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Popped in its been a long while abs saw some regulars I've seen before.. Brandi who I never manage to get her attention.. an absolutely stunning brunette spinner I think her name is Havana I couldn't peel her from a table in guess a regular but she was something else

There is a provider that I'm very interested in meeting but I'm having a hard time booking emails she will txt back or email back but only once ... I can't seem to get any rates from her, they aren't listed on her page at all. She is well reviewed on here but I do not think her first language is english. I'm terribly shy on the phone so I can't just call and ask ... even when I meet they generally do all the moves. Anyone have any suggestions on how I can nail down a time with her as well as find out her rates ahead of time? Is it rude to ask in a txt message / email ... I don't know terribly hard compared to some of the other providers who have been very relaxed and easy and up front.

Never saw anything only going from what I was told. Anyway I have had zero luck taking the dancer I like out to dinner and I don't even want anything from her BUT dinner :p So it may be easy for you but its not fir everyone... Or maybe it maybe hard for me but its easy for everyone else... Man.... That's a depressing thought

Dancer told me Friday that she thinks the business is changing and I couldn't agree more SP are cheaper ... Its crazy. She was saying that a brothel addition wasn't needed because it already all happens at the clubs in the CR... I have never seen it but I never really look,for it either

Wow too early I meant to say to assume every dancer goes out to dinner with people who rarely visit her or string clients along with vague promises of coffee or dinner is wrong. But I feel there are probably more girls who string guys along than go out to dinner with them.

I agree big poppa I don't blame them its their job. Of course they are social by nature humans are generally social. And I'm sure for every one girl that goes out,to dinner with a guy, there is 5 guys who are on the hook(how I met your,mother reference) One dancer brought up going to dinner with people who see her then changed her tune and said she never goes out to dinner with people who see her. That isn't to say that all are like that but to assume that every dancer is like that is wrong.. But I'd bet a dollar there are more jaded stories than your going to dinner all-in

I'm in boat.. Saw many a dancer and nothing then one was different or how I react is different I guess... Though eventually truth comes out on when they txt and how some stop answering when they know you can't come out... The brain knows that she has moved on to the next number but the brain sadly doesn't control ... Well nit in the heat of the moment

I know that there are clubs looking at doing this in Toronto and one of the big owners of Vegas Brothels wants to open a Brothel up in Toronto depending on the laws... but the closest law change I've seen is going to a Nordik model which from my very limited information means its not illegal to sell sex ... just to buy it... (Puts all the fault on the client) Wait until you hear an actual law that decriminalizes both the provider and the client and makes it 100% legal to work in the sex trade... then I think it might be possible that Brothels are opening up ... but I find it hard to believe again that one would open in the downtown Market... though BF does seem to have the room unlike other places like Barbs.

I'm a geek.. I collected Cards(magic) as a teenager.. Now some 20 years later I collect comics and models that I build and paint.... No laughing :p remember the geek inherit the earth ;)

I would Say for everytime it comes True... There are 10-15 guys on hooks Just being dragged along..spending money hoping to be the next "one". And You are right they are very good at it.. Makes breaking away very hard... Least you got to see them outside of the club.. I'd love to have that opportunity but I cringe how much harder it would be. I'm sure alot of guys would love to rake it further... I mostly wish I had met some of them under different circumstances, alot of these girls are fascinating people who are amazing to talk to and would make amazing friends under different circumstances.

Well I guess we can say YMMV then no? Additional Comments: Welcome to the boards and no its not secret knowledge its just one of a whack of words that people use... Here is a definition: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=mileage Keep in mind the whole "YMMV" (Your Mileage may Vary) which basically means that every dancer treats every customer differently ... we are all unique butterflies so just because person 1 got "X" experience does not mean person 2 will get the same experience there are so many factors ... like how well the two meshed to the vibe in the room to how each of their days are going ... so while someone can give you hints that "I get great Mileage from "Dancer Y"" You can't expect the same or get upset if you don't get the same treatment... heck you may get better treatment! My personal suggestion is go with Dancers you find attractive and let them guide you how the CR will go never disappointed me.

I'm a baby compared to most of you it seems (Only 39) there was only Table Dances and CR's when I was a teenager (though no touching in the CR at all) ... I lived in Russell I know there was a Strip Club outside of Embrun but I never went to it... but I know my best friend lost his Virginity there ... so I'm guessing it had high mileage even then :P There was a club in Carlsbad Springs but I never went to that either (I worked at the Gas Station Across the street though, used to bring the girls Pizza and stare at the ground ... oh the innocence of youth...). The first club I went to when I was 19 .. (19 years ago) was the Barefax... it was my birthday my friends bought me a CR dance from a Dancer called Mercedes, I remember they had TV's in the CRs and the CR was on the first floor not the second (I didn't go up any stairs) and I she had to take me by the hand to get me there, and even then she got upset because I watched the TV not her, and then she got upset I wouldn't look at her body when she turned the TV off... Not much has really changed ... I go to the club ... I sit by myself, I order 1-2 drinks for the benefit of the club, I don't really watch the stage shows, I watch the TV, I tend to watch how the Dancers treat the people they are talking too when looking for a girl who likes to talk and seems genuine ... I tend to avoid Dancers with names like CoCo, Mercedes, Candy type names (No offense to ANY dancers out there with those names, just I prefer girls who choose names that seem Genuine ... it sells the fantasy for me) Was it better before or now ... I'm not sure we always ALWAYS look at the past with Rose colored glasses... people who looked for Mileage now still looked for Mileage 19 years ago (Hence my friend)... Its 19 years later and I still keep my hands to myself for the most part unless the dancer gets my hands involved herself, and I still tend to watch their faces more than their bodies... I do miss the stage show though ... I remember some stage shows when I was in my early twenties ... we didn't go often to the Fax (normally I would get suckered by being told we were going to Zaphods but when they came for cover charge my buddies were "If I'm paying cover I'm seeing Boobs" and off to the fax we went) Anyway there was some awesome stage shows where girls had actual routines and got the crowd involved with clapping to the music, or high energetic shows ... there are still some dancers that have some great shows but most of them are just more of a advertisement. What I like more now is when the Girls come and sit and chat, and flirt... I'm sure they did it back then too but as a teenager I was looking for different things.

And by fresh .. They mean sucky... I like rock and heavy metal I'm now at a loss for a radio station. The beat wasn't great but I liked 75% of the music played... Now its chez but that's more like 50% foe me. I went to,check satellite radio but 22$ a month is just way too expensive for radio

You get a ticket when you buy a drink and you do your plate and a cook puts the meat on the plate I always tip him a toonie They do steak, roast beef, meatloaf.. Very good I think for the price. A draft beer I think is like 6 something and a small pitcher (2.25 beers) is 8.50

Great post and food read be it SP, MP, or Dancer.. No matter what some great tips for all

Club doesn't get a cut from upstairs at all. And I agree I watched the news ... It was a circus hopefully it dies down

Hopefully not ... I can tell you if I there was a media circus outside of the club I would go find another location...

Funny this is also the type thing that should be shared with new people...even when the girls are honest about it ... Its very hard to keep the lines straight... They excel at keeping focus off the money and on the "relationship" ... You just have to figure if your okay with paying for the company.. Back to the OP .. I think its entirely possible to feel like your cheating on the dancer you regularly see I know I feel that way for sure at times. Though that feeling was never brought on by her in way shape or form, and I even try and point out prospective clients to her as they don't bother me either. But there is a part of me deep inside that says visiting two dancers is wrong ... Silly but its there so I side with another post brought up that some of us (not all) are monogamous ... which is silly because I'm sure the vast majority of clients are married or in a relationship of some time ... and each and everyone of us have a line that they don't believe they are crossing. Additional Comments: Possibly ... I"ve met / scene 3 dancers now outside of the club by complete accident all of them with their boyfriends or at least they were holding hands with or seemed intimate (I just assume all Dancers have a significant other) but only one left me with an icky feeling .. (Not that I approached any of them ... respect their real lives after all :) )

Funny I never wear a tie or dress pants and I have approached girls in the past i never was treated like that. Maybe just unlucky

Absolutely but it is super hard at times to shake your head... As much as some of us think we are in control of our selves it,can soon spiral out,if control ;) Looking back over the last 6 months, I went from rarely going to clubs. To once a month... To twice a week to once a day.. This last week I went 6 times in 4 days ... When I look back at the start I would see a pretty girl maybe take her for a couple,of dances rarely the same one...now i only go see one girl.. And though I'm a pretty practical guy who knows that nothing will ever happen you can't help but become attached... I'll stick with my suggestion step away for a bit.. It can be a slippery slope

I haven't and sadly I'm at the place a whole lot ... I generally ask the bartender if the girl I was looking for was in... sometimes a dancer will ask if your looking for someone in particular...you could always mention it then.

I think that would be awesome ... sometimes there is a girl at the Fax who wears elegant gowns and she really stands out among the other ladies in a good way. Plus it may help keep the ladies warmer during these horribly cold times :P

Though I'm horrible because I'm pretty much right where you are (Minus the changing to SP / MP) I think its important to remember what happens in the club is business 100%, but at the same time I hope that friendships can exist between client / dancer for sure ... there is nothing worse than seeing the dancer outside of the club and getting a look of disgust etc... The hard part is making sure you keep your emotions in check remembering she has to make her money, and you have needs to be met too. So don't feel guilty about it, if your still having fun going to see her keep going! Maybe its time for a change of scenery for while go to different bars and stay away for a bit and let the emotions cool down so you can look at the situation with a clearer vision.

Though I've never looked to use a provider, my worry is after the first the play time would be over...if I wanted to visit a provider, I'd want to play for the full duration...maybe I get another shot on goal maybe I don't that wouldn't be her fault. And any guy who blames a woman for him being able to have multiple goals within a time frame is pretty lame... I'm sure it happens though.

Good to know!