic goals and needs of SPs in making such determinations about how to run their businesses. Service Providers need our thoughtful care, affirmation and concern. Let's start more threads about that! My two cents! :-) Peace, Anna Additional Comments: p.s. my reference to the helpful commentary offered by Kathryn Bardot on this kind of topic comes from a similarly themed thread entitled "How about 20 or 40 minutes option?"...just wanted to clarify :-)

Love it! Ha!

Respectfully and helpfully stated! :-)

hmmm, sounds familar ;-P Additional Comments: When the conditions are right, and I'm all worked up to it, I absolutely get off on sitting on a horny man's face....69s are awesome too' wouldn't want to do without em', but there's something about making a man take all that I have....making him pay special attention to the task at hand, that I just love!! ;-P Additional Comments: :-)

Pete, so glad you were born and that you gift the world with all you bring to it :-) Happy Birthday!! ox